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| Subject:  | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 08/01/23 | 
      
      
      Stop emails. Chester has died
      
      > On Aug 2, 2023, at 1:43 AM, Pietenpol-List Digest Server <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      wrote:
      > 
      > *
      > 
      > =================================================
      >   Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
      > =================================================
      > 
      > Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the 
      > two Web Links listed below.  The .html file includes the Digest formatted 
      > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes 
      > and Message Navigation.  The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version 
      > of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor 
      > such as Notepad or with a web browser. 
      > 
      > HTML Version:
      > 
      >    http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 23-08-01&Archive=Pietenpol
      > 
      > Text Version:
      > 
      >    http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 23-08-01&Archive=Pietenpol
      > 
      > 
      > ===============================================
      >   EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
      > ===============================================
      > 
      > 
      >           ----------------------------------------------------------
      >                           Pietenpol-List Digest Archive
      >                                      ---
      >                     Total Messages Posted Tue 08/01/23: 2
      >           ----------------------------------------------------------
      > 
      > 
      > Today's Message Index:
      > ----------------------
      > 
      >     1. 11:06 PM - Official Pietenpol-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)  (Matt
      Dralle)
      >     2. 11:26 PM - Official Pietenpol-List Usage Guidelines  (Matt Dralle)
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > ________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 11:06:31 PM PST US
      > From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Official Pietenpol-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
      > 
      > 
      > Dear Listers,
      > 
      > Please read over the Pietenpol-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) below. 
      The
      > complete Pietenpol-List FAQ including the Usage Guidelines can be found at the
      > following URL:
      > 
      >   http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Pietenpol-List.FAQ.html
      > 
      > Thank you,
      > 
      > Matt Dralle
      > Matronics Email List Administrator
      > 
      > 
      > [ Note: This FAQ was designed to be displayed with a fixed width font such as
      >         Courier.  Proportional fonts will cause display formatting errors. ]
      > 
      > 
      >   This FAQ can also be viewed in HTML online at the following address:
      > 
      >                 http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm
      > 
      > 
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      >      folks and the rest of us, for that matter.
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      >      down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the
      >      file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
      > 
      >      Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows
      >      you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically 
      >      scale it down and resave it.  This is a great utility - get it, use it!
      >      http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
      >      Look for the link "Image Resizer"
      > 
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      > 
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      >              page breaks inserted between messages.
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      > 
      >            - Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections that 
      >              can more easily handled.
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      > 
      >            - Same as the Pietenpol-Archive.digest.complete file above, but 
      >              in PKZIP format.  Use "binary" data transfer methods.
      > 
      >   * Pietenpol-Archive.digest.complete.Z 
      > 
      >            - Same as the Pietenpol-Archive.digest.complete file above, but in
      > 
      >              UNIX compress format.  Use "binary" data transfer methods.
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      >   Generally Contributions range from $20 to $100 and are completely voluntary
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      > 
      > ******************************************************************************
      >                     Pietenpol-List Usage Guidelines
      > ******************************************************************************
      > 
      > The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Pietenpol-List.
      > You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
      > Failure to use the Pietenpol-List in the manner described below may result 
      > in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
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      > 
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      > among its members; and to support safe operation.  Reaching these goals 
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      > 
      > 
      > - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level.  Do not submit
      >   posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
      >   lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
      > 
      > - THINK carefully before you write.  Ask yourself if your post will be
      >   relevant to everyone.  If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
      > 
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      >   responses.
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      >   aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location.  A short line
      >   about where you are in the building process is also nice.  Avoid
      >   bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
      >   space in the archive.
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      >   easily obtainable from other widely available sources.  Consult the
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      >   can not be overstated!
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      >   will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
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      >   a typical SPAM message.  The List isn't about commercialism, but 
      >   is about sharing information and knowledge.  This applies to 
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      > ________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________
      > 
      > 
      > Time: 11:26:25 PM PST US
      > From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Official Pietenpol-List Usage Guidelines
      > 
      > 
      > Dear Listers,
      > 
      > Please read over the Pietenpol-List Usage Guidelines below.  The complete
      > Pietenpol-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
      > following URL:
      > 
      >   http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Pietenpol-List.FAQ.html
      > 
      > Thank you,
      > 
      > Matt Dralle
      > Matronics Email List Administrator
      > 
      > 
      > ******************************************************************************
      >                     Pietenpol-List Usage Guidelines
      > ******************************************************************************
      > 
      > The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Pietenpol-List.
      > You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
      > Failure to use the Pietenpol-List in the manner described below may result 
      > in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
      > 
      > 
      > Pietenpol-List Policy Statement
      > 
      > The purpose of the Pietenpol-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
      > things related to this particular discussion group.  The List's goals
      > are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
      > high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
      > among its members; and to support safe operation.  Reaching these goals 
      > requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of 
      > the List.  To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
      > 
      > 
      > - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level.  Do not submit
      >   posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
      >   lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
      > 
      > - THINK carefully before you write.  Ask yourself if your post will be
      >   relevant to everyone.  If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
      > 
      > - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
      >   that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate.  Try to be concise and
      >   terse in your posts.  Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
      >   responses.
      > 
      > - Keep your signature brief.  Please include your name, email address,
      >   aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location.  A short line
      >   about where you are in the building process is also nice.  Avoid
      >   bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
      >   space in the archive.
      > 
      > - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
      >   easily obtainable from other widely available sources.  Consult the
      >   web page or FAQ first.
      > 
      > - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
      >   your response the same as that of the original post.  This makes it
      >   easy to find threads in the archive.
      > 
      > - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
      >   response.  DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
      >   reader to the topic at hand, but be selective.  The impact that
      >   quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive 
      >   can not be overstated!
      > 
      > - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
      >   then go ahead and reply to the List.  Be aware that clicking the
      >   "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
      >   response to the original poster.  You might have to actively address
      >   your response with the original poster's email address.
      > 
      > - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
      >   to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal.  "Way to go!", "I
      >   agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
      >   to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
      > 
      > - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
      >   comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
      >   contribute something valuable.
      > 
      > - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
      >   polite and respectful.  Don't make snide comments, personally attack
      >   other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
      >   controversial issue.  This will only cause a pointless debate that
      >   will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
      > 
      > - Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly 
      >   subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable.  Posts by 
      >   List members promoting their respective products or items for sale 
      >   should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
      >   a typical SPAM message.  The List isn't about commercialism, but 
      >   is about sharing information and knowledge.  This applies to 
      >   everyone, including those who provide products to the entire 
      >   community.  Informal presentation and moderation should be the 
      >   operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
      > 
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