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2. 01:55 PM - Re: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 09/02/18 (John Klemin)
3. 04:56 PM - Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?I=99m?= back! And varnishi (Mark Roberts)
4. 04:59 PM - Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?I=99m?= back! And varnishing the fuse... how m (Mark Roberts)
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 09/02/18 |
I live in the Blackman area!
For the 2 in pleasentview, are you flying?
I=99m a year into my project.
https://m.facebook.com/groups/1698459467128022?ref=bookmarks
- Rich
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> 1. 11:52 AM - =?UTF-8?Q?I=99m_back=21_And_varnishing_the_fuse=
2E=2E=2E_how_many_coat?= =?UTF-8?Q?s=3F? (Mark Roberts)
> 2. 12:33 PM - =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFBpZXRlbnBvbC1MaXN0OiBJ4oCZbSBiYWNrISBB
bmQgdmE=?= =?UTF-8?B?cm5pc2hpbmcgdGhlIGZ1c2UuLi4gaG93IG1hbnkgY29hdHM/?
(John Franklin)
> 3. 12:37 PM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__Re:_Pietenpol-List:_I=99m_ba?= =?
utf-8?Q?ck!_And_varnishing_the_fuse..._how_many_coats=3F? (John Klemin)
> 4. 01:08 PM - =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Pietenpol=2DList=3A_I=99m_back
=21_And_varnishing_the_f?= =?UTF-8?Q?use=2E=2E=2E_how_many_co
ats=3F? (vic groah)
> 5. 02:12 PM - =?UTF-8?Q?Re:__I=99m_back!_And_va?= =?UTF-8?Q?rn
ishing_the_fuse..._how_many_coats=3F? (Chris Tracy)
> 6. 02:51 PM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__I=99m_back!_And_varnishing_t?= =?
utf-8?Q?he_fuse..._how_many_coats=3F? (Glen Schweizer)
> 7. 03:10 PM - Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?I=99m?= back! And varnishing th
e fuse... how m (Mark Roberts)
> 8. 03:31 PM - Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?I=99m?= back! And varnishing th
e fuse... how m (taildrags)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________
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>
>
> Time: 11:52:39 AM PST US
> From: Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: =?UTF-8?Q?I=99m_back=21_And_varnishing_the_
fuse=2E=2E=2E_how_many_coat?
> =?UTF-8?Q?s=3F?
>
> Hello all!
>
> After a little over six years of hibernation, I am beginning work on the
> Piet again. We=99ve been in a condominium for about four years, and
> this
> winter move to a house with an oversize garage that will allow me to work
> on the plane.
>
> When I had to stop working on the plane I had put one coat of varnish on
> the majority of the structure, and in some places to coats.
>
> When I had to stop working on plane I had put one coat of varnish on the
> majority of the structure, and some places to coach. As I return to the
> project, I am wondering if the entire structure needs two coats of varnish
> or if one coat is sufficient in the rear of the airplane. Places that will
> see wear I would imagine would require two coats or three.
>
> What is the advice of the wise?
>
> To all my West Coast Pieter friends, I=99m now in Smyrna Tennessee (j
> ust
> outside of Nashville).
>
> Is there anyone in the Middle Tennessee area building a Piet?
>
> Thanks for the varnishing advice. I=99m sanding down the structure af
> ter the
> last coat and trying to determine how much to do.
>
> Mark Roberts
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________
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>
>
> Time: 12:33:10 PM PST US
> From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFBpZXRlbnBvbC1MaXN0OiBJ4oCZbSBiY
WNrISBBbmQgdmE=?
> =?UTF-8?B?cm5pc2hpbmcgdGhlIGZ1c2UuLi4gaG93IG1hbnkgY29hdHM/?
>
>
> Mark,
>
> For starters I would apply enough coats to fill the grain...I didn't do th
at and
> black mildew got in the pores which I had a hassle removing later. Second
,
> you can use spar varnish except for places where the fabric will touch, th
ose
> areas you should use a two-part epoxy varnish that MEK will not attack.
