---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/17/21: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:23 AM - Re: consult pietenpol carpenters (helspersew@aol.com) 2. 04:49 AM - Re: consult pietenpol carpenters (Greg Cardinal) 3. 05:22 AM - Re: consult pietenpol carpenters (skipgadd@earthlink.net) 4. 05:23 AM - Re: consult pietenpol carpenters (Scott Knowlton) 5. 01:01 PM - Re: consult pietenpol carpenters (wtourn) 6. 03:27 PM - Re: Re: consult pietenpol carpenters (helspersew@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:23:01 AM PST US From: helspersew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: consult pietenpol carpenters Hello Walter, Personally I would not hesitate to fabricate the longerons the way you desc ribe. First I would run the material through a planer so that the thickness of each piece was 1/3 inch. Then if you could make a random glue pattern, staggering all the glue joints as to spread the stress. I'll bet your resul t would actually be stronger than the original, a-la modern glued-up "engin eered" beams. Do you know Santiago Morete of Santa Rosa, Argentina? He comp leted his Pietenpol a few years ago and the result is impeccable. Dan HelsperAnamosa IowaNX929DH -----Original Message----- From: wtourn Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2021 4:44 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: consult pietenpol carpenters Good afternoon, with your permission, I would like to ask if it is feasible to build a longeron with 3 strips plated together until reaching 4.40 mete rs, which is the length I need for one inch wide .. this is because I have a very good wood but it is only 1.50 meters long by half an inch, I await your comments Walter from Argentina Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=500275#500275 S - WIKI - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:49:32 AM PST US From: "Greg Cardinal" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: consult pietenpol carpenters That was a bad link. Try this instead: https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC%2043.13-2B.pd f Greg Cardinal -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Cardinal Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 9:33 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: consult pietenpol carpenters --> Follow this: https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC%2043.13-2B.pd f Greg Cardinal -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of wtourn Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 4:45 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: consult pietenpol carpenters Good afternoon, with your permission, I would like to ask if it is feasible to build a longeron with 3 strips plated together until reaching 4.40 meters, which is the length I need for one inch wide .. this is because I have a very good wood but it is only 1.50 meters long by half an inch, I await your comments Walter from Argentina Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=500275#500275 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:22:45 AM PST US From: "skipgadd@earthlink.net" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: consult pietenpol carpenters -----Original Message----- >Hi Walter, in addition to what the other guys said I would suggest to glue up the lower longeron in the shape of the lower longeron. This will result in less stress in the final fuselage. