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2. 01:59 PM - Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet (cdlwingnut)
3. 02:21 PM - Hinges with eye bolts (PoconoJohn2)
4. 08:29 PM - Re: Hinges with eye bolts (taildrags)
5. 09:12 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 04/04/20 (William Titus)
6. 10:39 PM - Re: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 04/04/20 (Steven Dortch)
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| Subject: | Re: Heating after the bend |
As long as you have used the proper bend radius you are good to go.
Jerry
Sky Classic Aircraft
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Dan: the question was about bending 4130. If I remember correctly, the
fittings in the BHP plans and narrative are all mild steel. Google
searching on stress-relieving 4130 seems to indicate that that treatment is
used after welding, not bending, and that thin-wall (under about 0.120")
doesn't need stress relieving.
However, I am not a welder or steel fabricator, so I'm just repeating what
I've found online.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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| Subject: | Re: Ragwing Ultra-Piet |
I got the engine mount completed. Now i am running out of excuses not to start
covering.
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| Subject: | Hinges with eye bolts |
I'm using eye bolts for hinges. I don't want the holes (3/16") too close together,
so I spaced them 1" apart (on center). The resulting space on the clevis pin
adds up to 3/4".
Should I pile washers in there or is there a spacer I can use...perhaps using some
tubing.
Or....should I redo this and space the bolts closer, but then how close is too
close?
Thank you,
John C
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| Subject: | Re: Hinges with eye bolts |
John; I think I would get some nylon bushing material with the right ID to slip
over the clevis pin and use two pieces to fill in the gaps. Self-lubricating,
tough, light.
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Medford, OR
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1. 09:46 AM - Re: Flight characteristics (taildrags)
2. 10:07 AM - Re: AN42B eye bolt for hinges (taildrags)
3. 10:09 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/02/20 (taildrag
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4. 11:06 AM - Re: Re: Flight characteristics (Steven Dortch)
5. 01:11 PM - Re: Flight characteristics (taildrags)
6. 03:27 PM - Re: Re: Flight characteristics (Steven Dortch)
7. 04:43 PM - Re: Flight characteristics (taildrags)
________________________________ Message 1 ______________________________
_______
Time: 09:46:37 AM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight characteristics
From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
- Steven, you got the full dose injection of 65cc of Continental power in y
our
rear end when you went up with me in 41CC that day. I know you weren't imm
une
and would succumb to it. We could have done better if I'd have taken you u
p
in the airplane with the A75 on it, especially on those warm south Texas af
ternoons,
but 65 was apparently enough.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495606#495606
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Time: 10:07:28 AM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: AN42B eye bolt for hinges
From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Earl; yes, I am still selling the cast aluminum Vi Kapler-style hinges. Ho
wever,
I no longer have the free time to finish them, so all I am offering right n
ow
are the rough castings for the builder to finish. It only requires simple
hand operations to smooth the edges, countersink and drill the mounting hol
es,
and drill the pivot holes, but it does take time to turn out a set of 18 pi
eces
and right now my time is in pretty short supply. Every hour I can put in m
y
timesheet at work as the company president gains me the equivalent gain of
a
half-dozen sets of Piet tail hinges, which might take me 6-8 hours to crank
out.
I have clevis pins with thin washers and cotter pins on the hinges on my ai
rplane,
and that's what I recommend. I remember running a weight comparison doing
the nine hinge points using something heavier and you would be surprised ho
w
much difference it makes back there on the tail. My old hangar mate Craig
Wall
is a weight freak and he helped me swap out the clevis pins in my hinges wi
th
titanium ones, the shortest possible, along with the thin washers. We cott
ered
them all up and clipped the excess tails of the cotters to get everything
as light as possible back there. I have to admit that working cotter pins
in
the narrow gap between the tail surfaces can be frustrating and maddening i
f you
try to do it solo... much easier with a person on each side of the control
surface and you soon work out "who holds what, who inserts what, who bends
what,
who clips what" to make it a process. It's a lot of fidgety little parts t
o
work in a tight space.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495607#495607
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Time: 10:09:25 AM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/02/20
From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
DHawk: you'll need to machine two parts... one part has a single 'ear' that
fits
into the mating part, which has two 'ears'. This puts the hinge pin in dou
ble
shear.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495608#495608
________________________________ Message 4 ______________________________
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Time: 11:06:43 AM PST US
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight characteristics
I would have resisted better if I had put on ear protection. You had me at
a disadvantage. I was overwhelmed.
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 11:49 AM taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> - Steven, you got the full dose injection of 65cc of Continental power in
> your rear end when you went up with me in 41CC that day. I know you
> weren't immune and would succumb to it. We could have done better if I'd
> have taken you up in the airplane with the A75 on it, especially on those
> warm south Texas afternoons, but 65 was apparently enough.