>
> Good luck,
> John F.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Mark Roberts
>
> Sent: Sep 2, 2018 1:51 PM
>
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Im back! And varnishing the fuse... how many coat
s?
>
>
> Hello all!
> After a little over six years of hibernation, I am beginning work on the P
iet again.
> Weve been in a condominium for about four years, and this winter move to
> a house with an oversize garage that will allow me to work on the plane.
> When I had to stop working on the plane I had put one coat of varnish on t
he majority
> of the structure, and in some places to coats.
> When I had to stop working on plane I had put one coat of varnish on the m
ajority
> of the structure, and some places to coach. As I return to the project, I
> am wondering if the entire structure needs two coats of varnish or if one c
oat
> is sufficient in the rear of the airplane. Places that will see wear I wou
ld
> imagine would require two coats or three.
> What is the advice of the wise?
> To all my West Coast Pieter friends, Im now in Smyrna Tennessee (just outs
ide of
> Nashville).
> Is there anyone in the Middle Tennessee area building a Piet?
> Thanks for the varnishing advice. Im sanding down the structure after the l
ast
> coat and trying to determine how much to do.
> Mark Roberts
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________
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>
>
> Time: 12:37:55 PM PST US
> From: John Klemin <jklemin@aol.com>
> Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Pietenpol-List:_Re:_Pietenpol-List:_I=99m_ba?=
=?utf-8?Q?ck!_And_varnishing_the_fuse..._how_many_coats=3F?
>
>
> There are two of us in Pleasantview
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 2, 2018, at 2:31 PM, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> For starters I would apply enough coats to fill the grain...I didn't do t
hat
> and black mildew got in the pores which I had a hassle removing later. Se
cond,
> you can use spar varnish except for places where the fabric will touch, th
ose
> areas you should use a two-part epoxy varnish that MEK will not attack.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> John F.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Mark Roberts
>>
>> Sent: Sep 2, 2018 1:51 PM
>>
>> To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com"
>>
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Im back! And varnishing the fuse... how many coa
ts?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello all!
>> After a little over six years of hibernation, I am beginning work on the P
iet
> again. Weve been in a condominium for about four years, and this winter m
ove
> to a house with an oversize garage that will allow me to work on the plane
.
>> When I had to stop working on the plane I had put one coat of varnish on t
he
> majority of the structure, and in some places to coats.
>> When I had to stop working on plane I had put one coat of varnish on the m
ajority
> of the structure, and some places to coach. As I return to the project,
> I am wondering if the entire structure needs two coats of varnish or if on
e coat
> is sufficient in the rear of the airplane. Places that will see wear I wou
ld
> imagine would require two coats or three.
>> What is the advice of the wise?
>> To all my West Coast Pieter friends, Im now in Smyrna Tennessee (just out
side
> of Nashville).
>> Is there anyone in the Middle Tennessee area building a Piet?
>> Thanks for the varnishing advice. Im sanding down the structure after the
last
> coat and trying to determine how much to do.
>> Mark Roberts
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________
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>
>
> Time: 01:08:32 PM PST US
> From: vic groah <vicgroah@gmail.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Pietenpol=2DList=3A_I=9
9m_back=21_And_varnishing_the_f?
> =?UTF-8?Q?use=2E=2E=2E_how_many_coats=3F?
>
> Mark. great to hear from you, It has been too long. Yes, some of us
> westerners remember you. It does not seem that long you were in our shop
> looking at our then going together Piet build. We miss you here out west.
> Hope the mid country is treating you well. Thanks for keeping in touch.
> Vic Groah 414MV.
>
>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 11:55 AM Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wrot
e:
>>
>> Hello all!
