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3. 12:00 PM - Re: Dick Navratil's Rotec powered Piet (charles mcfarland)
4. 08:30 PM - Re: Re: Dick Navratil's Rotec powered Piet ((null) raykrause)
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| Subject: | Dick Navratil's Rotec powered Piet |
I am looking for anyone who might have been around when Dick Navratil covered the
wings of his Pietenpol 25RN. I bought the airplane and it is in need of some
fabric touch up and it is not clear in his logbooks what kind of paint or even
process he used. Dick wanted the fabric to appear to be leather and also
kind of translucent. He went to great extremes to order fabric that was not stamped
with the ink from the supplier (poly-fiber, ceconite, Stewart, etc.).
The paint had some type of UV filter mixed in with it, so there was no "silver"
coat underneath the paint. There is also no evidence of the pink color usually
associated with poly-fiber or green associated with Stewart systems. It appears
that it was just a clear glue, possibly a white primer and then stained
somehow. So far I have not been able to find a paint supplier that can come close
to matching it and even spots that Dick had touched up were not good matches
and just brushed on over the sprayed area.
Any help from anyone who might have been around when the airplane was finished
would be greatly appreciated!
Charlie McFarland
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| Subject: | Re: Dick Navratil's Rotec powered Piet |
I distinctly remember, from the Sport Aviation article I believe, that he contacted
the folks at Poly Fiber to create that paint. Maybe you can find that article
again to make sure my recollection is correct.
Dan Helsper
Loensloe Airfield
Puryear, TN
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From: charles mcfarland <charles.w.mcfarland@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 10, 2017 12:44 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dick Navratil's Rotec powered Piet
I am looking for anyone who might have been around when Dick Navratil covered the
wings of his Pietenpol 25RN. I bought the airplane and it is in need of some
fabric touch up and it is not clear in his logbooks what kind of paint or even
process he used. Dick wanted the fabric to appear to be leather and also
kind of translucent. He went to great extremes to order fabric that was not stamped
with the ink from the supplier (poly-fiber, ceconite, Stewart, etc.).
The paint had some type of UV filter mixed in with it, so there was no "silver"
coat underneath the paint. There is also no evidence of the pink color usually
associated with poly-fiber or green associated with Stewart systems. It appears
that it was just a clear glue, possibly a white primer and then stained
somehow. So far I have not been able to find a paint supplier that can come close
to matching it and even spots that Dick had touched up were not good matches
and just brushed on over the sprayed area.
Any help from anyone who might have been around when the airplane was finished
would be greatly appreciated!
Charlie McFarland
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470869#470869
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| Subject: | Re: Dick Navratil's Rotec powered Piet |
Thanks Dan,
I contacted Poly-fiber a few months ago, but they had no record of any transactions
with Dick and nobody knew anything about the paint that was used. Apparently,
they had a fire or something that destroyed all records shortly after Dick
had worked with them.
All part of the fun of a homebuilt, right?
Thanks again,
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Dick Navratil's Rotec powered Piet |
I used the Stewart's system and they have a clear cement that I used...no gr
een or pink. Check to see if he used latex paint by using some denatured alc
ohol . Rub a bit on in a hidden spot, if the surface rubs off, it is latex-
like paint (water based). Water based paint is highly UV resistant and so
me is pretty translucent. I tried some clear latex, but it was not too UV re
sistant. The clear cement under it turned brown in the sunlight (UV), looked
bad, but still was strong and OK according to Stewerts. I painted over the c
lear with highly resistant opaque latex (yellow). I'd bet he used latex.
Ray Krause
SkyScout, almost ready for DAR!
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> On Jul 10, 2017, at 12:00 PM, charles mcfarland <charles.w.mcfarland@gmail
.com> wrote:
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land@gmail.com>
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> Thanks Dan,
>
> I contacted Poly-fiber a few months ago, but they had no record of any tra
nsactions with Dick and nobody knew anything about the paint that was used.
Apparently, they had a fire or something that destroyed all records shortly
after Dick had worked with them.
>
> All part of the fun of a homebuilt, right?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Charlie
>
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470874#470874
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| Subject: | Re: Dick Navratil's Rotec powered Piet |
I did a Google search for "Dick Navratil matronics pietenpol paint" and
found some references
Here is one tidbit written by Dick on the Rotecradial
"Poly Fiber made a special batch of Poly Tone finish for me. It is a clear
finish with a wood type stain added and UV filter.
I did a lot of testing to try for a look of stretched leather. I'm pretty
happy with the result. I have the leather for the interior, I will be
starting on that. I'm going to have a saddle shop finish it for me. I want
the seats to have a western saddle type of look."
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:00 PM, charles mcfarland <
charles.w.mcfarland@gmail.com> wrote:
> charles.w.mcfarland@gmail.com>
>
> Thanks Dan,
>
> I contacted Poly-fiber a few months ago, but they had no record of any
> transactions with Dick and nobody knew anything about the paint that was
> used. Apparently, they had a fire or something that destroyed all records
> shortly after Dick had worked with them.
>
> All part of the fun of a homebuilt, right?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Charlie
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=470874#470874
>
>
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