---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/24/16: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:58 PM - Test (Rick Schreiber) 2. 02:10 PM - Re: Test (James Haklin) 3. 02:24 PM - Re: Test (Steven Dortch) 4. 02:28 PM - Re: Test (Rick Schreiber) 5. 02:46 PM - Corvair Piet performance report (Rick Schreiber) 6. 03:27 PM - Re: Test (aerocarjake) 7. 05:14 PM - Re: Re: Test (Charles N. Campbell) 8. 05:55 PM - moving day, again. (nightmare) 9. 07:38 PM - Re: Corvair Piet performance report (taildrags) 10. 07:54 PM - Re: moving day, again. (taildrags) 11. 08:39 PM - Re: Re: Corvair Piet performance report (Steven Dortch) 12. 09:00 PM - Re: moving day, again. (nightmare) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:58:06 PM PST US From: Rick Schreiber Subject: Pietenpol-List: Test just testing ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:18 PM PST US From: James Haklin Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Test For what it's worth Rick, I got your test message. Jim H On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Rick Schreiber wrote: > lmforge@earthlink.net> > > just testing > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:24:43 PM PST US From: Steven Dortch Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Test You failed due to no capitalization an no punctuation! On Sep 24, 2016 3:59 PM, "Rick Schreiber" wrote: > lmforge@earthlink.net> > > just testing > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:28:37 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Test From: Rick Schreiber On 9/24/2016 4:09 PM, James Haklin wrote: > For what it's worth Rick, I got your test message. > Jim H > > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Rick Schreiber > wrote: > > > > > just testing > > > > > > Thanks Jim. I had sent a prior email about my Piet which appears to not have gone through. I will re-send it. Just to fill you in. I have flown the Piet from the front with Leigh Smith guiding me from the rear. Last Monday I started flying from the rear with Leigh in the front. Yesterday I started flying it by myself. The plane performs flawlessly as does the engine. I probably have 6+ flight hours now without a hiccup. The engine purrs along with amazing power. My empty weight was 750 pounds. With Leigh Smith at 216, me at 176 and 72 # of fuel (12 gal) we were at 1,214 # gross. Pretty hefty for a Piet. I had arbitrarly set my gross at 1200#. It just that it worked out to be 1200# with me plus normal fuel and a 200# passenger. I thought I neverwould get a passenger more than 200 in the front.....Wrong! Even on an 80 deg. day we climed out at 400 ft/min at 60 mph at over gross. Hope all is well with you and Dee. I will get the minutes to you soon. As usual Dave Boast ran the meeting and as usual it was a joke. About all that can be said is we had a meeting, 15 people showed up. I gave a treasurer's report and thats it. Regards, Rick ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:46:39 PM PST US From: Rick Schreiber Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Piet performance report The list has been slow lately and I haven't posted much for a while so I thought I would report in. After getting my taiwheel endorsement, I was able to start flying NX48RS. I had the Piet ferried from my home airport - Porter Co. Regional (VPZ) with lots of traffic and long hard surface runways, to Starke Co. (OXI) with little traffic and both grass and hard surface. I have been flying mostly off the grass and having lots of fun. I have a number of hours on the Piet and a few dozen landings. So far all is good with the engine and the plane. For those that don't know or remember here are the specs on the engine and plane. * I have a standard 2700 cc Corvair engine for power * 68" x 34 pitch cloudcars prop (same prop that Kevin Purtee uses)|| * 18 gal nose tank * Straight axle Jenny style gear * empty weight a hefty 758 # Here are some performance specs.... * WOT on climb out 2675 rpm * climb out speed 60 mph * 700 ft / min on climb out with OAT at 71 deg. I weigh 175# but my instructor also flew 478RS and saw the same climb rate, he weighs 216#. Kevin reported the same climb with his corvair powered piet. * WOT max rpm in level flight 2800 rpm which yields 85-90 mph (maybe even 95) * 2700 rpm = about 75 mph * 2400 rpm = around 70 mph ( I think) * fuel burn 5 gph, using 100LL avgas hot oil pressure at cruise is about 40#. Initially the oil temperature was steady at about 190 degrees, but has now dropped to 180. This is probably due to the engine starting to break in. Yesterday I managed to get in a little sightseeing rather than just landing practice. Got the Piet up to 2500 AGL to see how it would feel. No issues with feeling frail in such a craft, though I admit its more fun to fly down low. So far I am really happy with the Piet and the engine. I plan on flying again this afternoon and tomorrow and the next day......... No surprises in flying other than the amount of left rudder needed to counter P factor on takeoff. Once the throttle is reduced to cruise, the rudder is pretty much neutral. I *did not* offset the vertical stab. I do have to hold some constant back pressure on the stick. I have checked the elevators and the horizontal stab and all is good. I may just use a bungee to put in the required back pressure, either on the stick itself or on the walking beam. Rick Schreiber NX478RS Porter Co. Regional KVPZ Valparaiso, IN ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:27:13 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Test From: "aerocarjake" If I knew there was going to be a test I would have studied...! -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460703#460703 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:42 PM PST US From: "Charles N. Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Test Ha! On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 6:26 PM, aerocarjake wrote: > > > > If I knew there was going to be a test I would have studied...! > > -------- > Jake Schultz - curator, > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460703#460703 > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:34 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: moving day, again. From: "nightmare" 3rd move in 3 years. ugh. too long of a story. the one good thing is that I get to see "superpiet" in the light of day. my smart phone pics while in the garage are not very good. landing gear is pretty much done but had to remove it to fit in the trailer. sorry to my pietvair brothers. was having problems posting pics from my phone. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460706#460706 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/20160924_123022_363.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/20160924_122957_146.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/20160924_122133_967.jpg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:30 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair Piet performance report From: "taildrags" Rick; that's great performance for a Piet. And I agree about how much more enjoyable it is flying these airplanes off of grass or dirt than hard surface. I really like the paint job... having been based just a short hop from Kelly Field for nine years, and having always had Air Force family in and around Kelly, is even more reason to like your paint scheme. Now you've just got to try an early morning strafing run on an enemy supply train trying to run for the border ;o) -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460708#460708 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:54:15 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: moving day, again. From: "taildrags" Wow. Wow-! Now that's a one-of-a-kind! Enclosed cockpit, canopy... nice! What do you plan to power it with? A Warner Scarab radial? -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460709#460709 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:36 PM PST US From: Steven Dortch Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair Piet performance report Ditto on the military paint job. I hope to be flying mine in the next 3 months or so. In that vein, tonight I am staying at a friend's house on Fort Sam Houston about a quarter mile from where Lieutenant Benjamin Foulous conducted the first US Army flights in a Wright biplane on March 2nd 1910. This is considered the beginning of US military aviation. The parade grounds here are in the shape of a reverse L. While they are currently used as physical fitness fields, they were laid out as runways. Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:00:32 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: moving day, again. From: "nightmare" thanks Oscar. the little top piece is removable also. it will be powered by six cylinders of fury! (corvair) . and I wont be offended if im told its not a pietenpol. not sure myself. but definitely has piet dna. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460711#460711 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.