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1. 12:04 AM - Re: Basho-journey (Clif Dawson)
2. 12:13 AM - Re: Basho-journey (William Geipel)
3. 01:44 AM - Re: Basho-journey (Jack Textor)
4. 05:50 AM - Re: Basho-journey (jarheadpilot82)
5. 06:51 AM - Re: Basho-journey (Glen Schweizer)
6. 01:11 PM - Re: Basho-journey (tkreiner)
7. 01:44 PM - Re: Re: Basho-journey (Glen Schweizer)
8. 07:02 PM - Re: Basho-journey (jarheadpilot82)
9. 08:38 PM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (cdlwingnut)
10. 09:06 PM - Re: Basho-journey (taildrags)
11. 09:26 PM - Re: Re: Basho-journey (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
Yes I did. Now for the final finishing.
Oh, it's 76" dia., Birch.
Shape is copy of Paragon prop used
on many of the Jenny's.
Clif.
That is quite the propeller. Did you make it?
Chris
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=9CThe journey,=9D wrote Bash=C5=8D, =9Citself is
my home.=9D
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| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
my kind of guy. Chainsaw!!
> On Jun 24, 2019, at 16:04, Clif Dawson <cdawson5854@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> Yes I did. Now for the final finishing.
> Oh, it's 76" dia., Birch.
> Shape is copy of Paragon prop used
> on many of the Jenny's.
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> Clif.
>> That is quite the propeller. Did you make it?
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>> Chris
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=9Citself is my home.=9D
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| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
Really coming along Cliff!
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPad
> On Jun 24, 2019, at 12:41 AM, Clif Dawson <cdawson5854@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> =9CThe journey,=9D wrote Bash=C5=8D, =9Citself is my ho
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| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
Cliff,
Your prop looks nice, but I had just a few questions. Maybe no one has asked you,
but I thought that I should -
1. Is that solid tubing line shown arcing down your actual fuel line, or is that
temporary set up? In the event of an off-field landing, I am concerned that
the line as built will fail, showering any front seat passenger with fuel. What
are your thoughts on that?
2. Have you done at least a preliminary weight and balance? Your cabanes appear
to be vertical, with a lighter Continental engine. That combination typically
puts a pilot at or beyond the aft CG limit of 20 inches that Bernard Pietenpol
himself said was the furthest aft the CG should ever be.
3. Where is the center of your axle in relation to the datum (the leading edge)?
I can't really tell from the photo.
4. Have you considered the strength of your diagonal cabanes in the event of the
possible off-field landing I mentioned earlier? They don't appear to be strong
enough to survive the force of an off-field landing and they could collapse
much like William Wynne's aircraft did at the time of his accident.
https://flycorvair.net/2013/12/19/pietenpol-fuel-lines-and-cabanes/
https://flycorvair.net/2013/12/20/fuel-lines-and-cabanes-part-2/
I hope that you will take the questions in the spirit that they are given. Your
craftsmanship is very good. I am just wondering if you have looked at worst case
scenarios in some of your design decisions.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
Beautiful prop. Is that a 65 or 85 horse continental?
> On Jun 23, 2019, at 10:41 PM, Clif Dawson <cdawson5854@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> =9CThe journey,=9D wrote Bash=C5=8D, =9Citself is my ho
me.=9D
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| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
Guys,
The engine is a Lycoming, NOT a Continental; displacement, weight, and Hp all unknown
to us...
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Tom Kreiner
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| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
I thought it was cont. flywheel and starter mounting says lycoming
> On Jun 24, 2019, at 1:10 PM, tkreiner <tkreiner@gmail.com> wrote:
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> The engine is a Lycoming, NOT a Continental; displacement, weight, and Hp all
unknown to us...
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| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
Tom,
Okay, I stand corrected. By the question is the same - has a good weight and balance
been done? The other questions still stand, regardless of power plant.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
i opened up the can of varnish and put a coat on the upper part of the center section
and the inside of the leading edge plywood piece that has been clamped
to the leading edge to form.
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| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
To those with questions about Clif Dawson's airplane or his work, I would recommend
spending some time reviewing the photos of it that are on Westcoastpiet.com
in the Pictures section, under Clif's name. Or, if you want to learn about
tools and techniques and a bit about philosophy and life, take the time to go
through the build photos and narratives that Clif has generously and thoughtfully
shared with the world on his website, here-
http://www.clifdawson.ca/Homepage4-10-06/Pietenpol.html . The engine is a Lycoming O-290, and knowing Clif, my guess is that it's placed right where he wants it.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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| Subject: | Re: Basho-journey |
Ah, Boys, yes they do.
So, That thing is an O-290. It weighs pretty damn close to the original
model A
when you add in water and radiator.
The preliminary W&B, with my weight and calculated fabric and paint weight
and location factored in I'm looking at a CG of 18". Passenger and fuel
hardly
matter as they're both so close to the CG, less than another half inch. If
I
REALLY wanted to it would be nothing to push the wing back a half inch or
so.
Now, the fuel line. Why did I route it in that straight, gentle curve from
the
tank to the mounting bracket just inside the engine cowl? Well, I did read
William's account when he first wrote it. If I was to encounter that brick
wall
scenario and the wing did collapse foreward that soft line will "roll" and
bend
foreward without breaking or rupturing except possibly at the support
foreward
of the firewall. Also the fuel tank shut off is just above the windscreen
with
a really big knob staring right at me in easy reach without even leaning
foreward.
Would I not reach for that as soon as the big cooling fan quit turning and
I'd
exhausted all the restart options? Assuming I'm in the pilots seat unlike
William.
The foreward diagonals have been geometrically designed to direct any
collapsing force right down the center line of the tubes and all three bolt
connections. Those tubes are heavy walled as well. Again, thought out
after that nose dive. It would be somewhat difficult to weld the wood
cabanes. :-)
Clif
> <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
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> Tom,
>
> Okay, I stand corrected. By the question is the same - has a good weight
> and balance been done? The other questions still stand, regardless of
> power plant.
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> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
> Athens, GA
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