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1. 04:47 PM - Re: No progress on Piet BUT (Steven Dortch)
2. 04:49 PM - Re: No progress on Piet BUT (John Weber)
3. 04:52 PM - Re: No progress on Piet BUT (Bryan Nelson)
4. 08:04 PM - Re: No progress on Piet BUT (taildrags)
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| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
Well, my last short field landing was bad!
But not so bad that I failed. I am America's newset CFI!
On Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 11:40 AM William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
> If he attempts to fail you on such a silly thing, make sure you ask him t
o
> show you where in the reg=99s or in writing where it says that. It
has to be
> in writing.
> They cannot make it up as they go. Then as I did, =9CI would like t
o talk
> with your supervisor.=9D I didn=99t fail but he was trying to
tell me wrong
> information. His opinion.
> When I asked him to prove it he got a little testy and said he might just
> decide that I shouldn=99t pass after already debriefing and congrat
ulating
> me. They hold the key
> to your airplane, but DON=99T let them feed you any BS. Side note:
I was a
> check airman with the airlines. My first time failing a pilot, was our PO
I.
> FAA guy. You know what they
> say about payback.. Felt goood! he was a nice guy, but you call
them as
> you see them. It was "clean kill=9D
>
> You could say =9CI would really appreciate it if you would show me
the
> correct way to do it sir"
>
>
> You=99ll be fine. Just have fun.
>
>
> On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:07, Jack Philips <jack@bedfordlandings.com> wrote:
>
> Steve, The CFI checkride is the only one I=99ve ever failed. Turn
s out,
> the Greensboro FSDO has an unwritten policy that NOBODY passes the CFI
> checkride on their first attempt. They don=99t want a bunch of coc
ky
> instructors running around. So they humble you.
>
> I had gone all through the checkride nearly flawlessly, until the very
> last item =93 a short field takeoff. I was flying a Cherokee Arrow
on a hot
> day and the darn thing just wouldn=99t climb. The examiner failed
me because
> I didn=99t retract the gear immediately, helping it to climb. Of c
ourse, had
> I retracted the gear immediately he would have failed me for retracting t
he
> gear before I had established a positive rate of climb. They=99ll
get you
> either way. The good news is, when I went back (after =9Cremedial
> instruction=9D), all I had to demonstrate was one short field takeo
ff and I
> got the ticket.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Jack Phillips, CFI, CFII
> Pietenpol NX899JP, currently flying
> RV-10 N142KW, heading to the paint shop =93 should fly within a mon
th.
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [
> mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> <owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Steven Dortch
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:34 AM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: No progress on Piet BUT
>
> I have personally stalled out on my Piet restoration. Several reasons, bu
t
> none really sufficient.
>
> However, I can sure use your prayers, I do my CFI check ride Tuesday! I a
m
> ready but quite nervous. The CFI check ride had the highest failure rate
of
> them all.
>
> Upon getting my CFI I will refocus on finishing my Piet and moving it to
> my current hangar.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
Congratulations! John Weber
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 9, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com> wrot
e:
>
> Well, my last short field landing was bad!
>
> But not so bad that I failed. I am America's newset CFI!
>
>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 11:40 AM William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If he attempts to fail you on such a silly thing, make sure you ask him t
o show you where in the reg=99s or in writing where it says that. It h
as to be in writing.
>> They cannot make it up as they go. Then as I did, =9CI would like t
o talk with your supervisor.=9D I didn=99t fail but he was tryin
g to tell me wrong information. His opinion.
>> When I asked him to prove it he got a little testy and said he might just
decide that I shouldn=99t pass after already debriefing and congratul
ating me. They hold the key
>> to your airplane, but DON=99T let them feed you any BS. Side note: I
was a check airman with the airlines. My first time failing a pilot, was ou
r POI. FAA guy. You know what they
>> say about payback.. Felt goood! he was a nice guy, but you call t
hem as you see them. It was "clean kill=9D
>>
>> You could say =9CI would really appreciate it if you would show me t
he correct way to do it sir"
>>
>>
>> You=99ll be fine. Just have fun.
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:07, Jack Philips <jack@bedfordlandings.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Steve, The CFI checkride is the only one I=99ve ever failed. Tur
ns out, the Greensboro FSDO has an unwritten policy that NOBODY passes the C
FI checkride on their first attempt. They don=99t want a bunch of coc
ky instructors running around. So they humble you.
