---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 06/13/17: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:49 AM - Re: Re: Cutting process and accuracy (Barry Davis) 2. 01:41 PM - Re: Cutting process and accuracy (wheelharp) 3. 02:33 PM - Re: Re: Cutting process and accuracy (Jack Fastnaught) 4. 03:15 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 06/12/17 (Steve Knoll) 5. 07:11 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 06/12/17 (jarheadpilot82) 6. 10:02 PM - Re: Cutting process and accuracy (taildrags) 7. 10:40 PM - Re: Re: Cutting process and accuracy (Clif Dawson) 8. 10:42 PM - Re: Re: Cutting process and accuracy (Clif Dawson) 9. 10:43 PM - Re: Re: Cutting process and accuracy (John Woods) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:04 AM PST US From: "Barry Davis" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cutting process and accuracy Tools I wish I had a bandsaw that is worth a crap!. I had an old cheap saw that you have to hold the wood at a 20 degree angle to cut down a line. I took it to the dump and pushed it off the back of the truck. I finally gave up and bought a RIGID brand for about $500. Now I have to hold the wood at about a 30 degree angle to follow a line. Totally worthless! I am considering buying Carter Guides, but I might just be wasting my time and money installing these on a Rigid saw. Any ideas or suggestions? Barry -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tools Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 2:36 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cutting process and accuracy I'm in the bandsaw camp. Scribe a line, cut and plane. Joint remaining surface, lather rinse repeat. I freehand accurately to a line, no jigs and such, not necessary. Tools Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470007#470007 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:41:05 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cutting process and accuracy From: "wheelharp" I use a wood slicer blade from highland woodworking http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/woodslicer12resawbandsawblades705to137.aspx and found some tutorials on youtube for setting up for drift angle. I guess the resaw blade is actually for resawing wide boards into very thin stock or making veneers, but I like the fact it is only .022 wide, so less waste... -------- Jon Jones Ironton, MO Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470059#470059 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:33:11 PM PST US From: Jack Fastnaught Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cutting process and accuracy Barry, I think your problem is the blade and a tune up. I have had good success with either Carter or Timber wolf blades. Next check the tires on the big wheels. Then check tension on the blade. Make sure the blade is tracking correctly. Should be good after that. After all the saw is just a mechanism to spin the blade. Good luck. Jack Sent from my iPad > On Jun 13, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Barry Davis wrote: > > > Tools > I wish I had a bandsaw that is worth a crap!. I had an old cheap saw that > you have to hold the wood at a 20 degree angle to cut down a line. I took it > to the dump and pushed it off the back of the truck. I finally gave up and > bought a RIGID brand for about $500. Now I have to hold the wood at about a > 30 degree angle to follow a line. Totally worthless! I am considering buying > Carter Guides, but I might just be wasting my time and money installing > these on a Rigid saw. Any ideas or suggestions? > Barry > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tools > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 2:36 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cutting process and accuracy > > > I'm in the bandsaw camp. Scribe a line, cut and plane. Joint remaining > surface, lather rinse repeat. > > I freehand accurately to a line, no jigs and such, not necessary. > > Tools > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470007#470007 > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:15:17 PM PST US From: Steve Knoll Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 06/12/17 Please take me off this list. It's filling up my mailbox. On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:03 AM, Pietenpol-List Digest Server < pietenpol-list@matronics.com> wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style > 82701&View=html&Chapter 17-06-12&Archive=Pietenpol > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style > 82701&View=txt&Chapter 17-06-12&Archive=Pietenpol > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Pietenpol-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 06/12/17: 2 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 11:38 AM - Re: Cutting process and accuracy (tools) > 2. 11:54 AM - Re: OT opinion from the peanut gallery (tools) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:38:05 AM PST US > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cutting process and accuracy > From: "tools" > > > I'm in the bandsaw camp. Scribe a line, cut and plane. Joint remaining > surface, > lather rinse repeat. > > I freehand accurately to a line, no jigs and such, not necessary. > > Tools > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470007#470007 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:54:04 AM PST US > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: OT opinion from the peanut gallery > From: "tools" > > > I'd say if you want to instruct in a champ, just make sure the gear isn't > slap > worn out. Many champs, and Chiefs, suffer from collapsed springs and the > belief > that the oil in them isn't important. These are difficult machines to > manage > in decent winds on concrete. > > The tandam thing is miserable if you don't have a decent intercom. Not > that difficult > in a enclosed cockpit. > > It's a miserable adverse yaw machine, which DOES force you to learn to fly > coordinated > and keep the ailerons in the correct spot if the plane is MOVING, at all! > > > If a 65hp machine, you'll never be able to teach someone to fly at pattern > altitude... > Some students just won't be feasible. 