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1. 08:21 AM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (tkreiner)
2. 08:38 AM - Prop cover plate (Rick Schreiber)
3. 08:54 AM - Re: tail hinges (taildrags)
4. 12:30 PM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (aerocarjake)
5. 12:46 PM - Re: Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (JERRY)
6. 01:36 PM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (wheelharp)
7. 03:50 PM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (aerocarjake)
8. 05:36 PM - OT father of jeepenpol (Steven Dortch)
9. 05:38 PM - OT father of Jeep (Steven Dortch)
10. 05:51 PM - Re: OT father of Jeep (Boatright, Jeffrey)
11. 06:07 PM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (jarheadpilot82)
12. 07:20 PM - Re: OT father of Jeep (Steven Dortch)
13. 08:06 PM - Re: Prop cover plate (taildrags)
14. 08:08 PM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (taildrags)
15. 08:18 PM - Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage (aerocarjake)
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| Subject: | Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage |
Terry,
Since I haven't heard back regarding tube diameters, I thought I'd just post this
pic so you may design your own hinges.
As a Design Engineer, I'd use one of these at the top and one at the bottom with
the curved portion of the tab pointing opposite each other. (The center hinge
may be oriented in either direction...) That way, the rudder will be confined
vertically (axially along rearmost vertical stabilizer tube).
>From what I can tell, this part is typically an assembly using a circular section
welded to the hinge pin tab. In order to make that as an assembly, the rounded
piece is to carry any axial load. This prevents welds from shear loads.
Hope this helps.
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Tom Kreiner
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| Subject: | Prop cover plate |
I'm thinking about having a number of prop cover plates made with an acid etched
design on the surface. This is just a thin cover plate meant to be used over
a standard steel or aluminum prop plate. The diameter will be around 6" and made
for a SAE-1 bolt pattern as used on a corvair prop hub. I need to run at least
25 of these to make it worthwhile. The cost is about $10 each. If there is
enough interest I will have these made. Just send me a pm at lmforge at earthlink.net
if interested. The attached picture is a paper print of the graphic
taped to the front of my Piet/corvair. The plate will be marked for the prop bolt
holes but will not be drilled or cut out. I want to get these done before
Brodhead so I'll need to hear from those interested soon.
Rick Schreiber
NX478RS
Valparaiso, IN
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Vincent; I also forgot to mention that if it were me, I would use single-ear nutplates
for the hinge mounting screws. Less weight. If you epoxy them in place,
they should be secure without having to mount with two screws. Melt some
candle wax into the threaded part and the epoxy won't stick to the threads and
can be cleared out after it's set. However, if you feel better with two-ear
nutplates, carry on ;o)
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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| Subject: | Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage |
Hello good Piet-ple,
Been out of touch for a while yet still moving forward nicely on my project.
Terry, here is a photo of my tailpost hinge prior to welding. I can't find a good
photo of that specific area after welding...?!?!? The three rudder hinges
line up real well yet you have to be very careful to always mount the horizontal
stabilizer with the same number of washers/shims so the three rudder hinges
are spaced properly.
I've been working on my center section for the past many months. There are some
details that are taking more time than normal but "anything worth doing is worth
over-doing...!!!!"
Have fun with the adventure....!
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage |
Yes that is exactly what I was saying. That is the perfect way to do it.
Jerry
Sky Classic
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Hello good Piet-ple,
Been out of touch for a while yet still moving forward nicely on my project.
Terry, here is a photo of my tailpost hinge prior to welding. I can't find a
good photo of that specific area after welding...?!?!? The three rudder
hinges line up real well yet you have to be very careful to always mount the
horizontal stabilizer with the same number of washers/shims so the three
rudder hinges are spaced properly.
I've been working on my center section for the past many months. There are
some details that are taking more time than normal but "anything worth doing
is worth over-doing...!!!!"
Have fun with the adventure....!
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage |
Somewhat on the same subject...since the location of this hinge half is done pre-covering,
does the thickness of covering on fuselage and horizontal and vertical
stab add enough thickness to make alignment off? In other words, does any
allowance need to be made for covering, or is it insignificant enough it doesn't
matter.
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Jon Jones
Ironton, MO
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| Subject: | Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage |
good point... it may not be critical but my horizontal stabilizer is mounted on
washers and I could adjust them if needed. I suspect that will be one of the
many things that crop up when one re-assembles the plane after covering/paint....
I guess I'll just skip the covering altogether - ha!
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | OT father of jeepenpol |
Luke, I am your father!
1928 overland whippet four. 134 CI. 31 HP. Later developed into the GoDevil
Jeep engine of WW two.
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| Subject: | OT father of Jeep |
1928 whippet head
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| Subject: | Re: OT father of Jeep |
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| Subject: | Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage |
Jake,
A picture is worth a thousand words (maybe two thousand for this air line pilot).
Thanks!
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: OT father of Jeep |
Yes, it is. LoL
On May 23, 2017 7:53 PM, "Boatright, Jeffrey" <jboatri@emory.edu> wrote:
> Pretty sure that this is a whippet head
>
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> --
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> Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO
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> *From: *<owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Steven
> Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 8:36 PM
> *To: *"pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject: *Pietenpol-List: OT father of Jeep
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> 1928 whippet head
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| Subject: | Re: Prop cover plate |
Nice design! I'm guessing the Ford builders will be especially interested in these
for the period look that they impart. My A75 sports a thin aluminum reproduction
of the original Continental plate, which I think I got from Wag Aero
or someplace. I don't remember what it cost. It, too, is decorative and goes
over the real crush plate. Obviously, those who are using tapered shaft prop
hubs will be out of luck with something like this, although I guess you could
also design a plate with the graphics positioned around where the nose of the
hub pokes through.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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| Subject: | Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage |
Jake-! Long time no hear progress report. I was expecting to see a cloud of blue
smoke from your radial engine on the horizon north of me when you fired it
up.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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| Subject: | Re: The Kapler/Zuniga hinge on a steel tube fuselage |
I should probably cover the plane before I fly in....
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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