Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 02/22/17


Total Messages Posted: 18



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:10 AM - Re: Re: FB (M W Stanley)
     2. 05:46 AM - BPA ressurection (Douwe Blumberg)
     3. 07:02 AM - Re: BPA ressurection (Steven Dortch)
     4. 07:18 AM - Re: Re: FB (Brian Jardine)
     5. 07:29 AM - Re: Re: FB (Steven Dortch)
     6. 07:41 AM - Re: BPA ressurection (John Cox)
     7. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: FB (M W Stanley)
     8. 08:51 AM - Re: Re: FB ((null) raykrause)
     9. 09:03 AM - Riblett to Spar Fit (Brent Wilson)
    10. 10:04 AM - Re: BPA ressurection (tools)
    11. 10:23 AM - Riblett to Spar Fit (Brent Wilson)
    12. 12:16 PM - Re: Riblett to Spar Fit (John Fay)
    13. 03:43 PM - Re: BPA ressurection (Doug Bowman)
    14. 04:09 PM - Re: Riblett to Spar Fit (jarheadpilot82)
    15. 04:25 PM - Corvair Engine Project For Sale on Barnstormers (jarheadpilot82)
    16. 05:09 PM - Ragwing Ultra-Piet (cdlwingnut)
    17. 06:36 PM - Re: Riblett to Spar Fit (Brent Wilson)
    18. 06:44 PM - Re: BPA ressurection (pweeden)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:10:46 AM PST US
    From: "M W Stanley" <mmrally@nifty.com>
    Subject: Re: FB
    Hi Pat, It sounds like a good idea to me. I am on both this and the FB Piet pages. I say if it helps people out, then it's a good idea. Best of luck with it! -------------------------------------------------- From: "pweeden" <pweeden@weedengraphics.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:57 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: FB > <pweeden@weedengraphics.com> > > Hi All, > > Picking up the discussion here about this list versus the Facebook > group... > > A group of us at Brodhead Airport have agreed to take over responsibility > of the Brodhead Pietenpol Association, beginning this week. As part of > that handover, we are creating a new BPA website and I would like to know > people's thoughts on having a Builder's Forum there. It would be an > updated version of this list's software and I have asked permission from > Matronics to use the entirety of this list's content in an archive on our > site, so it is searchable. > > You can check it out here: > http://www.pietenpols.org > ...Click on Builder's Forum. > > Pat Weeden > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466472#466472 > > >


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    Time: 05:46:45 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe@douwestudios.com>
    Subject: BPA ressurection
    GREAT NEWS PAT!! Are you planning on continuing the newsletter or is that being replaced with the new website? For some time I've been asking if I could help with the newsletter, or something to get the BPA resurrected and I'm SO glad you guys have been able to step in and help. Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help with the newsletter, or rounding up articles, etc for the new site and the newsletter. I would love to see a well-done website that has a builder's section, a section with lots of pictures of piets and flying/building stories. Do you think there's any chance of getting permission from Grant to use some old Buckeye Pietenpol Association content? Nobody's had luck so far, but there's some treasures there. Douwe


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    Time: 07:02:48 AM PST US
    From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: BPA ressurection
    Pat you asked for input. I like the pretty pictures and short updates on the facebook page. I like the in depth discussions that take place on the Matronics page. I like the good long articles that are in the BPA newsletter. I like the ads that are in the BPA newsletter. I like opening our matronics emails and seeing subjects I did not ask for that I needed to know about (is that a clumbsy sentence or what? the search function on Matronics I like the feel of the BPA in my hand. OK I can give that up. Thinks I don't like Silly fights over things that don't matter. the shortness of facebook posts Since you are doing the work I will let you alone. Blue Skies, Steve Dortch on year 3 of a 6 month restoration of a Pietengrega. On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Douwe Blumberg <douwe@douwestudios.com> wrote: > GREAT NEWS PAT!! > > > Are you planning on continuing the newsletter or is that being replaced > with the new website? > > > For some time I=99ve been asking if I could help with the newslette r, or > something to get the BPA resurrected and I=99m SO glad you guys hav e been > able to step in and help. > > > Please let me know if there=99s anything I can do to help with the > newsletter, or rounding up articles, etc for the new site and the > newsletter. > > > I would love to see a well-done website that has a builder=99s sect ion, a > section with lots of pictures of piets and flying/building stories. > > > Do you think there=99s any chance of getting permission from Grant to use > some old Buckeye Pietenpol Association content? Nobody=99s had luc k so far, > but there=99s some treasures there. > > > Douwe > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D


