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1. 02:33 AM - Re: Help with securing rib gussets (johnnysdrop)
2. 04:38 AM - Re: Help with securing rib gussets (Jack Philips)
3. 05:59 AM - Re: Help with securing rib gussets (Jack Textor)
4. 03:52 PM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (cdlwingnut)
5. 06:11 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/10/18 (Comcast)
6. 08:57 PM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (taildrags)
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| Subject: | Re: Help with securing rib gussets |
Hi Brian, just weight the gussets down, it works real well and doesn't perforate
the capping strip as does a nail!
I've used lead shot in aerosol can caps and very small dumbbell weights as examples,
I've also seen concrete in plastic caps used.
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| Subject: | Help with securing rib gussets |
It depends on what glue you are using. If using epoxy, as most do these
days, no nails are necessary other than to simply hold the gussets in
place
as the epoxy cures (as other have mentioned). Many people have used
staples
(and some will then go back and pry out the staples after the epoxy
cures).
If using resorcinol, it is necessary to have a clamping force of at
least 75
psi, which requires a nail about every =BE=94. I used resorcinol, and
used =BC=94
AN501 nails from Aircraft Spruce. These nails are brass plated.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP =93Icarus Plummet=94
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia, where we are digging out from Sunday=92s
14=94 of
snow
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donald
philbin
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 8:41 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Help with securing rib gussets
Champions of the aether;
I am once again returning to building some ribs after a long absence and
honestly I don't have that many to go (relatively speaking). Looking at
the
plans I see the notation "nailed and glued on both sides of wing rib
1/2" 20
ga nails".
Is anyone using brass plated "Escutcheon Pins"? Stainless nails? Help!
Any an all input is appreciated.
If you wish to reach me off list my email is:
donaldphilbin@hotmail.com <mailto:donaldphilbin@hotmail.com>
Thank you!
D.K. Philbin
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| Subject: | Re: Help with securing rib gussets |
Donald here is a pic showing my rib clamps
http://textors.com/RibClamps2.jpg
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPad
> On Dec 10, 2018, at 7:40 PM, Donald philbin <donaldphilbin@hotmail.com> wr
ote:
>
> Champions of the aether;
>
> I am once again returning to building some ribs after a long absence and h
onestly I don't have that many to go (relatively speaking). Looking at the p
lans I see the notation "nailed and glued on both sides of wing rib 1/2" 20 g
a nails".
>
> Is anyone using brass plated "Escutcheon Pins"? Stainless nails? Help!
>
> Any an all input is appreciated.
>
> If you wish to reach me off list my email is:
>
> donaldphilbin@hotmail.com
>
> Thank you!
>
> D.K. Philbin
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
Spars were jigged, checked for square. Ribs jigged and checked for square again.
T88 was mixed and applied. Once again checked for square. Then little tinny
nails tack hammered to nail the ribs to the spars while t88 dries. Checking for
square many more times in the process. The whole time thinking boy these nails
are small and i really really hope its square when done.
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/10/18 |
I used clamps only allowing 24 hour drying time.
- Rich
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> 1. 05:41 PM - Help with securing rib gussets (Donald philbin)
> 2. 06:43 PM - Re: Help with securing rib gussets (Brian Ahrens)
> 3. 07:48 PM - Re: Help with securing rib gussets (Semih Oksay)
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> Time: 05:41:25 PM PST US
> From: Donald philbin <donaldphilbin@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Help with securing rib gussets
>
> Champions of the aether;
>
> I am once again returning to building some ribs after a long absence and ho
> nestly I don't have that many to go (relatively speaking). Looking at the p
> lans I see the notation "nailed and glued on both sides of wing rib 1/2" 20
> ga nails".
>
> Is anyone using brass plated "Escutcheon Pins"? Stainless nails? Help!
>
> Any an all input is appreciated.
>
> If you wish to reach me off list my email is:
>
> donaldphilbin@hotmail.com
>
> Thank you!
>
> D.K. Philbin
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:43:11 PM PST US
> From: Brian Ahrens <btahrens@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Help with securing rib gussets
>
> I used 1/4=9D brass aircraft nails from Aircraft Spruce. They were ch
> eap
> enough and are resistant to corrosion. A bit tricky to handle due to their
> size but I found that a pair of spring action tweezers helped with that.
>
> Of course, you could always make do with no nails at all - the only thing
> they really do is hold the gussets in place while your glue dries. Using
> the nails means you don=99t have to leave the ribs clamped in place w
> hile
> waiting for the glue to tack. I considered doing without, but I calculated
> that the nails used in all of my ribs would add less than 1/4 lb to the
> total weight of my Pietenpol. A good trade off in my mind, all things
> considered.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Brian Ahrens
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 8:44 PM Donald philbin <donaldphilbin@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Champions of the aether;
>>
>> I am once again returning to building some ribs after a long absence and
>> honestly I don't have that many to go (relatively speaking). Looking at t
> he
>> plans I see the notation "nailed and glued on both sides of wing rib 1/2"
>> 20 ga nails".
>>
>> Is anyone using brass plated "Escutcheon Pins"? Stainless nails? Help!
>>
>> Any an all input is appreciated.
>>
>> If you wish to reach me off list my email is:
>>
>> donaldphilbin@hotmail.com
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> D.K. Philbin
>>
>>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
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>
> Time: 07:48:38 PM PST US
> From: Semih Oksay <semihoksay@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Help with securing rib gussets
>
> I used no nails at all. I used common pins nailing them lightly and removed
> them after epoxy sets.
>
> Semih Oksay
> Istanbul, Turkey
>
>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 5:45 AM Brian Ahrens <btahrens@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I used 1/4=9D brass aircraft nails from Aircraft Spruce. They were
> cheap
>> enough and are resistant to corrosion. A bit tricky to handle due to thei
> r
>> size but I found that a pair of spring action tweezers helped with that.
>>
>> Of course, you could always make do with no nails at all - the only thing
>> they really do is hold the gussets in place while your glue dries. Using
>> the nails means you don=99t have to leave the ribs clamped in place
> while
>> waiting for the glue to tack. I considered doing without, but I calculate
> d
>> that the nails used in all of my ribs would add less than 1/4 lb to the
>> total weight of my Pietenpol. A good trade off in my mind, all things
>> considered.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Brian Ahrens
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 8:44 PM Donald philbin <donaldphilbin@hotmail.com
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Champions of the aether;
>>>
>>> I am once again returning to building some ribs after a long absence and
>>> honestly I don't have that many to go (relatively speaking). Looking at
> the
>>> plans I see the notation "nailed and glued on both sides of wing rib 1/2
> "
>>> 20 ga nails".
>>>
>>> Is anyone using brass plated "Escutcheon Pins"? Stainless nails? Help!
>>>
>>> Any an all input is appreciated.
>>>
>>> If you wish to reach me off list my email is:
>>>
>>> donaldphilbin@hotmail.com
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> D.K. Philbin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Semih Oksay
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
Cdlwingnut: does the Ultra-Piet have full-span ailerons? The rib tails all look
like they are set up to be cut out to make ailerons.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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