---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 11/26/19: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:17 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/25/19 (Semih Oksay) 2. 12:08 PM - Ground Lead (P lead) for Eisemann Magnetos (Timothy White) 3. 12:21 PM - Re: Ground Lead (P lead) for Eisemann Magnetos (tsts4) 4. 12:36 PM - Re: Re: Ground Lead (P lead) for Eisemann Magnetos (Timothy White) 5. 12:46 PM - Re: Ground Lead (P lead) for Eisemann Magnetos (tsts4) 6. 03:57 PM - Re: Ground Lead (P lead) for Eisemann Magnetos (taildrags) 7. 07:08 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/25/19 (taildrags) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:17:26 AM PST US From: Semih Oksay Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/25/19 Hi Todd The reason for my running the cable from rear cockpit is simply the length of the cable. Since it is originally a marine cable, I could't find anything short enough for the front cockpit. Later on when I visited Ben Charvet, I found out he did the same with a different reason: Flying the aircraft from the rear seat, he did not want any extra linkages and joins in the way. To me a very very logical argument. Cheers Semih Oksay, building in Istanbul, Turkey, now in Orlando, Fl On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 2:46 AM Pietenpol-List Digest Server < pietenpol-list@matronics.com> wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. 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(Matt Dralle) > 1. 06:11 AM - Re: throttle setup (Semih Oksay) > 2. 07:36 AM - Performance (Bruce Kirk) > 3. 11:14 AM - Re: throttle setup (tsts4) > > > ________________________________ Message 0 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:09:56 AM PST US > From: Matt Dralle > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Make Sure You're Listed! > > > Dear Listers, > > The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner with just few > more days > in this year's Fund Raiser! Later in December I will post a list of > everyone > that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists this year. 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Remember that its YOUR support > that > keeps these Lists running and improving! > > Thank you! > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Administrator > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:11:21 AM PST US > From: Semih Oksay > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: throttle setup > > Hi Oscar > > I made my throttle levers as in the picture. Front and rear are identical, > connected with solid rod. A bowden cable, actually marine throttle or > gearshift linkage, runs from the rear lever to the carb, inside wall of the > cockpits. The size of the bowden is the same as the piper's, but since it > is marine, it is all in stainless steel. > > Cheers > > Semih Oksay, Istanbul, Turkey (Now in Orlando,Fl) > > On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 2:42 PM taildrags wrote: > > > > > G'day, Pietenpolers; > > > > In an effort to get a Piet thread bumped to the top of the topics list > > instead of the annual list support threads (I already made my annual > > contribution to Matronics, thank you Matt), I'm throwing out a general > > question about throttle setups. I don't like the setup on my airplane > and > > am going to start from scratch. To describe what I have, it's a Bowden > > cable running from the rear cockpit to the carb. In the front cockpit, a > > wooden sewing thread bobbin with the edges rounded off has been slipped > > over the center wire with bug nuts clamping each side of it to the center > > wire to let the front cockpit occupant slide it back and forth to work > the > > throttle. The setup looks pretty cheesy, but since it's tucked in pretty > > tight under the top edge of the cockpit, I've never had a passenger snag > it > > or bump it while getting in or out. Other than that, not much else good > > about it. > > > > In the rear cockpit, a simple flat aluminum lever with the pivot point at > > the bottom and a round knob up near the top coaming works the throttle. > > It's pretty cheesy too, but what I like is that I can rest my left hand > on > > the coaming and use my fingertips to work the throttle. It's very stable > > and easy to make small changes in engine power that way, especially on a > > bumpy afternoon. Since the knob is up near the coaming rather than down > > further, I can also reach in and work the throttle very easily from > outside > > the cockpit while prop-starting. It also has enough friction and drag in > > the cables and lever where I can set throttle in cruise and rarely have > it > > back off or creep off of the RPM that I want. > > > > So what I'm looking for are pix or ideas on how you set up your > > throttle(s). I've looked through some of the setups in Westcoastpiet. > > I've already decided to link the front and rear throttles with a rod > rather > > than with the Bowden cable, but other than that, I'm open to ideas. The > > builder routed the throttle cable inside the cockpit, not outside between > > the plywood and fabric, so I can get to all of it if I choose to. > Thanks. > > > > Oscar Zuniga > > Medford, OR > > > > -------- > > Oscar Zuniga > > Medford, OR > > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > > A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=493401#493401 > > > > > > -- > Semih Oksay > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:36:03 AM PST US > From: Bruce Kirk > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Performance > > > Hi everyone I have a question about the performance of a pietenpol > operating at > airports at airports at an elevation of 3000 plus feet with an A65 engine. > Sent from my iPhone > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:14:59 AM PST US > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: throttle setup > From: "tsts4" > > > Semih, was there a particular reason you ran your Bowden cable from the > rear throttle > lever instead of the front lever? > > -------- > Todd Stovall > aka "Auburntsts" on EAA and VAF > RV-10 N728TT -- Flying > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=493464#493464 > > -- Semih Oksay ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:08:36 PM PST US From: Timothy White Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ground Lead (P lead) for Eisemann Magnetos Trying to get my rebuilt C-85 running using the rebuilt Eisemann mags that came with it. Was able to get the spark plug wires from ACS, but cant find any p leads for them. Any ideas? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:21:03 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ground Lead (P lead) for Eisemann Magnetos From: "tsts4" Can you just make them? Im not familiar with Eisemann mags but typical p-leads are just a length of shielded wire with ring terminals attached to the wire and the shield. -------- Todd Stovall aka "Auburntsts" on EAA and VAF RV-10 N728TT -- Flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=493497#493497 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:21 PM PST US From: Timothy White Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ground Lead (P lead) for Eisemann Magnetos They have a cap and lm guessing a rigid section that makes a solid contact inside the mag like a Bendix. Ive tried the Bendix leads, but the cap wont fit. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 26, 2019, at 3:20 PM, tsts4 wrote: > > > Can you just make them? Im not familiar with Eisemann mags but typical p-leads are just a length of shielded wire with ring terminals attached to the wire and the shield. > > -------- > Todd Stovall > aka "Auburntsts" on EAA and VAF > RV-10 N728TT -- Flying > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=493497#493497 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:41 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ground Lead (P lead) for Eisemann Magnetos From: "tsts4" Gotcha. Do you know the diameter of the cap size you need? -------- Todd Stovall aka "Auburntsts" on EAA and VAF RV-10 N728TT -- Flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=493500#493500 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:57:51 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ground Lead (P lead) for Eisemann Magnetos From: "taildrags" >From an A&P who flies behind a C85 that used to have Eisemanns on it. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=493502#493502 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/annotation_2019_11_26_155627_117.png ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:00 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/25/19 From: "taildrags" Semih; so are you just visiting in the states, or have you moved here now? Your signature line says you're building in Istanbul but staying here in Orlando... -Oscar -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=493505#493505 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.