---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/20/17: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:55 AM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (Charles N. Campbell) 2. 04:03 AM - Re: Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (Charles N. Campbell) 3. 04:09 AM - Re: Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (Charles N. Campbell) 4. 04:58 AM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (tkreiner) 5. 05:53 AM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (jarheadpilot82) 6. 06:57 PM - Re: Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (JERRY) 7. 07:59 PM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (taildrags) 8. 09:13 PM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (jarheadpilot82) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:55:23 AM PST US From: "Charles N. Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage Could you braze the aluminum hinge to the steel tail post? On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:08 AM, jarheadpilot82 wrote: > jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com> > > Maybe you builders and flyers waaay smarter than me can answer this simple > question - > > I have the steel tube fuselage, but I built wooden tail feathers. > Obviously, attaching the upper hinges to the vertical stab is pretty > straightforward. I am at a bit of a loss as to how to attach the > Kapler/Zuniga hinge (Yes, Oscar, that is what I am calling them moving > forward) to the steel tube fuselage. That is to say, the lower-most hinge. > See the photos for a further explanation of what I am looking for - > > -------- > Semper Fi, > > Terry Hand > Athens, GA > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469436#469436 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/screen_shot_2017_05_19_ > at_94121_am_512.png > http://forums.matronics.com//files/screen_shot_2017_05_19_ > at_94201_am_861.png > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:03:30 AM PST US From: "Charles N. Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage Terry, adding the tab (say .090 thick steel) to the tail post would make the hinge stick out .090 and would not line up with the two upper hinges. I still think brazing would be the best answer. Chuck On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:18 PM, jarheadpilot82 wrote: > jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com> > > Jerry, > > I should have been more clear. Attached is a drawing that might make more > clear the question. How do I attach the hinge to the tab. If I drill > through the tail post, won't I be weakening it? Do I beef up the tail post. > Maybe my drawing with the skills of a 7 year old might help explain. > Thanks for your input. > > -------- > Semper Fi, > > Terry Hand > Athens, GA > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469439#469439 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_8923_106.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:06 AM PST US From: "Charles N. Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage Terry, what ever you do, don't just think of the lower hinge. Make sure the three hinges line up. C On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:18 PM, jarheadpilot82 wrote: > jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com> > > Jerry, > > I should have been more clear. Attached is a drawing that might make more > clear the question. How do I attach the hinge to the tab. If I drill > through the tail post, won't I be weakening it? Do I beef up the tail post. > Maybe my drawing with the skills of a 7 year old might help explain. > Thanks for your input. > > -------- > Semper Fi, > > Terry Hand > Athens, GA > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469439#469439 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_8923_106.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:58:38 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage From: "tkreiner" Terry, I agree with everyone else, you need to weld A tab to your stab. That said I'm not near a computer and I can't send you a good drawing file but if you will shoot me the diameter of the tubing, I'll model it up in the solid Works and send you both an isometric and a PDF of what the 1930s style tab would look like. Tom -------- Tom Kreiner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469460#469460 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:59 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage From: "jarheadpilot82" Tom, I am not quite there yet, but I will contact you in the near future. Thanks for the offer. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469461#469461 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:48 PM PST US From: "JERRY" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage I have attached a drawing of what I was talking about. Makes it all easy. Jerry Sky Classic From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles N. Campbell Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 6:03 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fu selage Terry, adding the tab (say .090 thick steel) to the tail post would make th e hinge stick out .090 and would not line up with the two upper hinges. I still think brazing would be the best answer. Chuck On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:18 PM, jarheadpilot82 > wrote: ail.com > Jerry, I should have been more clear. Attached is a drawing that might make more c lear the question. How do I attach the hinge to the tab. If I drill through the tail post, won't I be weakening it? Do I beef up the tail post. Maybe my drawing with the skills of a 7 year old might help explain. Thanks for your input. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469439#469439 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_8923_106.jpg br> enpol-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?Pietenpol-List FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:41 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage From: "taildrags" Terry; I knew you were building a steel tube fuselage but I sent out the full set anyway so you'd have an extra casting to practice on Keri-Ann and the others nailed it. A tab it is! I think if it were me, I would build the vertical stab and rudder and install the top two aluminum hinge pairs plus the rudder half of the lower one, then temporarily install them and drop a piece of 3/16" rod down through all the hinges to determine where your weld tab needs to be. But you've already figured that out, I'm sure. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469472#469472 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:26 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage From: "jarheadpilot82" Oscar, That is pretty much how I envisioned doing that part of the build. So thanks for validating my plan of attack. And I can't wait to prep the hinges. They are going to look great! Thanks for keeping the Kapler/Zuniga hinges available. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469473#469473 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.