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1. 08:12 AM - Spay Latex on Aluminum (Michael Perez)
2. 08:33 AM - Re: Spay Latex on Aluminum (Steven Dortch)
3. 08:52 AM - Re: Spay Latex on Aluminum (Glen Schweizer)
4. 08:52 AM - Re: Spay Latex on Aluminum (Michael Perez)
5. 11:25 AM - Re: Main Gear Spring Design (Harvey Plummer)
6. 11:43 AM - Re: Spay Latex on Aluminum (goffelectric@comcast.net)
7. 12:46 PM - Re: Re: Main Gear Spring Design (vk3eka@bigpond.net.au)
8. 05:48 PM - Re: Re: Main Gear Spring Design (Steven Dortch)
9. 05:49 PM - Re: Re: Main Gear Spring Design (Steven Dortch)
10. 05:50 PM - Re: Re: Main Gear Spring Design (Steven Dortch)
11. 06:15 PM - Re: Re: Main Gear Spring Design (Kip Gardner)
12. 06:35 PM - Re: Re: Main Gear Spring Design (Peter Johnson)
13. 06:48 PM - Re: Re: Main Gear Spring Design (Kip Gardner)
14. 08:24 PM - Re: Re: Main Gear Spring Design (Steven Dortch)
15. 08:44 PM - Re: Spay Latex on Aluminum (Steven Dortch)
16. 08:47 PM - Re: Spay Latex on Aluminum (Steven Dortch)
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Subject: | Spay Latex on Aluminum |
=C2-Hello crew. It's been a long time.=C2- I am curious if anyone has s
prayed latex paint on aluminum, (bar, sheet, other aircraft) and if so how
has it held up? I brushed latex paint on my fabric and I know others have s
prayed it on their fabric, but I am curious if anyone has sprayed latex pai
nt on aluminum.
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Subject: | Re: Spay Latex on Aluminum |
Yes, I primed it with self etching primer and sprayed latex on. No flying
yet, but it has held up to moves and handling well.
On Nov 29, 2017 10:15 AM, "Michael Perez" <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Hello crew. It's been a long time. I am curious if anyone has sprayed
> latex paint on aluminum, (bar, sheet, other aircraft) and if so how has it
> held up? I brushed latex paint on my fabric and I know others have sprayed
> it on their fabric, but I am curious if anyone has sprayed latex paint on
> aluminum.
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Spay Latex on Aluminum |
If sprayed over epoxy primer you should be ok. Don=99t use over self e
tching prime as some latex pigments will react with acid and either change c
olor or bleed through. Follow proper prep procedures for your epoxy primer o
ver aluminum or it won=99t adhere
> On Nov 29, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> wrot
e:
>
>
> Hello crew. It's been a long time. I am curious if anyone has sprayed lat
ex paint on aluminum, (bar, sheet, other aircraft) and if so how has it held
up? I brushed latex paint on my fabric and I know others have sprayed it on
their fabric, but I am curious if anyone has sprayed latex paint on aluminu
m.
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Spay Latex on Aluminum |
Thanks. Was the paint used exterior, interior...gloss, semi gloss or flat? Water
based?
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Subject: | Re: Main Gear Spring Design |
So which did you guys build? what Jarhead is suggesting or the van der Voort design
I referred to?
Thanks.
--------
Harv, 485PB
Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: Spay Latex on Aluminum |
Check out the Wiener Dog Aero site, he goes into great detail on his process. I
used his process on the aluminum and it works great.
Thanks,
Keith Goff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Perez" <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:49:39 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Spay Latex on Aluminum
Thanks. Was the paint used exterior, interior...gloss, semi gloss or flat? Water
based?
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Subject: | Re: Main Gear Spring Design |
The same as the construction on WW=99s site.
Cheers
Peter
Get Outlook for iOS
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:21 AM +1100, "Harvey Plummer" <plummerharvey@yaho
o.com> wrote:
So which did you guys build? what Jarhead is suggesting or the van der Voor
t design I referred to?
Thanks.
--------
Harv, 485PB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475933#475933
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Subject: | Re: Main Gear Spring Design |
Drawing of the can Not drawn to any scale whatsoever.
On Nov 29, 2017 7:44 PM, "Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here are my drawings of the setup. NOTE Not drawn to any scale known to
> man.
>
> On Nov 29, 2017 2:49 PM, <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>
>> The same as the construction on WW=99s site.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:21 AM +1100, "Harvey Plummer" <
>> plummerharvey@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So which did you guys build? what Jarhead is suggesting or the van der
Voort design I referred to?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Harv, 485PB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475933#475933
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Subject: | Re: Main Gear Spring Design |
Another drawing. The measurements are in furlongs, cubits and pecks.
On Nov 29, 2017 7:47 PM, "Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com> wrote:
> Drawing of the can Not drawn to any scale whatsoever.
>
> On Nov 29, 2017 7:44 PM, "Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Here are my drawings of the setup. NOTE Not drawn to any scale known to
>> man.
