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1. 05:16 AM - What would help you ... (womenfly2)
2. 05:48 AM - Re: What would help you ... (Scott Knowlton)
3. 08:08 AM - The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (jarheadpilot82)
4. 08:21 AM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (JERRY)
5. 09:18 AM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (jarheadpilot82)
6. 09:24 AM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (womenfly2)
7. 09:40 AM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (jarheadpilot82)
8. 09:51 AM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (jarheadpilot82)
9. 10:29 AM - Re: Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (JERRY)
10. 10:49 AM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (jarheadpilot82)
11. 01:50 PM - Re: What would help you ... (jarheadpilot82)
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| Subject: | What would help you ... |
As you started building your Pietenpol;
1. If you could have purchased any pre-made parts what would they have been?
2. What kit or kits of parts for the Pietenpol would you have purchased?
3. What parts or kits would you like to see made available?
Just curious,
KAP
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| Subject: | Re: What would help you ... |
I'll begin by saying that I look back with fond memories to every fitting and assembly
that I built. I remember ten years ago before beginning my build I saw
a control stick assembly and complete tailwheel all beautifully fabricated for
sale in Brodhead for $250 US each. It didn't tickle my economic homebuilder's
fancy so I left them on the shelf. When I built mine, the materials were relatively
cheap but wow it took a lot of time, trial and error, extra fitting
etc. At those prices my labour was probably worth half of a 711 clerk! I think
if I could go back in time I'd buy those two assemblies. The balance of the
metal brackets are very airplane dependant (save for the aileron Pulley brackets
on the spars and maybe the walking beam...).
My two cents.
Scott Knowlton
Burlington ON
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| Subject: | The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage |
Maybe you builders and flyers waaay smarter than me can answer this simple question
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I have the steel tube fuselage, but I built wooden tail feathers. Obviously, attaching
the upper hinges to the vertical stab is pretty straightforward. I am
at a bit of a loss as to how to attach the Kapler/Zuniga hinge (Yes, Oscar, that
is what I am calling them moving forward) to the steel tube fuselage. That
is to say, the lower-most hinge. See the photos for a further explanation of what
I am looking for -
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage |
You could just weld on a little tab the fits into the other Kapler hinge.
That's what I would do.
Jerry
Sky Classic
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Maybe you builders and flyers waaay smarter than me can answer this simple
question -
I have the steel tube fuselage, but I built wooden tail feathers. Obviously,
attaching the upper hinges to the vertical stab is pretty straightforward. I
am at a bit of a loss as to how to attach the Kapler/Zuniga hinge (Yes,
Oscar, that is what I am calling them moving forward) to the steel tube
fuselage. That is to say, the lower-most hinge. See the photos for a further
explanation of what I am looking for -
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage |
Jerry,
I should have been more clear. Attached is a drawing that might make more clear
the question. How do I attach the hinge to the tab. If I drill through the tail
post, won't I be weakening it? Do I beef up the tail post. Maybe my drawing
with the skills of a 7 year old might help explain.
Thanks for your input.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage |
Why go through all that. As was said, just weld on a tab. Radius the back to fit
the tail post ... simple.
KAP
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| Subject: | Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage |
Keri Ann,
I guess my question is really how to attach the hinge to the welded tab. Look at
my drawing below (with my awesome drawing skills). Do I extend the tab with
its own radiused tabs away from the post, weld the radiused tabs to the tail post
with just enough room to slip some lock nuts between the tail post and the
tab?
Not trying to make this complicated. I just am trying to think through this. Thanks
for everyone's input.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage |
Keri Ann,
Duh!?!? I should have looked at the bottom of your post. That makes PERFECT SENSE!
I will do it exactly like that, just not use the one hinge-half, weld on one
tab like the one you have pictured, and call it a day.
This is why I fly airplanes and others, like you, are engineers and such.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage |
Yes I would make a tab the very same size as the hinge tab. And use it as
the hinge. Then weld it to the post and it becomes the hinge.
I like it when a plan comes together.
Jerry
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Keri Ann,
Duh!?!? I should have looked at the bottom of your post. That makes PERFECT
SENSE! I will do it exactly like that, just not use the one hinge-half, weld
on one tab like the one you have pictured, and call it a day.
This is why I fly airplanes and others, like you, are engineers and such.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage |
Thanks to both of you.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: What would help you ... |
Keri Ann,
As has been said, a great number of fittings are aircraft specific due to such
things as the variety of spar thicknesses. I can think of two things that would
be relatively consistent between builders -
1. The walking beam
2. The tail brace fittings
3. The aileron cable pulley brackets that are internal to each wing
I would be interested in those parts. Not that I couldn't make them, but it would
be one less thing to fabricate.
Thanks for asking.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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