---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/04/20: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:46 AM - Re: Flight characteristics (taildrags) 2. 10:07 AM - Re: AN42B eye bolt for hinges (taildrags) 3. 10:09 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/02/20 (taildrags) 4. 11:06 AM - Re: Re: Flight characteristics (Steven Dortch) 5. 01:11 PM - Re: Flight characteristics (taildrags) 6. 03:27 PM - Re: Re: Flight characteristics (Steven Dortch) 7. 04:43 PM - Re: Flight characteristics (taildrags) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:46:37 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight characteristics From: "taildrags" - Steven, you got the full dose injection of 65cc of Continental power in your rear end when you went up with me in 41CC that day. I know you weren't immune and would succumb to it. We could have done better if I'd have taken you up in the airplane with the A75 on it, especially on those warm south Texas afternoons, but 65 was apparently enough. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495606#495606 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:07:28 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: AN42B eye bolt for hinges From: "taildrags" Earl; yes, I am still selling the cast aluminum Vi Kapler-style hinges. However, I no longer have the free time to finish them, so all I am offering right now are the rough castings for the builder to finish. It only requires simple hand operations to smooth the edges, countersink and drill the mounting holes, and drill the pivot holes, but it does take time to turn out a set of 18 pieces and right now my time is in pretty short supply. Every hour I can put in my timesheet at work as the company president gains me the equivalent gain of a half-dozen sets of Piet tail hinges, which might take me 6-8 hours to crank out. I have clevis pins with thin washers and cotter pins on the hinges on my airplane, and that's what I recommend. I remember running a weight comparison doing the nine hinge points using something heavier and you would be surprised how much difference it makes back there on the tail. My old hangar mate Craig Wall is a weight freak and he helped me swap out the clevis pins in my hinges with titanium ones, the shortest possible, along with the thin washers. We cottered them all up and clipped the excess tails of the cotters to get everything as light as possible back there. I have to admit that working cotter pins in the narrow gap between the tail surfaces can be frustrating and maddening if you try to do it solo... much easier with a person on each side of the control surface and you soon work out "who holds what, who inserts what, who bends what, who clips what" to make it a process. It's a lot of fidgety little parts to work in a tight space. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495607#495607 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:09:25 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/02/20 From: "taildrags" DHawk: you'll need to machine two parts... one part has a single 'ear' that fits into the mating part, which has two 'ears'. This puts the hinge pin in double shear. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495608#495608 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:06:43 AM PST US From: Steven Dortch Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight characteristics I would have resisted better if I had put on ear protection. You had me at a disadvantage. I was overwhelmed. On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 11:49 AM taildrags wrote: > > - Steven, you got the full dose injection of 65cc of Continental power in > your rear end when you went up with me in 41CC that day. I know you > weren't immune and would succumb to it. We could have done better if I'd > have taken you up in the airplane with the A75 on it, especially on those > warm south Texas afternoons, but 65 was apparently enough. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495606#495606 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:11:43 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight characteristics From: "taildrags" Steven- very insensitive of me to have not offered you some earmuffs before the flight; sorry. Oh but hey, I thought Army grunts didn't need hearing protection anyway-? And it was questionable as to whether I was even going to let you get into my airplane because at the time, I had my doubts about someone who would actually paint an entire Chevy Suburban with nothing but rattle cans of red paint from Lowe's... -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495612#495612 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:27:42 PM PST US From: Steven Dortch Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight characteristics First! You did offer ear muffs, but I didn't want you to have time to change your mind. I am slightly offended! The worst way to paint is on a grassy surface, on a hot day in the wind. So we painted it in the ditch on a 100 degree, Windy's day. But I did not use rattle cans! It was valspar tractor paint. International Harvester Red to be exact. On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 3:15 PM taildrags wrote: > > Steven- very insensitive of me to have not offered you some earmuffs > before the flight; sorry. Oh but hey, I thought Army grunts didn't need > hearing protection anyway-? And it was questionable as to whether I was > even going to let you get into my airplane because at the time, I had my > doubts about someone who would actually paint an entire Chevy Suburban with > nothing but rattle cans of red paint from Lowe's... > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495612#495612 > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:02 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight characteristics From: "taildrags" Just to keep this post on topic, I will add that I can't seem to consistently 3-point my Piet either, and my wheel landing technique needs work but it's probably better than some of my attempts to 3-point. Definitely better to wheel land it if there's any significant amount of x-wind or you're operating out of a narrow strip. I've gotten lazy operating out of the Medford airport, which is 8800 x 150 feet and if I drift off to one side or the other a little, it doesn't matter much. I can also angle my landing so as to touch down on one side of the runway and use the width of the runway to get the nose pointed a little closer to the wind. I've got some 8.00 tires that I'm going to put on instead of the 6's to put the nose just a little higher in the 3-point attitude to see what that does to my landings. At rest, the top longerons of my airplane are currently at 12.2 degrees from the horizontal (as measured with the digital level app on my phone). My Piet sure isn't much of a floater, but that makes it easier for me to consistently make the first turnoff on our long runway, or to get into short strips when coming in over an obstacle. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495614#495614 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.