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    Time: 07:18:42 AM PST US
    From: Brian Jardine <Brian.Jardine@Plexus.com>
    Subject: Re: FB
    I support both FB and the Matronics Piet forums, I get benefits from both. Brian Meridian, ID -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Boatright, Jeffrey Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 6:34 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: FB --> <jboatri@emory.edu> Hey Pat, I am all for it. Im not anti-FB, but I its not my first choice for this type of activity. Thank you for taking the lead on this and thanks for asking, Jeff -- Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO Professor of Ophthalmology Emory University School of Medicine Core Director & Research Biologist Atlanta VAMC Center for Visual & Neurocognitive Rehabilitation -----Original Message----- From: <owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of pweeden <pweeden@weedengraphics.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: FB Hi All, Picking up the discussion here about this list versus the Facebook group... A group of us at Brodhead Airport have agreed to take over responsibility of the Brodhead Pietenpol Association, beginning this week. As part of that handover, we are creating a new BPA website and I would like to know people's thoughts on having a Builder's Forum there. It would be an updated version of this list's software and I have asked permission from Matronics to use the entirety of this list's content in an archive on our site, so it is searchable. You can check it out here: http://www.pietenpols.org ...Click on Builder's Forum. Pat Weeden Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466472#466472 ________________________________ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments).


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    Time: 07:29:39 AM PST US
    From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: FB
    Perhaps any site should include prominent links to FB and matronics! I support what y'all are trying to do. On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Brian Jardine <Brian.Jardine@plexus.com> wrote: > Brian.Jardine@plexus.com> > > I support both FB and the Matronics Piet forums, I get benefits from both . > > Brian > Meridian, ID > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Boatright, Jeffre y > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 6:34 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: FB > > --> <jboatri@emory.edu> > > Hey Pat, > > I am all for it. I=99m not anti-FB, but I it=99s not my first choice for this > type of activity. > > Thank you for taking the lead on this and thanks for asking, > > Jeff > > -- > Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO > Professor of Ophthalmology > Emory University School of Medicine > Core Director & Research Biologist > Atlanta VAMC Center for Visual & Neurocognitive Rehabilitation > > > -----Original Message----- > From: <owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of pweeden < > pweeden@weedengraphics.com> > Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 7:57 PM > To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: FB > > pweeden@weedengraphics.com> > > Hi All, > > Picking up the discussion here about this list versus the Facebook > group... > > A group of us at Brodhead Airport have agreed to take over > responsibility of the Brodhead Pietenpol Association, beginning this week . > As part of that handover, we are creating a new BPA website and I would > like to know people's thoughts on having a Builder's Forum there. It woul d > be an updated version of this list's software and I have asked permission > from Matronics to use the entirety of this list's content in an archive o n > our site, so it is searchable. > > You can check it out here: > http://www.pietenpols.org > ...Click on Builder's Forum. > > Pat Weeden > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466472#466472 > > > ________________________________ > > This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of th e > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, > you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying o f > this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. > > If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by > reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message > (including attachments). > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D


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    Time: 07:41:24 AM PST US
    From: John Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: BPA ressurection
    Steve said it beautifully and completely. Ditto! John Cox On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com> wrote: > Pat you asked for input. > I like the pretty pictures and short updates on the facebook page. > I like the in depth discussions that take place on the Matronics page. > I like the good long articles that are in the BPA newsletter. > I like the ads that are in the BPA newsletter. > I like opening our matronics emails and seeing subjects I did not ask for > that I needed to know about (is that a clumbsy sentence or what? > the search function on Matronics > I like the feel of the BPA in my hand. OK I can give that up. > > Thinks I don't like > Silly fights over things that don't matter. > the shortness of facebook posts > > Since you are doing the work I will let you alone. > > Blue Skies, > Steve Dortch > on year 3 of a 6 month restoration of a Pietengrega. > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Douwe Blumberg <douwe@douwestudios.com> > wrote: > >> GREAT NEWS PAT!! >> >> >> >> Are you planning on continuing the newsletter or is that being replaced >> with the new website? >> >> >> >> For some time I=99ve been asking if I could help with the newslett er, or >> something to get the BPA resurrected and I=99m SO glad you guys ha ve been >> able to step in and help. >> >> >> >> Please let me know if there=99s anything I can do to help with the >> newsletter, or rounding up articles, etc for the new site and the >> newsletter. >> >> >> >> I would love to see a well-done website that has a builder=99s sec tion, a >> section with lots of pictures of piets and flying/building stories. >> >> >> >> Do you think there=99s any chance of getting permission from Grant to use >> some old Buckeye Pietenpol Association content? Nobody=99s had lu ck so far, >> but there=99s some treasures there. >> >> >> >> Douwe >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D >