>>
>> After a little over six years of hibernation, I am beginning work on the
>> Piet again. We=99ve been in a condominium for about four years, an
> d this
>> winter move to a house with an oversize garage that will allow me to work
>> on the plane.
>>
>> When I had to stop working on the plane I had put one coat of varnish on
>> the majority of the structure, and in some places to coats.
>>
>> When I had to stop working on plane I had put one coat of varnish on the
>> majority of the structure, and some places to coach. As I return to the
>> project, I am wondering if the entire structure needs two coats of varnis
> h
>> or if one coat is sufficient in the rear of the airplane. Places that wil
> l
>> see wear I would imagine would require two coats or three.
>>
>> What is the advice of the wise?
>>
>> To all my West Coast Pieter friends, I=99m now in Smyrna Tennessee
> (just
>> outside of Nashville).
>>
>> Is there anyone in the Middle Tennessee area building a Piet?
>>
>> Thanks for the varnishing advice. I=99m sanding down the structure
> after the
>> last coat and trying to determine how much to do.
>>
>> Mark Roberts
>>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 02:12:28 PM PST US
> From: Chris Tracy <catdesigns@att.net>
> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Pietenpol-List:_I=99m_back!_And_va?= =?UTF-
8?Q?rnishing_the_fuse..._how_many_coats=3F?
>
>
> In California I'm doing 2 coats, but we don't have much rain and humidity.
> =C2-
>
> Chris
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Mark Roberts<mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wrot
> e: Hello all!
> After a little over six years of hibernation, I am beginning work on the P
i
> et again.=C2- We=99ve been in a condominium for about four years, a
> nd this winter move to a house with an oversize garage that will allow me t
> o work on the plane.
> When I had to stop working on the plane I had put one coat of varnish on t
h
> e majority of the structure, and in some places to coats.=C2-
> =C2-When I had to stop working on plane I had put one coat of varnish on
> the majority of the structure, and some places to coach.=C2- As I return
> to the project, I am wondering if the entire structure needs two coats of v
> arnish or if one coat is sufficient in the rear of the airplane. Places th
a
> t will see wear I would imagine would require two coats or three.
> What is the advice of the wise?
> To all my West Coast Pieter friends, I=99m now in Smyrna Tennessee (j
> ust outside of Nashville).
> Is there anyone in the Middle Tennessee area building a Piet?
> Thanks for the varnishing advice. I=99m sanding down the structure af
> ter the last coat and trying to determine how much to do.
> Mark Roberts
>
> ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 02:51:07 PM PST US
> From: Glen Schweizer <glenschweizer@yahoo.com>
> Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Pietenpol-List:_I=99m_back!_And_varnishing_t?=
=?utf-8?Q?he_fuse..._how_many_coats=3F?
>
>
> About varnishing, first, I hope youre using something requiring the use of
a hardener
> Urethane or epoxy will show you the best chemical resistance, and of
> the two urethane is better. Urethane is also better for u v (sunshine) re
sistance.
>
> Two coats of a good urethane is more than adequate to seal out moisture. N
o real
> need for sanding between coats unless surface is dirty or for appearance c
oncerns.
> 3coats with 320grit sanding between coats should make it look like a piano
> Any varnish in contact with your chosen finishing system must be able to r
esist
> that chemistry so check for compatibility .
>> On Sep 2, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all!
>>
>> After a little over six years of hibernation, I am beginning work on the P
iet
> again. Weve been in a condominium for about four years, and this winter m
ove
> to a house with an oversize garage that will allow me to work on the plane
.
>>
>> When I had to stop working on the plane I had put one coat of varnish on t
he
> majority of the structure, and in some places to coats.
>>
>> When I had to stop working on plane I had put one coat of varnish on the m
ajority
> of the structure, and some places to coach. As I return to the project,
> I am wondering if the entire structure needs two coats of varnish or if on
e coat
> is sufficient in the rear of the airplane. Places that will see wear I wou
ld
> imagine would require two coats or three.