85 much better, beefed up 85 > probably > the way to go. > > Considering the other two machines, I'd prefer the champ by a long shot. > If you > want regular work, the other two. While you will be a rare bird, there > aren't > many folks really wanting to take on a taildragger. > > I LOVE instructing in my 120. Don't even flinch at a direct 15 to 18 kt > direct > crosswind. > > Tools > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470008#470008 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:37 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 06/12/17 From: "jarheadpilot82" How to unsubscribe - http://www.matronics.com/subscribe/ -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470074#470074 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:31 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cutting process and accuracy From: "taildrags" Jack; if you could make a YouTube video on how to make a bandsaw work the way they're supposed to, it would go viral. I've fiddled and fussed with the guides and wheels and knobs and adjustments on my (admittedly, inexpensive) bandsaw and I'm like Barry... nothing I do seems to make it want to cut straight and vertical unless I feed the stock into the blade so slowly that I might as well just use hand tools to do it. Even a jigsaw can cut vertical cuts, but they are hell on thin stock and once the jigsaw starts the stock chattering, I just force the blade through it with plenty of extra outside my cut line to get done and hope I can sand out the imperfections ;o) Can you understand why I don't work at NASA building space hardware, but build experimental low and slow aircraft instead? ;o) -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470082#470082 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:40:44 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cutting process and accuracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQqq3rAZ4PI Clif workin' on Johnsons. ----- Original Message ----- From: "taildrags" Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 10:00 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cutting process and accuracy > > Jack; if you could make a YouTube video on how to make a bandsaw work the > way they're supposed to, it would go viral. I've fiddled and fussed with > the guides and wheels and knobs and adjustments on my (admittedly, > inexpensive) bandsaw and I'm like Barry... nothing I do seems to make it > want to cut straight and vertical unless I feed the stock into the blade > so slowly that I might as well just use hand tools to do it. Even a > jigsaw can cut vertical cuts, but they are hell on thin stock and once the > jigsaw starts the stock chattering, I just force the blade through it with > plenty of extra outside my cut line to get done and hope I can sand out > the imperfections ;o) Can you understand why I don't work at NASA > building space hardware, but build experimental low and slow aircraft > instead? ;o) > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470082#470082 > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:42:16 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cutting process and accuracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQqq3rAZ4PI Clif workin' on Johnsons. ----- Original Message ----- From: "taildrags" Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 10:00 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cutting process and accuracy > > Jack; if you could make a YouTube video on how to make a bandsaw work the > way they're supposed to, it would go viral. I've fiddled and fussed with > the guides and wheels and knobs and adjustments on my (admittedly, > inexpensive) bandsaw and I'm like Barry... nothing I do seems to make it > want to cut straight and vertical unless I feed the stock into the blade > so slowly that I might as well just use hand tools to do it. Even a > jigsaw can cut vertical cuts, but they are hell on thin stock and once the > jigsaw starts the stock chattering, I just force the blade through it with > plenty of extra outside my cut line to get done and hope I can sand out > the imperfections ;o) Can you understand why I don't work at NASA > building space hardware, but build experimental low and slow aircraft > instead? ;o) > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470082#470082 > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:34 PM PST US From: John Woods Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cutting process and accuracy I had a band saw, then sold it and got a Ryobi BT3000 table saw. Problems gone. Cut all my 1/4 x 1/2 rib stock, longerons and ply with it...everything, no extra sanding or planing. I found it more versatile than the band saw. JohnW On 14 June 2017 at 13:00, taildrags wrote: > > Jack; if you could make a YouTube video on how to make a bandsaw work the > way they're supposed to, it would go viral. I've fiddled and fussed with > the guides and wheels and knobs and adjustments on my (admittedly, > inexpensive) bandsaw and I'm like Barry... nothing I do seems to make it > want to cut straight and vertical unless I feed the stock into the blade so > slowly that I might as well just use hand tools to do it. Even a jigsaw > can cut vertical cuts, but they are hell on thin stock and once the jigsaw > starts the stock chattering, I just force the blade through it with plenty > of extra outside my cut line to get done and hope I can sand out the > imperfections ;o) Can you understand why I don't work at NASA building > space hardware, but build experimental low and slow aircraft instead? ;o) > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470082#470082 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.