Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Mon 11/04/19


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 05:16 AM - Re: Cut-out for torque tube-and strut question (echobravo4)
     2. 07:59 AM - Bending rib capstrips -- Again! (tsts4)
     3. 08:14 AM - Re: Cut-out for torque tube-and strut question (taildrags)
     4. 08:37 AM - Re: Bending rib capstrips -- Again! (Glen Schweizer)
     5. 09:07 AM - Re: Bending rib capstrips -- Again! (tsts4)
     6. 09:48 AM - Re: Re: Bending rib capstrips -- Again! (Brian Jardine)
     7. 10:20 AM - Re: Bending rib capstrips -- Again! (tsts4)
     8. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: Bending rib capstrips -- Again! (Chris Tracy)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:16:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cut-out for torque tube-and strut question
    From: "echobravo4" <eab4@comcast.net>
    yes, they can be removed if I use the front cockpit for gear. -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492337#492337


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    Time: 07:59:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Bending rib capstrips -- Again!
    From: "tsts4" <tsts4us@gmail.com>
    Guys, I'm doing research on potentially building an Aircamper with the original wing. The Piet Aircraft Company, on their website, states that no steaming (and I assume that implies or soaking) is required to build a wing rib. However, an internet search seems to indicate that everyone, or at least almost everyone, either steams or soaks the top rib capstrip. As a noob who knows nothing about wood construction (I built an RV-10), is this a classic case of "theory" vs practical reality? By that I mean that while it's possible to place the top capstrip in the rib jig without it breaking that more often than not it will so best practice is if you don't want to keep buying capstrip material is to either stream or soak them and place into a separate bending jig before moving to the rib jig? My apologies if this has been asked a 1000 times before. -------- Todd Stovall aka Auburntsts on EAA, AOPA, and VAF RV-10 N728TT -- Flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492340#492340


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    Time: 08:14:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cut-out for torque tube-and strut question
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Earl; my front cockpit shoulder harness and lap belt are also removable, via clip-on attachments. The belt and harness are military surplus. I keep them removed unless I'm going to be taking a passenger, because otherwise the belt gets in the way of my feet (rudder and brakes). Good idea. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492341#492341


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    Time: 08:37:09 AM PST US
    From: Glen Schweizer <glenschweizer@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Bending rib capstrips -- Again!
    Boiling capstrip material for twenty minutes makes strips bend like wet spaghetti. Clamped between a wooden form for a couple of days to dry gives a no stress top rib . The form is easily made on a bandsaw from a piece of 4x6 scrap. Cut the shape of the rib from front spar forward and you have it. > On Nov 4, 2019, at 8:14 AM, tsts4 <tsts4us@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Guys, > I'm doing research on potentially building an Aircamper with the original wing. The Piet Aircraft Company, on their website, states that no steaming (and I assume that implies or soaking) is required to build a wing rib. However, an internet search seems to indicate that everyone, or at least almost everyone, either steams or soaks the top rib capstrip. As a noob who knows nothing about wood construction (I built an RV-10), is this a classic case of "theory" vs practical reality? By that I mean that while it's possible to place the top capstrip in the rib jig without it breaking that more often than not it will so best practice is if you don't want to keep buying capstrip material is to either stream or soak them and place into a separate bending jig before moving to the rib jig? My apologies if this has been asked a 1000 times before. > > -------- > Todd Stovall > aka Auburntsts on EAA, AOPA, and VAF > RV-10 N728TT -- Flying > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492340#492340 > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:07:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bending rib capstrips -- Again!
    From: "tsts4" <tsts4us@gmail.com>
    glen wrote: > Boiling capstrip material for twenty minutes makes strips bend like wet spaghetti. Clamped between a wooden form for a couple of days to dry gives a no stress top rib . The form is easily made on a bandsaw from a piece of 4x6 scrap. Cut the shape of the rib from front spar forward and you have it. > > Thanks for the info. However I'm less interested in the "how" as there's lots of info on that. My question is more basic: Is pre-bending of the top capstrips necessary? -------- Todd Stovall aka Auburntsts on EAA, AOPA, and VAF RV-10 N728TT -- Flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492344#492344


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    Time: 09:48:27 AM PST US
    From: Brian Jardine <Brian.Jardine@Plexus.com>
    Subject: Re: Bending rib capstrips -- Again!
    Todd, Yes pre-bending is necessary. I tried both ways on my Piet ribs and if you don't soak or steam the cap-strips they will snap. Brian -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tsts4 Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 10:07 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Bending rib capstrips -- Again! [EXTERNAL] This email was sent from outside of Plexus. Use caution when opening attachments or links from unknown senders. . glen wrote: > Boiling capstrip material for twenty minutes makes strips bend like wet spaghetti. Clamped between a wooden form for a couple of days to dry gives a no stress top rib ???. The form is easily made on a bandsaw from a piece of 4x6 scrap. Cut the shape of the rib from front spar forward and you have it. > > Thanks for the info. However I'm less interested in the "how" as there's lots of info on that. My question is more basic: Is pre-bending of the top capstrips necessary? -------- Todd Stovall aka Auburntsts on EAA, AOPA, and VAF RV-10 N728TT -- Flying Read this topic online here: https://ddei3-0-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=http%3a%2f%2fforums.matronics.com%2fviewtopic.php%3fp%3d492344%23492344&umid=4DFC2B9D-9688-6C05-876F-07CAD98CDE9F&auth=a79cf964896a44925c32628edeb2301b3739bcef-d312b63fd9e0812a243b90a394f42983e8bd7454


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    Time: 10:20:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Bending rib capstrips -- Again!
    From: "tsts4" <tsts4us@gmail.com>
    Brian.Jardine(at)Plexus.c wrote: > Todd, > Yes pre-bending is necessary. I tried both ways on my Piet ribs and if you don't soak or steam the cap-strips they will snap. > > Brian > -- Thanks Brian! That's question #2 off my list answered - only about a thousand more to go and I might be ready to buy the plans! -------- Todd Stovall aka Auburntsts on EAA, AOPA, and VAF RV-10 N728TT -- Flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492351#492351


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    Time: 05:41:33 PM PST US
    From: Chris Tracy <catdesigns@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Bending rib capstrips -- Again!
    =C2-Yes Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 9:07 AM, tsts4<tsts4us@gmail.com> wrote: --> Pie tenpol-List message posted by: "tsts4" <tsts4us@gmail.com> glen wrote: > Boiling capstrip material for twenty minutes makes strips bend like wet s paghetti. Clamped between a wooden form for a couple of days to dry gives a no stress top rib =C3=B0=C5=B8=CB=9C=C6=92. The form is easily made on a b andsaw from a piece of 4x6 scrap. Cut the shape of the rib from front spar forward and you have it. > > Thanks for the info.=C2- However I'm less interested in the "how" as ther e's lots of info on that. My question is more basic:=C2- Is pre-bending o f the top capstrips necessary? -------- Todd Stovall aka Auburntsts on EAA, AOPA, and VAF RV-10 N728TT -- Flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=492344#492344 =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. S - WIKI - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.




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