>>
>> What is the advice of the wise?
>>
>> To all my West Coast Pieter friends, Im now in Smyrna Tennessee (just out
side
> of Nashville).
>>
>> Is there anyone in the Middle Tennessee area building a Piet?
>>
>> Thanks for the varnishing advice. Im sanding down the structure after the
last
> coat and trying to determine how much to do.
>>
>> Mark Roberts
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________
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>
>
> Time: 03:10:07 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?I=99m?= back! And varnis
hing the fuse...
> how m
> From: "Mark Roberts" <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
>
>
> Thanks for the replies thus far. I am using Man-o-war spar varnish to coat
the
> fuse.
>
> It appears that I will need to coat the edges that will touch the fabric w
ith a
> top coat of urethane or epoxy to keep the varnish from being dissolved by t
he
> fabric covering installation...
>
> I have been out in the garage sanding today. After all the moves we've bee
n through
> over the last 7 years, I am trying to remember where I was in the process.
> It appears I didn't do a very good job getting all of the wood covered whe
re
> I thought I had. A few missed spots in corners and such. With all of the s
ticks
> and angles, you have to be very careful to look at every nook and cranny!
>
> And Vic! So good to hear back from you. It was indeed your workshop in Vis
alia
> where I first saw and sat in a Piet - yours - waiting on my plans set to a
rrive.
> Tell Mike I said howdy. That picture is very nice!
>
> Restarting is more challenging than I thought, as I have to rebuild the mo
mentum
> - and belief that I will actually finish this project!
>
> Any other people using Man-O-War spar varnish to coat the wood? At the tim
e I was
> painting this it was what was recommended I believe...
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482878#482878
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________
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>
>
> Time: 03:31:47 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?I=99m?= back! And varnis
hing the fuse...
> how m
> From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Mark: not so fast on the chemical compatibility issue between your varnish
and
> the fabric covering system. Although I would want my fabric to be attache
d directly
> to clean bare wood, you should first decide which covering system you're
> planning to use and then read their manual or directions on prepping the w
ood
> for cover. The Stewart system uses water as the carrier for their catalyz
ed
> polyurethane in the covering process while the Poly-Fiber process uses VOC
s as
> the carrier. Once you decide on a covering system, you should be able to a
sk
> their product rep (typically a toll-free tech line) about compatibility wi
th
> your particular varnish (alkyd resin Man-O-War) as well as getting recomme
ndations
> for surface prep. It may lower your work effort while still providing a
> safe and durable fabric attachment to the wood. If, on the other hand, th
ey
> recommend that you sand the varnish off the wood surfaces first, then just
put
> on some music and prepare for hours of relaxing with some sandpaper and du
st
> ;o)
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482879#482879
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 09/02/18 |
John here, I=99m in the process of putting new fabric on the fuselage a
nd doing a corvair engine.
The other John is just starting to build his.
My # is 9315380575.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 3, 2018, at 6:39 AM, Comcast <4rcsimmons@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I live in the Blackman area!
>
> For the 2 in pleasentview, are you flying?
>
> I=99m a year into my project.