>>>
>>> I had gone all through the checkride nearly flawlessly, until the very l
ast item =93 a short field takeoff. I was flying a Cherokee Arrow on a
hot day and the darn thing just wouldn=99t climb. The examiner faile
d me because I didn=99t retract the gear immediately, helping it to cl
imb. Of course, had I retracted the gear immediately he would have failed m
e for retracting the gear before I had established a positive rate of climb.
They=99ll get you either way. The good news is, when I went back (a
fter =9Cremedial instruction=9D), all I had to demonstrate was o
ne short field takeoff and I got the ticket.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Jack Phillips, CFI, CFII
>>> Pietenpol NX899JP, currently flying
>>> RV-10 N142KW, heading to the paint shop =93 should fly within a mo
nth.
>>>
>>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-
list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Dortch
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:34 AM
>>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: No progress on Piet BUT
>>>
>>> I have personally stalled out on my Piet restoration. Several reasons, b
ut none really sufficient.
>>>
>>> However, I can sure use your prayers, I do my CFI check ride Tuesday! I a
m ready but quite nervous. The CFI check ride had the highest failure rate o
f them all.
>>>
>>> Upon getting my CFI I will refocus on finishing my Piet and moving it to
my current hangar.
>>
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| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
Congratulations!!!
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 9, 2019, at 18:46, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, my last short field landing was bad!
>
> But not so bad that I failed. I am America's newset CFI!
>
>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 11:40 AM William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If he attempts to fail you on such a silly thing, make sure you ask him t
o show you where in the reg=99s or in writing where it says that. It h
as to be in writing.
>> They cannot make it up as they go. Then as I did, =9CI would like t
o talk with your supervisor.=9D I didn=99t fail but he was tryin
g to tell me wrong information. His opinion.
>> When I asked him to prove it he got a little testy and said he might just
decide that I shouldn=99t pass after already debriefing and congratul
ating me. They hold the key
>> to your airplane, but DON=99T let them feed you any BS. Side note: I
was a check airman with the airlines. My first time failing a pilot, was ou
r POI. FAA guy. You know what they
>> say about payback.. Felt goood! he was a nice guy, but you call t
hem as you see them. It was "clean kill=9D
>>
>> You could say =9CI would really appreciate it if you would show me t
he correct way to do it sir"
>>
>>
>> You=99ll be fine. Just have fun.
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:07, Jack Philips <jack@bedfordlandings.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Steve, The CFI checkride is the only one I=99ve ever failed. Tur
ns out, the Greensboro FSDO has an unwritten policy that NOBODY passes the C
FI checkride on their first attempt. They don=99t want a bunch of coc
ky instructors running around. So they humble you.
>>>
>>> I had gone all through the checkride nearly flawlessly, until the very l
ast item =93 a short field takeoff. I was flying a Cherokee Arrow on a
hot day and the darn thing just wouldn=99t climb. The examiner faile
d me because I didn=99t retract the gear immediately, helping it to cl
imb. Of course, had I retracted the gear immediately he would have failed m
e for retracting the gear before I had established a positive rate of climb.
They=99ll get you either way. The good news is, when I went back (a
fter =9Cremedial instruction=9D), all I had to demonstrate was o
ne short field takeoff and I got the ticket.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Jack Phillips, CFI, CFII
>>> Pietenpol NX899JP, currently flying
>>> RV-10 N142KW, heading to the paint shop =93 should fly within a mo
nth.
>>>
>>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-
list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Dortch
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:34 AM
>>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: No progress on Piet BUT
>>>
>>> I have personally stalled out on my Piet restoration. Several reasons, b
ut none really sufficient.
>>>
>>> However, I can sure use your prayers, I do my CFI check ride Tuesday! I a
m ready but quite nervous. The CFI check ride had the highest failure rate o
f them all.
>>>
>>> Upon getting my CFI I will refocus on finishing my Piet and moving it to
my current hangar.
>>
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| Subject: | Re: No progress on Piet BUT |
You da man, Steve! Now can I get a little bit of dual tailwheel time from you,
maybe some x-wind landings, wheel landings, and simulated dead-stick landings
on one of those breezy, gusty, bumpy south Texas afternoons when even the buzzards
are crabbing to their landings to fresh roadkill?
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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