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495606#495606
>
>
________________________________ Message 5 ______________________________
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Time: 01:11:43 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight characteristics
From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Steven- very insensitive of me to have not offered you some earmuffs before
the
flight; sorry. Oh but hey, I thought Army grunts didn't need hearing prote
ction
anyway-? And it was questionable as to whether I was even going to let you
get into my airplane because at the time, I had my doubts about someone who
would actually paint an entire Chevy Suburban with nothing but rattle cans
of
red paint from Lowe's...
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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________________________________ Message 6 ______________________________
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Time: 03:27:42 PM PST US
From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight characteristics
First! You did offer ear muffs, but I didn't want you to have time to
change your mind.
I am slightly offended! The worst way to paint is on a grassy surface, on a
hot day in the wind. So we painted it in the ditch on a 100 degree, Windy's
day. But I did not use rattle cans! It was valspar tractor paint.
International Harvester Red to be exact.
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 3:15 PM taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Steven- very insensitive of me to have not offered you some earmuffs
> before the flight; sorry. Oh but hey, I thought Army grunts didn't need
> hearing protection anyway-? And it was questionable as to whether I was
> even going to let you get into my airplane because at the time, I had my
> doubts about someone who would actually paint an entire Chevy Suburban wi
th
> nothing but rattle cans of red paint from Lowe's...
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495612#495612
>
>
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Time: 04:43:02 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight characteristics
From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Just to keep this post on topic, I will add that I can't seem to consistent
ly 3-point
my Piet either, and my wheel landing technique needs work but it's probably
better than some of my attempts to 3-point. Definitely better to wheel lan
d
it if there's any significant amount of x-wind or you're operating out of
a narrow strip. I've gotten lazy operating out of the Medford airport, whi
ch
is 8800 x 150 feet and if I drift off to one side or the other a little, it
doesn't
matter much. I can also angle my landing so as to touch down on one side
of the runway and use the width of the runway to get the nose pointed a lit
tle
closer to the wind. I've got some 8.00 tires that I'm going to put on inst
ead
of the 6's to put the nose just a little higher in the 3-point attitude to
see what that does to my landings. At rest, the top longerons of my airpla
ne
are currently at 12.2 degrees from the horizontal (as measured with the dig
ital
level app on my phone).
My Piet sure isn't much of a floater, but that makes it easier for me to co
nsistently
make the first turnoff on our long runway, or to get into short strips
when coming in over an obstacle.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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> 1. 09:46 AM - Re: Flight characteristics (taildrags)
>
> 2. 10:07 AM - Re: AN42B eye bolt for hinges (taildrags)
>
> 3. 10:09 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/02/20
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> 4. 11:06 AM - Re: Re: Flight characteristics (Steven Dortch)
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> 5. 01:11 PM - Re: Flight characteristics (taildrags)
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> 7. 04:43 PM - Re: Flight characteristics (taildrags)
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>
> Time: 09:46:37 AM PST US
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight characteristics
>
> From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
>
> - Steven, you got the full dose injection of 65cc of Continental power in
> your
>
> rear end when you went up with me in 41CC that day. I know you weren't
> immune
>
> and would succumb to it. We could have done better if I'd have taken you
> up
>
> in the airplane with the A75 on it, especially on those warm south Texas
> afternoons,
>
> but 65 was apparently enough.
>
>
> --------
>
> Oscar Zuniga
>
> Medford, OR
>
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
>
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495606#495606
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 10:07:28 AM PST US
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: AN42B eye bolt for hinges
>
> From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Earl; yes, I am still selling the cast aluminum Vi Kapler-style hinges.
> However,
>
> I no longer have the free time to finish them, so all I am offering right
> now
>
> are the rough castings for the builder to finish. It only requires simple
>
> hand operations to smooth the edges, countersink and drill the mounting
> holes,
>
> and drill the pivot holes, but it does take time to turn out a set of 18
> pieces
>
> and right now my time is in pretty short supply. Every hour I can put in
> my
>
> timesheet at work as the company president gains me the equivalent gain of
> a
>
> half-dozen sets of Piet tail hinges, which might take me 6-8 hours to
> crank out.