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    Time: 08:08:03 AM PST US
    From: "M W Stanley" <mmrally@nifty.com>
    Subject: Re: FB
    Hi Pat, I think Steve's idea of having prominent links to both sites is a good idea, after all, we all like the same plane. Both FB and Matronics have their pro's and cons, however, I think that in this day and age, the FB page reaches allot more people around the world, spreading the good word about Piet's, which has to be a good thing right? As for me, I like the idea of utilizing all of the information, pics etc that are available on both sites. I do however really like the archives list on Matronics, that is the one thing that FB lacks. If the new BPA site can have a mix of both, that would be very good. Thanks Mark Stanley Japan From: Steven Dortch Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:29 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: FB Perhaps any site should include prominent links to FB and matronics! I support what y'all are trying to do. On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Brian Jardine <Brian.Jardine@plexus.com> wrote: <Brian.Jardine@plexus.com> I support both FB and the Matronics Piet forums, I get benefits from both. Brian Meridian, ID -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Boatright, Jeffrey Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 6:34 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: FB --> <jboatri@emory.edu> Hey Pat, I am all for it. I=99m not anti-FB, but I it=99s not my first choice for this type of activity. Thank you for taking the lead on this and thanks for asking, Jeff -- Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO Professor of Ophthalmology Emory University School of Medicine Core Director & Research Biologist Atlanta VAMC Center for Visual & Neurocognitive Rehabilitation -----Original Message----- From: <owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of pweeden <pweeden@weedengraphics.com> <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 7:57 PM To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: FB <pweeden@weedengraphics.com> Hi All, Picking up the discussion here about this list versus the Facebook group... A group of us at Brodhead Airport have agreed to take over responsibility of the Brodhead Pietenpol Association, beginning this week. As part of that handover, we are creating a new BPA website and I would like to know people's thoughts on having a Builder's Forum there. It would be an updated version of this list's software and I have asked permission from Matronics to use the entirety of this list's content in an archive on our site, so it is searchable. You can check it out here: http://www.pietenpols.org ...Click on Builder's Forum. Pat Weeden Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466472#466472 ________________________________ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). = br> enpol-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Blue Skies, Steve D


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    Time: 08:51:06 AM PST US
    From: "(null) raykrause" <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: FB
    I'm all for this! Especially including the BPA newsletter. It has been frust rating because I've subscribed, but never received the letter. Also, FB is t oo difficult, too limited and subjects me to too many unwanted interruption s/contacts/ ads. Thanks for doing this, Ray Krause Building SkyScout Sent from my iPad > On Feb 22, 2017, at 8:07 AM, M W Stanley <mmrally@nifty.com> wrote: > > Hi Pat, > > I think Steve's idea of having prominent links to both sites is a good ide a, after all, we all like the same plane. > > Both FB and Matronics have their pro's and cons, however, I think that in t his day and age, the FB page reaches allot more people around the world, spr eading the good word about Piet's, which has to be a good thing right? > > As for me, I like the idea of utilizing all of the information, pics etc t hat are available on both sites. > I do however really like the archives list on Matronics, that is the one t hing that FB lacks. > If the new BPA site can have a mix of both, that would be very good. > > Thanks > Mark Stanley > Japan > > > From: Steven Dortch > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:29 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: FB > > Perhaps any site should include prominent links to FB and matronics! > > I support what y'all are trying to do. > > >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Brian Jardine <Brian.Jardine@plexus.com> wrote: .com> >> >> I support both FB and the Matronics Piet forums, I get benefits from both . >> >> Brian >> Meridian, ID >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-l ist-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Boatright, Jeffrey >> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 6:34 PM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: FB >> >> --> <jboatri@emory.edu> >> >> Hey Pat, >> >> I am all for it. I=99m not anti-FB, but I it=99s not my first choice for this type of activity. >> >> Thank you for taking the lead on this and thanks for asking, >> >> Jeff >> >> -- >> Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO >> Professor of Ophthalmology >> Emory University School of Medicine >> Core Director & Research Biologist >> Atlanta VAMC Center for Visual & Neurocognitive Rehabilitation >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: <owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of pweeden <p weeden@weedengraphics.com> >> Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 7:57 PM >> To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: FB >> cs.com> >> >> Hi All, >> >> Picking up the discussion here about this list versus the Facebook group... >> >> A group of us at Brodhead Airport have agreed to take over responsibi lity of the Brodhead Pietenpol Association, beginning this week. As part of t hat handover, we are creating a new BPA website and I would like to know peo ple's thoughts on having a Builder's Forum there. It would be an updated ver sion of this list's software and I have asked permission from Matronics to u se the entirety of this list's content in an archive on our site, so it is s earchable. >> >> You can check it out here: >> http://www.pietenpols.org >> ...Click on Builder's Forum. >> >> Pat Weeden >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466472#466472 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of th e intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged informat ion. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are he reby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this messag e (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. >> >> If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by r eply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (includin g attachments). >> >> >> >> >> >> ========================= = >> br> enpol-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> ========================= >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n >> ========================= >> >> >> > > > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D