>
> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1698459467128022?ref=bookmarks
>
> - Rich
>
>> On Sep 3, 2018, at 1:39 AM, Pietenpol-List Digest Server <pietenpol-list@
matronics.com> wrote:
>>
>> *
>>
>> =========================
========================
>> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
>> =========================
========================
>>
>> Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the
>> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
>> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
>> of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
>> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>>
>> HTML Version:
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=ht
ml&Chapter 18-09-02&Archive=Pietenpol
>>
>> Text Version:
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=tx
t&Chapter 18-09-02&Archive=Pietenpol
>>
>>
>> =========================
======================
>> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
>> =========================
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>> Total Messages Posted Sun 09/02/18: 8
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
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>>
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>>
>> 1. 11:52 AM - =?UTF-8?Q?I=99m_back=21_And_varnishing_the_fuse=
2E=2E=2E_how_many_coat?= =?UTF-8?Q?s=3F? (Mark Roberts)
>> 2. 12:33 PM - =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFBpZXRlbnBvbC1MaXN0OiBJ4oCZbSBiYWNrISB
BbmQgdmE=?= =?UTF-8?B?cm5pc2hpbmcgdGhlIGZ1c2UuLi4gaG93IG1hbnkgY29hdHM/
? (John Franklin)
>> 3. 12:37 PM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__Re:_Pietenpol-List:_I=99m_ba?= =
?utf-8?Q?ck!_And_varnishing_the_fuse..._how_many_coats=3F? (John Klemin)
>> 4. 01:08 PM - =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Pietenpol=2DList=3A_I=99m_bac
k=21_And_varnishing_the_f?= =?UTF-8?Q?use=2E=2E=2E_how_many_c
oats=3F? (vic groah)
>> 5. 02:12 PM - =?UTF-8?Q?Re:__I=99m_back!_And_va?= =?UTF-8?Q?r
nishing_the_fuse..._how_many_coats=3F? (Chris Tracy)
>> 6. 02:51 PM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__I=99m_back!_And_varnishing_t?= =
?utf-8?Q?he_fuse..._how_many_coats=3F? (Glen Schweizer)
>> 7. 03:10 PM - Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?I=99m?= back! And varnishing t
he fuse... how m (Mark Roberts)
>> 8. 03:31 PM - Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?I=99m?= back! And varnishing t
he fuse... how m (taildrags)
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 1 ____________________________
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>>
>>
>> Time: 11:52:39 AM PST US
>> From: Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: =?UTF-8?Q?I=99m_back=21_And_varnishing_the
_fuse=2E=2E=2E_how_many_coat?
>> =?UTF-8?Q?s=3F?
>>
>> Hello all!
>>
>> After a little over six years of hibernation, I am beginning work on the
>> Piet again. We=99ve been in a condominium for about four years, and
>> this
>> winter move to a house with an oversize garage that will allow me to work
>> on the plane.
>>
>> When I had to stop working on the plane I had put one coat of varnish on
>> the majority of the structure, and in some places to coats.
>>
>> When I had to stop working on plane I had put one coat of varnish on the
>> majority of the structure, and some places to coach. As I return to the
>> project, I am wondering if the entire structure needs two coats of varnis
h
>> or if one coat is sufficient in the rear of the airplane. Places that wil
l
>> see wear I would imagine would require two coats or three.
>>
>> What is the advice of the wise?
>>
>> To all my West Coast Pieter friends, I=99m now in Smyrna Tennessee (j
>> ust
>> outside of Nashville).
>>
>> Is there anyone in the Middle Tennessee area building a Piet?
>>
>> Thanks for the varnishing advice. I=99m sanding down the structure af
>> ter the
>> last coat and trying to determine how much to do.
>>
>> Mark Roberts
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2 ____________________________
_________
>>
>>
>> Time: 12:33:10 PM PST US
>> From: John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com>
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFBpZXRlbnBvbC1MaXN0OiBJ4oCZbSBi
YWNrISBBbmQgdmE=?
>> =?UTF-8?B?cm5pc2hpbmcgdGhlIGZ1c2UuLi4gaG93IG1hbnkgY29hdHM/?
>>
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> For starters I would apply enough coats to fill the grain...I didn't do t
hat and
>> black mildew got in the pores which I had a hassle removing later. Secon
d,
>> you can use spar varnish except for places where the fabric will touch, t
hose
>> areas you should use a two-part epoxy varnish that MEK will not attack.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> John F.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Mark Roberts
>>
>> Sent: Sep 2, 2018 1:51 PM
>>
>>
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Im back! And varnishing the fuse... how many coa
ts?
>>
>>
>> Hello all!
>> After a little over six years of hibernation, I am beginning work on the P
iet again.
