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3. 06:54 PM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (cdlwingnut)
4. 08:01 PM - Re: ELT Recommendation (taildrags)
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| Subject: | Re: ELT Recommendation |
Thank you Oscar. I want something cheap to meet the requirements...I plan
to also have on me a personal locating beacon if venturing a way from my ho
me base.=C2-
On Thursday, June 27, 2019, 11:34:37 PM EDT, taildrags <taildrags@hotma
il.com> wrote:
Mike; my Air Camper has a Narco ELT, I believe it's the ELT-10, 121.5 Mhz o
nly, one of the simplest and most ubiquitous ELTs from days gone by.=C2-
It has its own little fold-out antenna so it could ostensibly be removed fr
om the airplane after a crash and used as a personal-carry locator with the
antenna extended.=C2- The battery has a mandatory 2-yr replacement and a
battery costs $34.50 from Chief Aircraft and others.=C2- I test it regul
arly and it works, but I have as much expectation of anyone ever locating i
t or my downed aircraft as I do of winning the Powerball this Saturday.=C2
- I installed it and maintain it on the aircraft to meet the requirement
that an operational ELT be carried onboard my 2-place aircraft.=C2- I don
't believe that an ELT is required for single-place aircraft like the Sky S
cout.
When I got 41CC, Corky had the ELT installed on the floorboard all the way
up between the passenger's rudder pedals, and from every recommendation tha
t I've ever seen, that is not a good location.=C2- Best location is behin
d the rear seat in the empennage, securely mounted to the structure, so tha
t's where I moved it to after my airplane went over on its nose and I had t
o rebuild things.=C2- I mounted a flat piece of aluminum on the bottom in
side the empennage where I can inspect it and reach the test switch by open
ing the access door in the headrest area, and then mounted a fixed ELT whip
antenna to that ground plane and connected the ELT using the BNC connector
and a short piece of coax.=C2- My understanding is that the tailcone of
an aircraft usually stays intact in a crash even thought the firewall forwa
rd, cockpit, wings, and gear may not.=C2- Also, an engine fire is not as
likely to spread to the tailcone.=C2- Or so they say.
I found that the original ELT in the airplane wouldn't have activated in th
e nose-over anyway... battery corrosion had eaten up a lot of the electroni
cs and battery terminals inside it when I opened it to inspect why it hadn'
t gone off.=C2- It looked good on the outside, but did nothing useful.=C2
- I suppose if you want an ELT that will actually do some good locating y
our downed airplane, you should get one that works on 406Mhz where the sate
llites are listening.=C2- Nobody listens to 121.5 anymore.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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| Subject: | Re: ELT Recommendation |
Mike, you might touch base with a DAR in your area before you buy a 121.5
ELT. My understanding is that the FAA no longer permits a signoff on new
installations of those.
Besides, if you ever do end up in a situation where the ELT could save your
life, having one that can actually help do that may seem like a pretty good
investment. You might not be able to reach or activate a PLB.
I've had something like that experience.
Here's the short version of the story. Four years ago, after my engine quit
in flight, I landed in a cornfield and came to rest upside down. Within a
minute or two, I received a call from the ELT folks checking on the status
of my airplane and me. They knew precisely my location. In fact, I had
just started inspecting the damage when the call came in. As it happens, I
was unhurt. So in this instance, I suppose it didn't matter that I had a
new style 406 ELT. But the value of one became very clear. Now, I
wouldn't fly without it.
Cheers, Ken
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 6:53 AM Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> Thank you Oscar. I want something cheap to meet the requirements...I plan
> to also have on me a personal locating beacon if venturing a way from my
> home base.
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2019, 11:34:37 PM EDT, taildrags <
> taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Mike; my Air Camper has a Narco ELT, I believe it's the ELT-10, 121.5 Mhz
> only, one of the simplest and most ubiquitous ELTs from days gone by. It
> has its own little fold-out antenna so it could ostensibly be removed from
> the airplane after a crash and used as a personal-carry locator with the
> antenna extended. The battery has a mandatory 2-yr replacement and a
> battery costs $34.50 from Chief Aircraft and others. I test it regularly
> and it works, but I have as much expectation of anyone ever locating it or
> my downed aircraft as I do of winning the Powerball this Saturday. I
> installed it and maintain it on the aircraft to meet the requirement that
> an operational ELT be carried onboard my 2-place aircraft. I don't believe
> that an ELT is required for single-place aircraft like the Sky Scout.
>
> When I got 41CC, Corky had the ELT installed on the floorboard all the way
> up between the passenger's rudder pedals, and from every recommendation
> that I've ever seen, that is not a good location. Best location is behind
> the rear seat in the empennage, securely mounted to the structure, so
> that's where I moved it to after my airplane went over on its nose and I
> had to rebuild things. I mounted a flat piece of aluminum on the bottom
> inside the empennage where I can inspect it and reach the test switch by
> opening the access door in the headrest area, and then mounted a fixed ELT
> whip antenna to that ground plane and connected the ELT using the BNC
> connector and a short piece of coax. My understanding is that the tailcone
> of an aircraft usually stays intact in a crash even thought the firewall
> forward, cockpit, wings, and gear may not. Also, an engine fire is not as
> likely to spread to the tailcone. Or so they say.
>
> I found that the original ELT in the airplane wouldn't have activated in
> the nose-over anyway... battery corrosion had eaten up a lot of the
> electronics and battery terminals inside it when I opened it to inspect why
> it hadn't gone off. It looked good on the outside, but did nothing
> useful. I suppose if you want an ELT that will actually do some good
> locating your downed airplane, you should get one that works on 406Mhz
> where the satellites are listening. Nobody listens to 121.5 anymore.
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489893#489893
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
the middle piece of plywood is cut, soaked and clamped onto the leading edge to
form. I messed one piece up by cutting it too short so now have to order another
piece. I did some more varnishing as well
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| Subject: | Re: ELT Recommendation |
The rule was implemented Jan. 11 of this year but with a 6-month transition period
so that vendors could deplete their inventory. After that expires (soon-!),
the manufacture, importation, or sale of 121.5 Mhz ELTs will be prohibited.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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