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    Time: 09:03:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Riblett to Spar Fit
    From: "Brent Wilson" <Wyowilsons@gmail.com>
    Guys, I'm not building them yet, but I would like to know what the procedure is to fitting a standard dimension spar to a 612 Riblett design. Laminate a strip the full length of the spar to fill 1/2" or so gap? Just use a small spacer block on each rib? Should the spacer be on the top or the bottom? Any advice would be great. Thanks, Brent Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466501#466501


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    Time: 10:04:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: BPA ressurection
    From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
    I think this is great news! And very appropriate to have it based in Brodhead. I, like most, enjoy the traditional bulletin board format. However, I can't stand the matronics software. It's just antiquated and not moderated. Modern bulletin board software will enhance what folks like about matronics about a hundred fold. And then appoint some good reliable moderators, or do it in house. Search functions are better. Different boards for different topics. Easy picture posting. Mike Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466502#466502


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    Time: 10:23:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Riblett to Spar Fit
    From: "Brent Wilson" <Wyowilsons@gmail.com>
    Guys, I'm not building them yet, but I would like to know what the procedure is to fitting a standard dimension spar to a 612 Riblett design. Laminate a strip the full length of the spar to fill 1/2" or so gap? Just use a small spacer block on each rib? Should the spacer be on the top or the bottom? Any advice would be great. Thanks, Brent Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466503#466503


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    Time: 12:16:07 PM PST US
    From: John Fay <jfay1950@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Riblett to Spar Fit
    Brent, Have you already built the spars. If not, I would make the spars taller, which would increase their strength. I do not have the engineering expertise to compute how much. John Fay in Peoria On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Brent Wilson <Wyowilsons@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Guys, > I'm not building them yet, but I would like to know what the procedure is > to fitting a standard dimension spar to a 612 Riblett design. Laminate a > strip the full length of the spar to fill 1/2" or so gap? Just use a small > spacer block on each rib? Should the spacer be on the top or the bottom? > Any advice would be great. > Thanks, > Brent > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466501#466501 > >


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    Time: 03:43:34 PM PST US
    From: Doug Bowman <airbowman48@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: BPA ressurection
    I have been lurking and building -trying to get information from the BPA As sn or whatever. I look on whatever is=C2-happening at Brodhead as a positve thing and kno w little but what I have read on matrons, FB and other sites. Would love for there to be ONE site where information would be archived, ea sy to access and free of the random BS> Questions:=C2- =C2- 1. Is there going to be a Brodhead Fly-in prior to AirVenture? =C2- =C2- 2. How do I pay up for the services that the BPA =C2-promis ed and you folks seem to want to provide? Doug B. On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:11 AM, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortc h@gmail.com> wrote: Pat you asked for input. I like the pretty pictures and short updates on the facebook page. I like the in depth discussions that take place on the Matronics page. I like the good long articles that are in the BPA newsletter. I like the ads that are in the BPA newsletter. I like opening our matronics emails and seeing subjects I did not ask for t hat I needed to know about (is that a clumbsy sentence or what? the search function on Matronics I like the feel of the BPA in my hand. OK I can give that up. Thinks I don't like Silly fights over=C2- things that don't matter. the shortness of facebook posts Since you are doing the work I will let you alone. Blue Skies, Steve Dortch on year 3 of a 6 month restoration of a Pietengrega. On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Douwe Blumberg <douwe@douwestudios.com> wr ote: GREAT NEWS PAT!!=C2-Are you planning on continuing the newsletter or is t hat being replaced with the new website?=C2-For some time I=99ve be en asking if I could help with the newsletter, or something to get the BPA resurrected and I=99m SO glad you guys have been able to step in and help.=C2-Please let me know if there=99s anything I can do to help with the newsletter, or rounding up articles, etc for the new site and the newsletter.=C2-I would love to see a well-done website that has a builder =99s section, a section with lots of pictures of piets and flying/bui lding stories.=C2-Do you think there=99s any chance of getting perm ission from Grant to use some old Buckeye Pietenpol Association content?=C2 - Nobody=99s had luck so far, but there=99s some treasures th ere.=C2-Douwe=C2-=C2- -- Blue Skies, Steve D