>> Weve been in a condominium for about four years, and this winter move to
>> a house with an oversize garage that will allow me to work on the plane.
>> When I had to stop working on the plane I had put one coat of varnish on t
he majority
>> of the structure, and in some places to coats.
>> When I had to stop working on plane I had put one coat of varnish on the m
ajority
>> of the structure, and some places to coach. As I return to the project, I
>> am wondering if the entire structure needs two coats of varnish or if one
coat
>> is sufficient in the rear of the airplane. Places that will see wear I wo
uld
>> imagine would require two coats or three.
>> What is the advice of the wise?
>> To all my West Coast Pieter friends, Im now in Smyrna Tennessee (just out
side of
>> Nashville).
>> Is there anyone in the Middle Tennessee area building a Piet?
>> Thanks for the varnishing advice. Im sanding down the structure after the
last
>> coat and trying to determine how much to do.
>> Mark Roberts
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 3 ____________________________
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>>
>>
>> Time: 12:37:55 PM PST US
>> From: John Klemin <jklemin@aol.com>
>> Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Pietenpol-List:_Re:_Pietenpol-List:_I=99m_ba?=
=?utf-8?Q?ck!_And_varnishing_the_fuse..._how_many_coats=3F?
>>
>>
>> There are two of us in Pleasantview
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 2, 2018, at 2:31 PM, John Franklin <jbfjr@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> For starters I would apply enough coats to fill the grain...I didn't do t
hat
>> and black mildew got in the pores which I had a hassle removing later. S
econd,
>> you can use spar varnish except for places where the fabric will touch, t
hose
>> areas you should use a two-part epoxy varnish that MEK will not attack.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> John F.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: Mark Roberts
>>>
>>> Sent: Sep 2, 2018 1:51 PM
>>>
>>> To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com"
>>>
>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Im back! And varnishing the fuse... how many co
ats?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello all!
>>> After a little over six years of hibernation, I am beginning work on the
Piet
>> again. Weve been in a condominium for about four years, and this winter m
ove
>> to a house with an oversize garage that will allow me to work on the plan
e.
>>> When I had to stop working on the plane I had put one coat of varnish on
the
>> majority of the structure, and in some places to coats.
>>> When I had to stop working on plane I had put one coat of varnish on the
majority
>> of the structure, and some places to coach. As I return to the project,
>> I am wondering if the entire structure needs two coats of varnish or if o
ne coat
>> is sufficient in the rear of the airplane. Places that will see wear I wo
uld
>> imagine would require two coats or three.
>>> What is the advice of the wise?
>>> To all my West Coast Pieter friends, Im now in Smyrna Tennessee (just ou
tside
>> of Nashville).
>>> Is there anyone in the Middle Tennessee area building a Piet?
>>> Thanks for the varnishing advice. Im sanding down the structure after th
e last
>> coat and trying to determine how much to do.
>>> Mark Roberts
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 4 ____________________________
_________
>>
>>
>> Time: 01:08:32 PM PST US
>> From: vic groah <vicgroah@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Pietenpol=2DList=3A_I=
99m_back=21_And_varnishing_the_f?
>> =?UTF-8?Q?use=2E=2E=2E_how_many_coats=3F?
>>
>> Mark. great to hear from you, It has been too long. Yes, some of us
>> westerners remember you. It does not seem that long you were in our shop
>> looking at our then going together Piet build. We miss you here out west
.
>> Hope the mid country is treating you well. Thanks for keeping in touch.
>> Vic Groah 414MV.
>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 11:55 AM Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wro
te:
>>>
>>> Hello all!
>>>
>>> After a little over six years of hibernation, I am beginning work on the
>>> Piet again. We=99ve been in a condominium for about four years, an
>> d this
>>> winter move to a house with an oversize garage that will allow me to wor
k
>>> on the plane.