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2017 2:49 PM, <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>> The same as the construction on WW=99s site.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:21 AM +1100, "Harvey Plummer" <
>>> plummerharvey@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> So which did you guys build? what Jarhead is suggesting or the van der
Voort design I referred to?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>> Harv, 485PB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475933#475933
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Subject: | Re: Main Gear Spring Design |
One more.
On Nov 29, 2017 7:49 PM, "Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com> wrote:
> Another drawing. The measurements are in furlongs, cubits and pecks.
>
> On Nov 29, 2017 7:47 PM, "Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Drawing of the can Not drawn to any scale whatsoever.
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2017 7:44 PM, "Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here are my drawings of the setup. NOTE Not drawn to any scale known to
>>> man.
>>>
>>> On Nov 29, 2017 2:49 PM, <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The same as the construction on WW=99s site.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:21 AM +1100, "Harvey Plummer" <
>>>> plummerharvey@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So which did you guys build? what Jarhead is suggesting or the van de
r Voort design I referred to?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------
>>>>> Harv, 485PB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475933#475933
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Subject: | Re: Main Gear Spring Design |
Once finished, is the interior lubricated/greased/protected from
corrosion in any way? Also, it would appear that the spring has to be
shorter than the can, how do you determine by how much, or am I looking
at it wrong? Overall, I like the idea much better than the other spring
designs I=99ve seen.
Kip Gardner
> On Nov 29, 2017, at 8:47 PM, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Drawing of the can Not drawn to any scale whatsoever.
>
> On Nov 29, 2017 7:44 PM, "Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com
<mailto:steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Here are my drawings of the setup. NOTE Not drawn to any scale known
to man.
>
> On Nov 29, 2017 2:49 PM, <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au
<mailto:vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>> wrote:
> The same as the construction on WW=99s site.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:21 AM +1100, "Harvey Plummer"
<plummerharvey@yahoo.com <mailto:plummerharvey@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>
> So which did you guys build? what Jarhead is suggesting or the van der
Voort design I referred to?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --------
> Harv, 485PB
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475933#475933
<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475933#475933>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <IMG_20171017_175521188.jpg>
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Subject: | Re: Main Gear Spring Design |
Kip,
The spring is 6 inches long, I made the tube 6 1/4 inches to take into acco
unt the welded cap on the end. I added another spacer to the top of the cap
to provide a bit more of a gap so that nothing was damaged when welding the
top cap. The cap, spacer and weld are slightly thicker that the 1/4 inch so
I compressed the spring very slightly when I welded on the top cap. A little
bit of compression stops any rattles when no load is applied.
I painted the long tube before welding the top cap in place. I intend to sq
uirt some oil in the rod end hole (top) every now and again (say every annua
l) to stop the corrosion.
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://www.cpc-world.com
From: <owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Kip Gardner
<kipgohio1957@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Main Gear Spring Design
Once finished, is the interior lubricated/greased/protected from corrosion
in any way? Also, it would appear that the spring has to be shorter than th
e can, how do you determine by how much, or am I looking at it wrong? Overa
ll, I like the idea much better than the other spring designs I=99ve seen.
Kip Gardner
On Nov 29, 2017, at 8:47 PM, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com> wrot
e:
Drawing of the can Not drawn to any scale whatsoever.
On Nov 29, 2017 7:44 PM, "Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com> wrote:
Here are my drawings of the setup. NOTE Not drawn to any scale known to man
.
On Nov 29, 2017 2:49 PM, <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
The same as the construction on WW=99s site.
Cheers
Peter
Get Outlook for iOS
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:21 AM +1100, "Harvey Plummer" <plummerharvey@yaho
o.com> wrote:
So which did you guys build? what Jarhead is suggesting or the van der Voor
t design I referred to?
Thanks.
--------
Harv, 485PB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475933#475933
<IMG_20171017_175521188.jpg>
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Subject: | Re: Main Gear Spring Design |
Peter,
Thanks, that all makes perfect sense, even to me :) !
Kip
> On Nov 29, 2017, at 9:34 PM, Peter Johnson <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
wrote:
>
> Kip,
>
> The spring is 6 inches long, I made the tube 6 1/4 inches to take into
account the welded cap on the end. I added another spacer to the top of
the cap to provide a bit more of a gap so that nothing was damaged when
welding the top cap. The cap, spacer and weld are slightly thicker that
the 1/4 inch so I compressed the spring very slightly when I welded on
the top cap. A little bit of compression stops any rattles when no load
is applied.
>
> I painted the long tube before welding the top cap in place. I intend
to squirt some oil in the rod end hole (top) every now and again (say
every annual) to stop the corrosion.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
> Wonthaggi Australia
> http://www.cpc-world.com <http://www.cpc-world.com/>
>
>
>
>
> From: <owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com>> on behalf of Kip
Gardner <kipgohio1957@gmail.com <mailto:kipgohio1957@gmail.com>>
<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>>
> Date: Thursday, 30 November 2017 at 1:14 pm
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com
<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Main Gear Spring Design
>
> Once finished, is the interior lubricated/greased/protected from
corrosion in any way? Also, it would appear that the spring has to be
shorter than the can, how do you determine by how much, or am I looking
at it wrong? Overall, I like the idea much better than the other spring
designs I=99ve seen.