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    Time: 04:09:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Riblett to Spar Fit
    From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
    Brent, I am building my Pietenpol using the Riblet 613.5 wing rib profile. It is slightly taller than even the 612, I believe. I am also using aluminum extruded spars like are used on a J3 Cub or similar aircraft with wooden ribs. The ribs are taller than the spars, but also understand this - lift is trying to push the ribs up toward the spar, not the other way around (not pushing down from above). That is why many/most people assemble the wings upside down, so that the bottom of the rib, the lower capstrip, is fully against the bottom edge of the spar when the wing is assembled. I don't think that the "spacer" is necessary for overall strength, although I did use them. I am a belt and suspenders kind of guy. I am away from home but will be back tomorrow and post a picture or two then. No I do not think that you need it the whole length of the spar. You are just adding weight by doing so. Also, I am not an engineer, but simply building your spar taller does not necessarily make it stronger. This is an extreme example, but imagine your spar being 1 inch thick X 5 inches tall. Now imagine how your spar would be if you tripled its height but left the thickness the same. I don't believe it would be 3 times stronger. It is a combination of height and thickness that makes it stronger. That is one of the reasons I used aluminum extruded spars. I don't worry about spar strength at all. As Dan Weseman half-jokingly put it, "Let's see if I get this right. You have a 9 G spar on a 2 G airplane." Works for me. P.S. Take this for all that it is worth. I am not a structural engineer, NOR did I sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466516#466516


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    Time: 04:25:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Corvair Engine Project For Sale on Barnstormers
    From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
    Builders, I received an email from a Corvair builder, Chuck Callahan, that I had met several times at Corvair Colleges. He has decided to not build any aircraft, so he has put his Corvair engine project on Barnstormers - http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_detail.php?ID=1223914 He asked that I make it known on this forum, so I am doing so. His pricing is on his spec sheet. I have no other advice but to say that I met Chuck, and he seemed like a good guy when we spoke. I hate to see anybody leave aviation, but I also would like to see another Corvair engine built, and not languish in a garage. If any of you have an interest in getting a head start on your Corvair engine, contact him via Barnstormers. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466517#466517


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    Time: 05:09:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Ragwing Ultra-Piet
    From: "cdlwingnut" <lee_chad@hotmail.com>
    though not officially a pietenpol i have decided to start on an ultra-piet ribstock ordered and on the way now to build a jig and get the clock started on the build. are there any other ragwing builders/owners here Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466521#466521


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    Time: 06:36:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Riblett to Spar Fit
    From: "Brent Wilson" <Wyowilsons@gmail.com>
    John, no I haven't built them yet, I am looking at a started project that has all of the ribs and center wing section built and the spars are "standard" size so they will have to be spaced. Terry, thank you for your comments. The spacer on the top does make sense now that you mentioned the force on the wing will come from the bottom. I am just starting down this road and will have many more questions I am sure. Thanks to both of you for your replays. Brent Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466533#466533


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    Time: 06:44:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: BPA ressurection
    From: "pweeden" <pweeden@weedengraphics.com>
    I'll try to answer as many questions as I can here. Douwe: Yes, we plan on continuing the newsletter. John Hofmann sent his last one to the printer this week and we plan to produce the quarterly newsletter after that. Hope to get two out before the Brodhead Piet fly-in in July. We welcome any and all article submissions. bpa@pietenpols.org. Steve Dortch: I agree with your comments about the printed newsletter vs. Facebook vs. Matronics. Our hope is to continue with long in-deoth articles exclusive to members in the newsletter. FB can be its own thing. We can continue with ads both in print and on the new website. I've never been a fan of the Matronics software, which is why we installed a modern forum program on the new website. I hope I can drag people away from here and move discussions over there and hopefully get permission to archive the entirety of this group on the BPA website. Then everything is in one place. Tools: See above and check out the new forum: http://www.pietenpols.org/forum Doug Bowman: --Yes, there will be a Pietenpol Reunion at Brodhead, as always, July 20-23, 2017. --I just received the current membership roster and will be sending out a letter once we figure out who is paid up and for how long. How the funding works out in the short term remains to be seen. We have a committed group at Brodhead Airport though and want this to succeed. Stay tuned! Pat Weeden Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466534#466534




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