>>>
>>> When I had to stop working on the plane I had put one coat of varnish on
>>> the majority of the structure, and in some places to coats.
>>>
>>> When I had to stop working on plane I had put one coat of varnish on the
>>> majority of the structure, and some places to coach. As I return to the
>>> project, I am wondering if the entire structure needs two coats of varni
s
>> h
>>> or if one coat is sufficient in the rear of the airplane. Places that wi
l
>> l
>>> see wear I would imagine would require two coats or three.
>>>
>>> What is the advice of the wise?
>>>
>>> To all my West Coast Pieter friends, I=99m now in Smyrna Tennessee
>> (just
>>> outside of Nashville).
>>>
>>> Is there anyone in the Middle Tennessee area building a Piet?
>>>
>>> Thanks for the varnishing advice. I=99m sanding down the structure
>> after the
>>> last coat and trying to determine how much to do.
>>>
>>> Mark Roberts
>>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 5 ____________________________
_________
>>
>>
>> Time: 02:12:28 PM PST US
>> From: Chris Tracy <catdesigns@att.net>
>> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Pietenpol-List:_I=99m_back!_And_va?= =?UT
F-8?Q?rnishing_the_fuse..._how_many_coats=3F?
>>
>>
>> In California I'm doing 2 coats, but we don't have much rain and humidity
.
>> =C2-
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Mark Roberts<mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wro
t
>> e: Hello all!
>> After a little over six years of hibernation, I am beginning work on the P
i
>> et again.=C2- We=99ve been in a condominium for about four years, a
>> nd this winter move to a house with an oversize garage that will allow me
t
>> o work on the plane.
>> When I had to stop working on the plane I had put one coat of varnish on t
h
>> e majority of the structure, and in some places to coats.=C2-
>> =C2-When I had to stop working on plane I had put one coat of varnish o
n
>> the majority of the structure, and some places to coach.=C2- As I retur
n
>> to the project, I am wondering if the entire structure needs two coats of
v
>> arnish or if one coat is sufficient in the rear of the airplane. Places t
ha
>> t will see wear I would imagine would require two coats or three.
>> What is the advice of the wise?
>> To all my West Coast Pieter friends, I=99m now in Smyrna Tennessee (j
>> ust outside of Nashville).
>> Is there anyone in the Middle Tennessee area building a Piet?
>> Thanks for the varnishing advice. I=99m sanding down the structure af
>> ter the last coat and trying to determine how much to do.
>> Mark Roberts
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 6 ____________________________
_________
>>
>>
>> Time: 02:51:07 PM PST US
>> From: Glen Schweizer <glenschweizer@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Pietenpol-List:_I=99m_back!_And_varnishing_t?=
=?utf-8?Q?he_fuse..._how_many_coats=3F?
>>
>>
>> About varnishing, first, I hope youre using something requiring the use o
f a hardener
>> Urethane or epoxy will show you the best chemical resistance, and of
>> the two urethane is better. Urethane is also better for u v (sunshine) r
esistance.
>>
>> Two coats of a good urethane is more than adequate to seal out moisture. N
o real
>> need for sanding between coats unless surface is dirty or for appearance c
oncerns.
>> 3coats with 320grit sanding between coats should make it look like a pian
o
>> Any varnish in contact with your chosen finishing system must be able to r
esist
>> that chemistry so check for compatibility .
>>> On Sep 2, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all!
>>>
>>> After a little over six years of hibernation, I am beginning work on the
Piet
>> again. Weve been in a condominium for about four years, and this winter m
ove
>> to a house with an oversize garage that will allow me to work on the plan
e.
>>>
>>> When I had to stop working on the plane I had put one coat of varnish on
the
>> majority of the structure, and in some places to coats.
>>>
>>> When I had to stop working on plane I had put one coat of varnish on the
majority
>> of the structure, and some places to coach. As I return to the project,
>> I am wondering if the entire structure needs two coats of varnish or if o
ne coat
>> is sufficient in the rear of the airplane. Places that will see wear I wo
uld
>> imagine would require two coats or three.
