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1. 11:10 AM - Re: Rebuilding plus questions about elevator cable tension (Lostman)
2. 12:23 PM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (cdlwingnut)
3. 12:39 PM - Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft (cdlwingnut)
4. 01:08 PM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (taildrags)
5. 01:12 PM - Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft (taildrags)
6. 02:40 PM - Re: Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft (Steven Dortch)
7. 03:07 PM - Re: Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (Jack Textor)
8. 03:17 PM - Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft (taildrags)
9. 08:14 PM - Test fit (GregA)
10. 08:41 PM - Re: Test fit (taildrags)
11. 08:59 PM - Re: Test fit (taildrags)
12. 09:19 PM - Re: Test fit (GregA)
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| Subject: | Re: Rebuilding plus questions about elevator cable tension |
I haven't posted up in a while but was able to get out to Utah last fall and get
a weeks worth of work in on the new prop. By far this is the largest prop my
dad and I have ever built. Needless to say the blank was almost 80 pounds but
is much lighter now. Since I still have a lot of finish work to do on it, I haven't
yet weighed it so have no idea what the final prop will weigh.
If anyone has ever done a copper leading edge, please let me know details. I'd
love to wrap the leading edge to give it a good durable finish and look correct
for the period.
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I own a Teenie Two, remnants of an Avid, a KR2, hang glider and paraglider as well
as my 1997 Pietenpol Air Camper. I'm also scratch building a Sonerai IIL.
As a CFII/MEI I love sharing the gift of flight with just about anyone that will
fly with me.
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| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
yes i have the real pietenpol plans as well, and the plans to the MiniMax.
I think you are right on it not being much more work to build the real piet, but
I am on a budget and the ultra-piet is easier on my budget, mostly since i have
an engine available to me for the ragwing.
a lot of the building is similar in both the pietenpol and ultra-piet. I would
love to hear from someone who has flown both. I do have a little time in a real
Pietenpol.
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| Subject: | Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft |
First, kudos for wanting to give instruction in the piet. I think it would be great
for any pilot to get time anything with the little wheel in the back where
it belongs and esp. in the piet.
as far as earning a pilot certificate in one getting a sport certificat i don't
see a problem but the private certificat requires 3 hours of flying on instruments
as well as using navigaton equipment and for the checkride you need an aircraft
capable of being flown by reference to instruments. So for the private
certificate you will probably need to use something else for part of the training
and the check ride.
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| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
If I remember correctly, Grant MacLaren has built and flown both an Air Camper
and an UltraPiet. However, he seems to have faded from the Piet scene years ago.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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| Subject: | Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft |
My Piet is perfectly capable of being flown by reference to instruments. It just
doesn't have them ;o)
Thanks for the clarification, because there are certainly aviation activities that
require properly-equipped aircraft to do.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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| Subject: | Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft |
Just a thought, wait now I am not so sure. I am glad I did not just pop
off.
I was going to suggest taking the student to a place that has a flight sim
and the required aircraft for that training and pay them for that portion
of training. I just did my instrument ticket at Tempus training in San
Marcos, Texas. Yes I have drank the koolaide and I have become a true
believer in Sim training. "Come on in boys, the water is fine!"
However, there would be a significant amount of time getting spun up on how
to fly a Cessna 172 with the G1000 glass cockpit.
To mitigate this spin up, tell your student to use the Microsoft flight sim
program on their home computer to prepare for this. This will give them the
how to on the G1000 and the Cessna 172. Or Buttonology as my instructor
told me.
Blue Skies,
Steve D.
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 2:39 PM, cdlwingnut <lee_chad@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> First, kudos for wanting to give instruction in the piet. I think it would
> be great for any pilot to get time anything with the little wheel in the
> back where it belongs and esp. in the piet.
>
> as far as earning a pilot certificate in one getting a sport certificat i
> don't see a problem but the private certificat requires 3 hours of flying
> on instruments as well as using navigaton equipment and for the checkride
> you need an aircraft capable of being flown by reference to instruments. So
> for the private certificate you will probably need to use something else
> for part of the training and the check ride.
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466676#466676
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Blue Skies,
Steve D
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| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
Grant is on Facebook...
Jack Textor
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> On Feb 26, 2017, at 3:07 PM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> If I remember correctly, Grant MacLaren has built and flown both an Air Camper
and an UltraPiet. However, he seems to have faded from the Piet scene years
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> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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| Subject: | Re: the Air Camper as a training aircraft |
Steve, I know you were just using the C-172/G1000 platform as an example, but if
someone out there in Pietropolis actually has a need to spin up on the G1000,
I have the Garmin G1000 Checkout CD (from Sporty's) here in my library and sure
am not using it. Available on loan to anyone who might need it. There is
a lot to be said for training videos and simulators because the learning is done
under far less pressure and with the ability to review things or pause things.
In the airplane, not so much ;o) The big drawback of sim time is that time
"in actual" is physically and emotionally a lot different from sim time or
even time under the Foggles.
Of course, there are sims and then there are sims. I've mentioned this before,
but I got to fly the EA-6B Prowler sim at Whidbey Island NAS and I can tell you,
the sweat on my back and hands was real because the sim is so real ;o) My
right-seater was good friend LtCol (USMC, ret) Kyle "Itchy" Rash, who flew and
instructed in the Prowler, and who served several tours in remote desert places
of the world. Although he had no controls on his side, his voice in the headset
was a tremendous help. And I never heard a peep from the two ECMO back-seaters
the whole time I flew. Maybe that's because the Prowler sim doesn't
have the back seats ;o)
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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Just joined the list. Thinking about building a Piet and would like to talk with
a few builders/owners over the next several months and look at a finished or
semi-finished airplane to see how I (and maybe the wife) would fit (would take
a ride too if offered!). I'm currently in Reno, but relocating to western
Colorado later this spring. I have built and currently fly an RV9 so willing
to fly most places in the west as needed.
Also would like some real-world input on the build time. Took me approximately
1250 hours to complete the RV, including a few non-stock modifications. I realize
that the Piet is different, but just trying to get an estimate of time commitment.
Thanks,
Greg
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Greg;
If you're ever up this way to southern Oregon, you're welcome to sit in my Piet
anytime. Over in Colorado, you'll find Ken Bickers up in the Denver/Ft Collins
area and Rick Holland, who I think is in the same area. However, when you
say 'western Colorado', you may be talking about over in Grand Junction, which
is quite a ways from there.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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Greg;
I forgot... you've got a lot more Piets closer to you in CA than to me up here
in OR. There are a couple in the Sacramento area alone! Fritz Watson, Gary Boothe,
Chris Tracy, others. And if you're still here the first weekend in June,
the West Coast Piet Fly-In is held over at Frazier Lake Airpark, by Hollister...
about 300 SM from Reno.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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Oscar,
Thanks for the offer. Medford is a pretty easy flight from Reno, and we have family
in Eugene, so I may take you up on the offer sooner or later. And/or maybe
some of the CA folks will reply. I won't make the fly-in as I spend most
of my summers in northern BC, from late May through September. We will be near
Grand Junction when moved (actually, Delta). Front Range won't be too far and
I have college buddies in Ft. Collins and Denver both, so will probably be
over there at one point or another.
Cheers,
Greg
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