---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 12/11/16: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:32 AM - Re: Re: Sky Scout (Comcast) 2. 06:37 AM - Re: Sky Scout (tools) 3. 11:31 AM - Re: Re: Sky Scout ((null) raykrause) 4. 07:44 PM - Re: Re: Sky Scout (Clif Dawson) 5. 08:51 PM - Re: Re: Sky Scout (Steven Dortch) 6. 08:56 PM - Re: Re: Sky Scout ((null) raykrause) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:00 AM PST US From: Comcast <4rcsimmons@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sky Scout I'm just thinking outside the box. I'm a Piet wanna be. FWI, if engine performance is what is desired with the prop you have, adding weight by changing props would alter 2 items weight on the nose and thrust performance. (??) Could you trial the balance concern with weights opposed to the actual prop? Just a thought! - Rich ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:19 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sky Scout From: "tools" My a65 was super anemic with a sensenich 72x42 wood prop, which is generally good for most folks. Only turned 1900 static. Put a metal sensenich 72x44 and it flies like a totally different, and better, plane. Turns 2350 static. Props and engines seem to be very individual... But that's what worked for me. Tools Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=463835#463835 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:31:16 AM PST US From: "(null) raykrause" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sky Scout Thanks for the thoughts. I'm in the process of adding and moving weights aro und. I have some barbel weights with a hole that actually fits over the shaf t that sticks through the propeller. If I get time, I will do that this afte rnoon. I like the advise to add weight ti the firewall rather than change pr ops. I knew I would be close on the W/B, as calculated before covering the plane. So the wing is slanted back 5.5". But on the Scout, that makes the leading edge about even with the firewall! So adding weight to the firewall may no t do much good. Adding weight to the front of the engine (the prop) would r eally help. This is an interesting problem! Maybe I'm not doing this correc tly? Ray Sent from my iPad > On Dec 11, 2016, at 6:27 AM, Comcast <4rcsimmons@comcast.net> wrote: > > > I'm just thinking outside the box. > > I'm a Piet wanna be. > > FWI, if engine performance is what is desired with the prop you have, addi ng weight by changing props would alter 2 items weight on the nose and thrus t performance. (??) > > Could you trial the balance concern with weights opposed to the actual pro p? > > Just a thought! > > - Rich > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:39 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sky Scout Just make one of those round "bullet" spinners from heavy metal and bolt it to your prop hub. Clif I will beg you for advice, your reply will be concise, and I will listen very nicely and then go out and do exactly what I want. :-) So adding weight to the firewall may not do much good. Adding weight to the front of the engine (the prop) would really help. This is an interesting problem! Maybe I'm not doing this correctly? Ray -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:21 PM PST US From: Steven Dortch Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sky Scout Add lightness tot he rear of the plane. Make sure you have used the shortest screws you can in the tail section. Take the extra links off of your chains on the tailwheel. It will take pounds up front to make up for ounces back near the tail. What about personal weight loss? (That is what I need to do. 20 pounds would be the easiet!) Take out the rear seat pads. move any radios forward and use a remote? Can you: add a starter? Alternator? Mount a Faux machinegun up front? mount a battery as far forward as possible. Use more and heavier weight oil? Use a spinner that looks like a machinegun? make the Cowling as fancy and heavier as you want? Add a cockpit heat system to the exhaust? Or even make a place to add lead weights to the front of the motor or motor mounts. This sounds like a great excuse to put on a bigger engine with all the geegaws. As a light infantryman, we carried everything on our back. We always threw the joker out of the deck. We also cut the cards in half. I cut my sleeping pat down to 10 inches wide and 4 ft long. Just enough to be under my body and nothing else. If we could snuggle and it was not too cold we did not take a sleeping bag, but carried a very light poncho liner. My point is make sure you SAFELY add lightness to the rear as much as possible before you put weight up front. Blue Skies, Steve D. On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Clif Dawson wrote: > Just make one of those round "bullet" spinners from heavy metal > and bolt it to your prop hub. > > Clif > I will beg you for advice, your reply will be concise, and I will listen > very nicely > and then go out and do exactly what I want. :-) > > > So adding weight to the firewall may not do much good. Adding weight to > the front of the engine (the prop) would really help. This is an > interesting problem! Maybe I'm not doing this correctly? > > Ray > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------------- > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:56:37 PM PST US From: "(null) raykrause" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sky Scout Cliff, Thanks for the suggestion. I'm looking into the spinner idea as I have a good friend who loves to make such things! I did some weighing today that should give me a good idea on what weight spinners might work. I will keep you updated. Thanks, Ray Sent from my iPad > On Dec 11, 2016, at 7:43 PM, Clif Dawson wrote: > > Just make one of those round "bullet" spinners from heavy metal > and bolt it to your prop hub. > > Clif > I will beg you for advice, your reply will be concise, and I will listen very nicely > and then go out and do exactly what I want. :-) > > > > > So adding weight to the firewall may not do much good. Adding weight to the front of the engine (the prop) would really help. This is an interesting problem! Maybe I'm not doing this correctly? > > Ray > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.