>>>
>>> What is the advice of the wise?
>>>
>>> To all my West Coast Pieter friends, Im now in Smyrna Tennessee (just ou
tside
>> of Nashville).
>>>
>>> Is there anyone in the Middle Tennessee area building a Piet?
>>>
>>> Thanks for the varnishing advice. Im sanding down the structure after th
e last
>> coat and trying to determine how much to do.
>>>
>>> Mark Roberts
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 7 ____________________________
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>>
>>
>> Time: 03:10:07 PM PST US
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?I=99m?= back! And varni
shing the fuse...
>> how m
>> From: "Mark Roberts" <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the replies thus far. I am using Man-o-war spar varnish to coa
t the
>> fuse.
>>
>> It appears that I will need to coat the edges that will touch the fabric w
ith a
>> top coat of urethane or epoxy to keep the varnish from being dissolved by
the
>> fabric covering installation...
>>
>> I have been out in the garage sanding today. After all the moves we've be
en through
>> over the last 7 years, I am trying to remember where I was in the process
.
>> It appears I didn't do a very good job getting all of the wood covered wh
ere
>> I thought I had. A few missed spots in corners and such. With all of the s
ticks
>> and angles, you have to be very careful to look at every nook and cranny!
>>
>> And Vic! So good to hear back from you. It was indeed your workshop in Vi
salia
>> where I first saw and sat in a Piet - yours - waiting on my plans set to a
rrive.
>> Tell Mike I said howdy. That picture is very nice!
>>
>> Restarting is more challenging than I thought, as I have to rebuild the m
omentum
>> - and belief that I will actually finish this project!
>>
>> Any other people using Man-O-War spar varnish to coat the wood? At the ti
me I was
>> painting this it was what was recommended I believe...
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482878#482878
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 8 ____________________________
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>>
>>
>> Time: 03:31:47 PM PST US
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?I=99m?= back! And varni
shing the fuse...
>> how m
>> From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Mark: not so fast on the chemical compatibility issue between your varnis
h and
>> the fabric covering system. Although I would want my fabric to be attach
ed directly
>> to clean bare wood, you should first decide which covering system you're
>> planning to use and then read their manual or directions on prepping the w
ood
>> for cover. The Stewart system uses water as the carrier for their cataly
zed
>> polyurethane in the covering process while the Poly-Fiber process uses VO
Cs as
>> the carrier. Once you decide on a covering system, you should be able to
ask
>> their product rep (typically a toll-free tech line) about compatibility w
ith
>> your particular varnish (alkyd resin Man-O-War) as well as getting recomm
endations
>> for surface prep. It may lower your work effort while still providing a
>> safe and durable fabric attachment to the wood. If, on the other hand, t
hey
>> recommend that you sand the varnish off the wood surfaces first, then jus
t put
>> on some music and prepare for hours of relaxing with some sandpaper and d
ust
>> ;o)
>>
>> --------
>> Oscar Zuniga
>> Medford, OR
>> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
>> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>>
>>
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>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482879#482879
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merclvr:
I teach a class at the AO Smith plant in Ashland City, not too far away from Pleasant
View. Drop me an email and perhaps we can connect along the way.
If there are a few of us in the area, we can swap ideas and get together like the
West Coast Piet group does... Perhaps a year off, but it would be good to have
a group locally to swap ideas, have breakfast, or help each other out if needed.
mark.rbrts1 (at) gmail.com
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how m
Hey Vic:
I went to call you today, and somehow your phone number dropped out of my phone.
I had Mike's, but missing yours. I was gonna call and just say hi and catch
up.
If you want, drop me your number via email (not here) at mark.rbrts1 (at) gmail.com
I tried to call Mike, but it ran to voice mail and it was full.
All the best,
Mark
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