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:09 AM PST US From: Scott Knowlton Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: consult pietenpol carpenters RGl0dG8gRGFu4oCZcyB3b3JkcywNCkFuIGFkZGVkIGJlbmVmaXQgb2YgdGhpcyBwcm9jZXNzIGlz IHlvdXIgYWJpbGl0eSB0byBzZXQgeW91ciBib3R0b20gbG9uZ2Vyb24gZ2x1ZWQgbGFtaW5hdGlv biBpbiBwbGFjZSBvbiB5b3VyIGppZyB0byBhbGxvdyBpdCB0byBjdXJlIGluIGl0cyBnZW50bHkg Y3VydmVkIHBvc2l0aW9uLiAgU2NhcmZpbmcgeW91ciAxLzPigJ0gcGllY2VzIGluc3RlYWQgb2Yg YnV0dCBqb2luaW5nIHRoZW0gd291bGQgcHJvdmlkZSBhZGRlZCBzdHJlbmd0aC4NCg0KU2NvdHQg S25vd2x0b24NCg0KT24gSmFuIDE3LCAyMDIxLCBhdCA3OjI1IEFNLCBoZWxzcGVyc2V3QGFvbC5j b20gd3JvdGU6DQoNCu+7vw0KSGVsbG8gV2FsdGVyLA0KDQpQZXJzb25hbGx5IEkgd291bGQgbm90 IGhlc2l0YXRlIHRvIGZhYnJpY2F0ZSB0aGUgbG9uZ2Vyb25zIHRoZSB3YXkgeW91IGRlc2NyaWJl LiBGaXJzdCBJIHdvdWxkIHJ1biB0aGUgbWF0ZXJpYWwgdGhyb3VnaCBhIHBsYW5lciBzbyB0aGF0 IHRoZSB0aGlja25lc3Mgb2YgZWFjaCBwaWVjZSB3YXMgMS8zIGluY2guIFRoZW4gaWYgeW91IGNv dWxkIG1ha2UgYSByYW5kb20gZ2x1ZSBwYXR0ZXJuLCBzdGFnZ2VyaW5nIGFsbCB0aGUgZ2x1ZSBq b2ludHMgYXMgdG8gc3ByZWFkIHRoZSBzdHJlc3MuIEknbGwgYmV0IHlvdXIgcmVzdWx0IHdvdWxk IGFjdHVhbGx5IGJlIHN0cm9uZ2VyIHRoYW4gdGhlIG9yaWdpbmFsLCBhLWxhIG1vZGVybiBnbHVl ZC11cCAiZW5naW5lZXJlZCIgYmVhbXMuIERvIHlvdSBrbm93IFNhbnRpYWdvIE1vcmV0ZSBvZiBT YW50YSBSb3NhLCBBcmdlbnRpbmE/IEhlIGNvbXBsZXRlZCBoaXMgUGlldGVucG9sIGEgZmV3IHll YXJzIGFnbyBhbmQgdGhlIHJlc3VsdCBpcyBpbXBlY2NhYmxlLg0KDQpEYW4gSGVsc3Blcg0KQW5h bW9zYSBJb3dhDQpOWDkyOURIDQoNCg0KLS0tLS1PcmlnaW5hbCBNZXNzYWdlLS0tLS0NCkZyb206 IHd0b3VybiA8d3RvdXJuQGhvdG1haWwuY29tPg0KVG86IHBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmlj cy5jb20NClNlbnQ6IFNhdCwgSmFuIDE2LCAyMDIxIDQ6NDQgcG0NClN1YmplY3Q6IFBpZXRlbnBv bC1MaXN0OiBjb25zdWx0IHBpZXRlbnBvbCBjYXJwZW50ZXJzDQoNCi0tPiBQaWV0ZW5wb2wtTGlz dCBtZXNzYWdlIHBvc3RlZCBieTogInd0b3VybiIgPHd0b3VybkBob3RtYWlsLmNvbTxtYWlsdG86 d3RvdXJuQGhvdG1haWwuY29tPj4NCg0KR29vZCBhZnRlcm5vb24sIHdpdGggeW91ciBwZXJtaXNz aW9uLCBJIHdvdWxkIGxpa2UgdG8gYXNrIGlmIGl0IGlzIGZlYXNpYmxlIHRvIGJ1aWxkIGEgbG9u Z2Vyb24gd2l0aCAzIHN0cmlwcyBwbGF0ZWQgdG9nZXRoZXIgdW50aWwgcmVhY2hpbmcgNC40MCBt ZXRlcnMsIHdoaWNoIGlzIHRoZSBsZW5ndGggSSBuZWVkIGZvciBvbmUgaW5jaCB3aWRlDQouLiB0 aGlzIGlzIGJlY2F1c2UgSSBoYXZlIGEgdmVyeSBnb29kIHdvb2QgYnV0IGl0IGlzIG9ubHkgMS41 MCBtZXRlcnMgbG9uZyBieSBoYWxmIGFuIGluY2gsIEkgYXdhaXQgeW91ciBjb21tZW50cw0KV2Fs dGVyIGZyb20gQXJnZW50aW5hDQoNCg0KDQoNClJlYWQgdGhpcyB0b3BpYyBvbmxpbmUgaGVyZToN Cg0KaHR0cDovL2ZvcnVtcy5tYXRyb25pY3MuY29tL3ZpZXd0b3BpYy5waHA/cD01MDAyNzUjNTAw Mjc1DQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQo ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:45 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: consult pietenpol carpenters From: "wtourn" Thank you very much for your contributions, guys, they are very useful .. Santiago Morete has been flying his pietenpol proudly a few years ago and we cannot download it even to copy his design :) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=500294#500294 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:27:23 PM PST US From: helspersew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: consult pietenpol carpenters I agree with Skip Gadd. If you make your laminated longerons, then it would be wise to glue them in a jig that has the same final curved shape as the finished fuselage. If they are glued straight, they will be harder to bend after gluing. Dan HelsperAnamosa IANX929DH -----Original Message----- From: wtourn Sent: Sun, Jan 17, 2021 3:01 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: consult pietenpol carpenters Thank you very much for your contributions, guys, they are very useful .. 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