>
> Kip Gardner
>
> On Nov 29, 2017, at 8:47 PM, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com
<mailto:steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Drawing of the can Not drawn to any scale whatsoever.
>
> On Nov 29, 2017 7:44 PM, "Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com
<mailto:steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Here are my drawings of the setup. NOTE Not drawn to any scale known
to man.
>
> On Nov 29, 2017 2:49 PM, <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au
<mailto:vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>> wrote:
> The same as the construction on WW=99s site.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:21 AM +1100, "Harvey Plummer"
<plummerharvey@yahoo.com <mailto:plummerharvey@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>
> So which did you guys build? what Jarhead is suggesting or the van der
Voort design I referred to?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --------
> Harv, 485PB
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475933#475933
<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475933#475933>
>
>
>
>
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> <IMG_20171017_175521188.jpg>
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> <IMG_1015.jpg><IMG_1016.jpg>
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Subject: | Re: Main Gear Spring Design |
The spring is under compression. When we welded one, either a drop of slag
got in the way or there was a tiny weld to the spring. No movement. I fixed
it by chaining it between two truck bumpers and giving it a jerk. It worked
.
Everything was painted. Then before installing them on the plane, I soaked
the inside with corrosion-X and LPS 3. They will be bathed in exhaust heat
and engine oil each flight.
On Nov 29, 2017 8:50 PM, "Kip Gardner" <kipgohio1957@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter,
Thanks, that all makes perfect sense, even to me :) !
Kip
On Nov 29, 2017, at 9:34 PM, Peter Johnson <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
Kip,
The spring is 6 inches long, I made the tube 6 1/4 inches to take into
account the welded cap on the end. I added another spacer to the top of the
cap to provide a bit more of a gap so that nothing was damaged when welding
the top cap. The cap, spacer and weld are slightly thicker that the 1/4
inch so I compressed the spring very slightly when I welded on the top cap.
A little bit of compression stops any rattles when no load is applied.
I painted the long tube before welding the top cap in place. I intend to
squirt some oil in the rod end hole (top) every now and again (say every
annual) to stop the corrosion.
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://www.cpc-world.com
*From: *<owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Kip
Gardner <kipgohio1957@gmail.com>
*Date: *Thursday, 30 November 2017 at 1:14 pm
*To: *<pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
*Subject: *Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Main Gear Spring Design
Once finished, is the interior lubricated/greased/protected from corrosion
in any way? Also, it would appear that the spring has to be shorter than
the can, how do you determine by how much, or am I looking at it wrong?
Overall, I like the idea much better than the other spring designs I
=99ve
seen.
Kip Gardner
On Nov 29, 2017, at 8:47 PM, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
wrote:
Drawing of the can Not drawn to any scale whatsoever.
On Nov 29, 2017 7:44 PM, "Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com> wrote:
Here are my drawings of the setup. NOTE Not drawn to any scale known to man
.
On Nov 29, 2017 2:49 PM, <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
The same as the construction on WW=99s site.
Cheers
Peter
Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:21 AM +1100, "Harvey Plummer" <
plummerharvey@yahoo.com> wrote:
So which did you guys build? what Jarhead is suggesting or the van der
Voort design I referred to?
Thanks.
--------
Harv, 485PB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475933#475933
<IMG_20171017_175521188.jpg>
<IMG_1015.jpg><IMG_1016.jpg>
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Subject: | Re: Spay Latex on Aluminum |
Exterior paint. I bought from Sherwin Williams. Next time Behr from the
Aviation section at home depot or Lowe's.
On Nov 29, 2017 2:02 PM, <goffelectric@comcast.net> wrote:
Check out the Wiener Dog Aero site, he goes into great detail on his
process. I used his process on the aluminum and it works great.
Thanks,
Keith Goff
------------------------------
*From: *"Michael Perez" <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
*To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:49:39 AM
*Subject: *Re: Pietenpol-List: Spay Latex on Aluminum
Thanks. Was the paint used exterior, interior...gloss, semi gloss or flat?
Water based?
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Subject: | Re: Spay Latex on Aluminum |
Oh yeah. Gloss looks great but shows every flaw. Flat hides all flaws, but
looks, well, flat. I used semigloss.
On high wear areas. I used rattlecan enamel.
Blue skies.
On Nov 29, 2017 10:44 PM, "Steven Dortch" <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com> wrote:
> Exterior paint. I bought from Sherwin Williams. Next time Behr from the
> Aviation section at home depot or Lowe's.
>
> On Nov 29, 2017 2:02 PM, <goffelectric@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Check out the Wiener Dog Aero site, he goes into great detail on his
> process. I used his process on the aluminum and it works great.
>
> Thanks,
> Keith Goff
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Michael Perez" <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
> *To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:49:39 AM
> *Subject: *Re: Pietenpol-List: Spay Latex on Aluminum
>
>
> Thanks. Was the paint used exterior, interior...gloss, semi gloss or flat?
> Water based?
>
>
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