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Based on the info you provided alone, I=99d be a bit skeptical as to
whether
the corvair was built per =9Cthe manual,=9D as William Wynn is
pretty vocal
about his opposition to using motorcycle carbs or anything other than a
Stromberg or an MA-3. It=99s not a smoking gun, but it=99s reas
onable to
suspect that the builder might=99ve made other deviations from the ma
nual if
he was willing to diverge from this very important bit of guidance.
Not saying that you can=99t built a flight engine any other way than
WW says,
but he does spill quite a bit of ink talking about carbs. I imagine he
=99d
say the same thing if you were to contact him.
Brian Ahrens
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 9:11 AM Jack Philips <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
wrote:
> jack@bedfordlandings.com>
>
> " I'm have my A&P so even though I'm not the original builder I could wor
k
> on it." You could work on it whether you built it or not, and whether yo
u
> were an A&P or not. As an A&P you can do the Condition Inspections on it
,
> even though you didn't build it.
>
> The Special Airworthiness Certificate will have to be issued by a DAR or
by
> the local FAA FSDO. This would be the case whether you built it or not.
>
> As for the Corvair powerplant, I'll let those who know Corvairs comment.
> Perhaps you can contact William Wynne, since he knows more about them tha
n
> anyone else.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Jack Phillips
> Pietenpol NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of j_dunavin
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 10:42 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pre buy inpection questions.
>
> --> <j_dunavin@hotmail.com>
>
> I'm looking at a Piet for sale that has a corvair motor and was apparentl
y
> built per the manual. It has no 5th bearing and a Harley Davidson carb.
> I suppose the right thing to do is tear it back down and verify proper
> modifications, block, crank numbers, as well a getting a 5th bearing for
> it.
>
> Assume nothing, right?
>
> Kind of related question:
> The aircraft is mostly finished, covered painted, etc. It looks like a go
od
> quality build, from what I can see in the inspection panels and whatnot.
> Landing gear is metal type, with cross springs, good looking welds,
> supposedly from a certified guy.
> However, there is no build log, and very few pictures, like 6 maybe. No
> receipts, and except for a copy of the plans and misc notes, drawings, no
> paperwork.
> It's never been finished, no N number etc.
> How would that work with an inspection?
> How would an EAA tech advisor. Or whomever the guy is that gives you the
> certificate, sign that off?
> I'm have my A&P so even though I'm not the original builder I could work
on
> it.
>
> Thoughts?
> Thanks
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482375#482375
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pre buy inpection questions. |
Is it the blue and White Piet. I bought a unfinished Baby Lakes about 5 yea
rs ago that was not quite as completed as the piet. I called my local FSDO
and discussed the project over the phone. The inspector was very accommodat
ing and helpful. I will admit that i was worried when my proposed 6 month w
inter project turned into a four year project. I was worried that the inspe
ctor may get moved to another fsdo and the next guy may not license it. I h
ad the same issue with a construction log, i had 2 paragraphs on the back o
f a Winston cigarette carton, and 3 photos of the wing fittings and an unco
vered wing panel. =C2-So call the FSDO share your concerns and disclose w
hat you are planning to do with the project and act on it accordingly.=C2
-
Shad
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On Thursday, August 16, 2018, 4:30 PM, Brian Ahrens <btahrens@gmail.com> wr
ote:
Based on the info you provided alone, I=99d be a bit skeptical as to
whether the corvair was built per =9Cthe manual,=9D as William
Wynn is pretty vocal about his opposition to using motorcycle carbs or anyt
hing other than a Stromberg or an MA-3. It=99s not a smoking gun, but
it=99s reasonable to suspect that the builder might=99ve made
other deviations from the manual if he was willing to diverge from this ver
y important bit of guidance.=C2-
Not saying that you can=99t built a flight engine any other way than
WW says, but he does spill quite a bit of ink talking about carbs. I imagin
e he=99d say the same thing if you were to contact him.=C2-
Brian Ahrens
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 9:11 AM Jack Philips <jack@bedfordlandings.com> wro
te:
com>
" I'm have my A&P so even though I'm not the original builder I could work
on it."=C2- You could work on it whether you built it or not, and whether
you
were an A&P or not.=C2- As an A&P you can do the Condition Inspections on
it,
even though you didn't build it.
The Special Airworthiness Certificate will have to be issued by a DAR or by
the local FAA FSDO.=C2- This would be the case whether you built it or no
t.
As for the Corvair powerplant, I'll let those who know Corvairs comment.
Perhaps you can contact William Wynne, since he knows more about them than
anyone else.
Good Luck!
Jack Phillips
Pietenpol NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of j_dunavin
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 10:42 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pre buy inpection questions.
--> <j_dunavin@hotmail.com>
I'm looking at a Piet for sale that has a corvair motor and was apparently
built per the manual. It has no 5th bearing and a Harley Davidson carb.
I suppose the right thing to do is tear it back down and verify proper
modifications, block, crank numbers, as well a getting a 5th bearing for it
.
Assume nothing, right?
Kind of related question:
The aircraft is mostly finished, covered painted, etc. It looks like a good
quality build, from what I can see in the inspection panels and whatnot.
Landing gear is metal type, with cross springs, good looking welds,
supposedly from a certified guy.
However, there is no build log, and very few pictures, like 6 maybe. No
receipts, and except for a copy of the plans and misc notes, drawings, no
paperwork.
It's never been finished, no N number etc.
How would that work with an inspection?
How would an EAA tech advisor. Or whomever the guy is that gives you the
certificate, sign that off?
I'm have my A&P so even though I'm not the original builder I could work on
it.
Thoughts?
Thanks
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