>
>
> I have clevis pins with thin washers and cotter pins on the hinges on my
> airplane,
>
> and that's what I recommend. I remember running a weight comparison doing
>
> the nine hinge points using something heavier and you would be surprised
> how
>
> much difference it makes back there on the tail. My old hangar mate Craig
> Wall
>
> is a weight freak and he helped me swap out the clevis pins in my hinges
> with
>
> titanium ones, the shortest possible, along with the thin washers. We
> cottered
>
> them all up and clipped the excess tails of the cotters to get everything
>
> as light as possible back there. I have to admit that working cotter pins
> in
>
> the narrow gap between the tail surfaces can be frustrating and maddening
> if you
>
> try to do it solo... much easier with a person on each side of the control
>
> surface and you soon work out "who holds what, who inserts what, who bends
> what,
>
> who clips what" to make it a process. It's a lot of fidgety little parts
> to
>
> work in a tight space.
>
>
> --------
>
> Oscar Zuniga
>
> Medford, OR
>
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
>
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495607#495607
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 10:09:25 AM PST US
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/02/20
>
> From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
>
> DHawk: you'll need to machine two parts... one part has a single 'ear'
> that fits
>
> into the mating part, which has two 'ears'. This puts the hinge pin in
> double
>
> shear.
>
>
> --------
>
> Oscar Zuniga
>
> Medford, OR
>
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
>
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495608#495608
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
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>
> Time: 11:06:43 AM PST US
>
> From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight characteristics
>
>
> I would have resisted better if I had put on ear protection. You had me at
>
> a disadvantage. I was overwhelmed.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 11:49 AM taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >
>
> > - Steven, you got the full dose injection of 65cc of Continental power in
>
> > your rear end when you went up with me in 41CC that day. I know you
>
> > weren't immune and would succumb to it. We could have done better if I'd
>
> > have taken you up in the airplane with the A75 on it, especially on those
>
> > warm south Texas afternoons, but 65 was apparently enough.
>
> >
>
> > --------
>
> > Oscar Zuniga
>
> > Medford, OR
>
> > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
>
> > A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Read this topic online here:
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> >
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> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495606#495606
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> >
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> >
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> ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:11:43 PM PST US
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight characteristics
>
> From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Steven- very insensitive of me to have not offered you some earmuffs
> before the
>
> flight; sorry. Oh but hey, I thought Army grunts didn't need hearing
> protection
>
> anyway-? And it was questionable as to whether I was even going to let you
>
> get into my airplane because at the time, I had my doubts about someone who
>
> would actually paint an entire Chevy Suburban with nothing but rattle cans
> of
>
> red paint from Lowe's...
>
>
> --------
>
> Oscar Zuniga
>
> Medford, OR
>
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
>
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495612#495612
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:27:42 PM PST US
>
> From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight characteristics
>
>
> First! You did offer ear muffs, but I didn't want you to have time to
>
> change your mind.
>
>
> I am slightly offended! The worst way to paint is on a grassy surface, on a
>
> hot day in the wind. So we painted it in the ditch on a 100 degree, Windy's
>
> day. But I did not use rattle cans! It was valspar tractor paint.
>
> International Harvester Red to be exact.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 3:15 PM taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >
>
> > Steven- very insensitive of me to have not offered you some earmuffs
>
> > before the flight; sorry. Oh but hey, I thought Army grunts didn't need
>
> > hearing protection anyway-? And it was questionable as to whether I was
>
> > even going to let you get into my airplane because at the time, I had my
>
> > doubts about someone who would actually paint an entire Chevy Suburban
> with
>
> > nothing but rattle cans of red paint from Lowe's...
>
> >
>
> > --------
>
> > Oscar Zuniga
>
> > Medford, OR
>
> > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
>
> > A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Read this topic online here:
>
> >
>
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495612#495612
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:43:02 PM PST US
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight characteristics
>
> From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Just to keep this post on topic, I will add that I can't seem to
> consistently 3-point
>
> my Piet either, and my wheel landing technique needs work but it's probably
>
> better than some of my attempts to 3-point. Definitely better to wheel
> land
>
> it if there's any significant amount of x-wind or you're operating out of
>
> a narrow strip. I've gotten lazy operating out of the Medford airport,
> which
>
> is 8800 x 150 feet and if I drift off to one side or the other a little,
> it doesn't
>
> matter much. I can also angle my landing so as to touch down on one side
>
> of the runway and use the width of the runway to get the nose pointed a
> little
>
> closer to the wind. I've got some 8.00 tires that I'm going to put on
> instead
>
> of the 6's to put the nose just a little higher in the 3-point attitude to
>
> see what that does to my landings. At rest, the top longerons of my
> airplane
>
> are currently at 12.2 degrees from the horizontal (as measured with the
> digital
>
> level app on my phone).
>
>
> My Piet sure isn't much of a floater, but that makes it easier for me to
> consistently
>
> make the first turnoff on our long runway, or to get into short strips
>
> when coming in over an obstacle.
>
>
> --------
>
> Oscar Zuniga
>
> Medford, OR
>
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
>
> A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=495614#495614
>
>
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