---------------------------------------------------------- Pulsar-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/28/11: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:20 AM - Re: fuel quanity? (Emil) 2. 06:37 AM - Re: Annual reunion (Emil) 3. 06:50 AM - Re: Need Engine Out Guidance for 582 Pulsar (Ron Koval) 4. 07:40 AM - Re: Annual reunion (Ray Wilhelm) 5. 07:55 AM - Re: EXTERNAL: Annual reunion (Cowan, Michael) 6. 08:20 AM - Re: Annual reunion (David Weaver) 7. 09:08 AM - Re: Annual reunion (pilot623) 8. 09:21 AM - Re: Need Engine Out Guidance for 582 Pulsar (Everett Collier) 9. 10:06 AM - Re: Annual reunion (clarkppt@aol.com) 10. 05:04 PM - Re: Annual reunion (Lance Goddard) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:50 AM PST US From: "Emil" Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: fuel quanity? Hi Bill My Pulsar 111 has 14 gallons on both sides also Emil ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill S To: pulsar-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: fuel quanity? Thanks Jim That is what I thought? ----- Original Message ----- From: pilot623 To: pulsar-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 4:45 PM Subject: RE: Pulsar-List: fuel quanity? Hi Bill, My Pulsar 2 is 14 gallons in each wing. Jim ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill S Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 4:16 PM To: pulsar-list@matronics.com Subject: Pulsar-List: fuel quanity? Was the pulsar ll fuel tanks the same size as on the lll? 14gal each side. Bill S. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:52 AM PST US From: "Emil" Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Annual reunion Hi Greg Either location will work out for us. Emil Radtke N143NB ----- Original Message ----- From: GREGSMI@aol.com To: Pulsar-Aviators@yahoogroups.com ; pulsar-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:16 PM Subject: Pulsar-List: Annual reunion Greetings from very hot Texas. Mark and I are back working on the Nova and having a great time with the design. It has been very quiet on the list, hope all is well with everyone. I have had a few inquiries on this years reunion so am sending out a query to see if we have enough interest to schedule an event. I would think late September is a good time, in either Kansas or Texas. Please let me know what you would like to do. We can always plan an event at Oshkosh, maybe have swim and diving event. Tom, are you up for a little mud wrestling? I hope everyone is doing well and enjoying their Pulsar. Take care and be safe, Greg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:41 AM PST US From: Ron Koval Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Need Engine Out Guidance for 582 Pulsar Everett,=0A=0AI didn't have the 582 engine quit, but I had an incident wher e the engine lost =0Aabout 1000 rpm for about 8 seconds, came back up, then dropped rpm again.- I =0Alanded with the engine still running.- I did find the area of filler cap that =0Awas crumbling (improperly finished that I had to rebuild) that was getting into =0Athe fuel line and causing major blockage in the fuel filter, plus my vent tube =0Awas completely blocked. =0A=0AIt would be helpful if you could be more descriptive when you say "th e 582 =0Astopped".=0A=0ABest regards,=0A=0ARon=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________ __________________=0AFrom: Everett Collier =0ATo : Pulsar Builders =0ASent: Wed, April 27, 2011 4 :05:56 PM=0ASubject: Pulsar-List: Need Engine Out Guidance for 582 Pulsar =0A=0A=0ALast time I flew (April 16th) it was for the grand kids to watch g randpa Ev fly =0Athe Pulsar around the pattern (35 Hrs on the tach at this point). While climbing =0Aout and just beginning to turn downwind, the 582 stopped. The "fly the plane" =0Athing kicked in and I turned back to the ru nway and landed downwind without =0Aincident. I was bit long though, just b efore the numbers at the wrong end, so =0Awent out onto the overrun about 1 50 ft, but it was smooth and no problem.=0AJust decided to try the starter after stopping, and it fired right up. Taxied =0Aback to my hanger.=0ADid n ot do more than a quick look for the problem at that time. Just checked to =0Amake sure I had really had the fuel selector in the right place.=0ANow o f course, I would like to know exactly what happened before committing =0Aa viation again, but so far have not been able to find a cause. I think it mu st =0Ahave been a fuel starvation issue, but cannot find a reason.=0APossib ly relevant facts:=0AIt was the first flight after removing and replacing t he engine to facilitate =0Arepair of the exhaust muffler where a mounting t ab I had welded on it had pulled =0Aout. =0A=0AI had ground run the engine for 10 minutes the day I got it all back together. =0AAll temps seemed norm al and so put it away for the day.=0AWhile I had the engine out, I drained and replaced the gearbox lube since it was =0Aconvenient to do it with the engine on the bench.=0AI had turned off the boost pump at about 600 ft AGL before the engine quit.=0AI was on the center tank at the time and did not try to switch tanks or restart =0Awhile landing. Note that my pulsar has wi ng tanks as well as the original 582 =0Acenter tank. There was at least 6 g allons of fuel in the tank at the time. The =0Asight gage is not calibrated precisley.=0ASense then I have visually inspected everything I can without joy including =0Arechecking the engine wiring connections.=0AI tied the pu lsar to a fence post and ground ran it for 10 more minutes at full =0Apower (5800 to 5900 rpm. Nothing unusual. Had a friend hold the tail on the =0Ag round and repeated the full power ground run all with the boost pump off. S ame =0Aresult. Note that I have not changed the fuel selector in all of thi s.=0AWhile landing, the prop did turn over a couple fo times.=0AThere was a t least a qt of oil in the oil tank for the oil pump.=0AThe tank vent tube is not plugged.=0AAny ideas? My wife's idea is to get rid of the airplane. Not my choice though.=0AThanks in advance and sorry for the long winded que === =0A ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:06 AM PST US From: "Ray Wilhelm" Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Annual reunion Hi Clark, If you need a really good engineer, with lots of experience in composites, I can recommend one that lives in Big Bear with a Pulsar. Ray ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:35 AM PST US From: "Cowan, Michael" Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Pulsar-List: Annual reunion Hi Greg. Thanks for the invitation. Becky and I will try our best to attend whether the reunion is held in KS or TX. We could almost guarantee we would be there if you held it in Southern California :) Thanks again for all you do to make this possible. It is a highlight of our year. - Mike & Becky Cowan SerNo503 From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GREGSMI@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:17 PM Subject: EXTERNAL: Pulsar-List: Annual reunion Greetings from very hot Texas. Mark and I are back working on the Nova and having a great time with the design. It has been very quiet on the list, hope all is well with everyone. I have had a few inquiries on this years reunion so am sending out a query to see if we have enough interest to schedule an event. I would think late September is a good time, in either Kansas or Texas. Please let me know what you would like to do. We can always plan an event at Oshkosh, maybe have swim and diving event. Tom, are you up for a little mud wrestling? I hope everyone is doing well and enjoying their Pulsar. Take care and be safe, Greg ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:20 AM PST US From: David Weaver Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Annual reunion I will vote for Texas since I was unable to attend the last reunion held th ere.=C2- I follow the financial markets closely and am very concerned=C2 - with the direction of the economy.=C2- Hopefully the economy later in the year will not dampen reunion attendance.=C2- As far as dream trips.. ..mine is to fly to=C2-Alaska (might as well dream big)! Regards - Dave Weaver --- On Wed, 4/27/11, GREGSMI@aol.com wrote: From: GREGSMI@aol.com Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Annual reunion Fantastic Al, congratulations on your flights. It's been a long time coming but well worth the effort. Looking forward to seeing you and your Pulsar. =C2- Fly safe, Greg =C2- In a message dated 4/27/2011 7:11:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ajpinnick@ comcast.net writes: Greg =C2- I definitely plan on being there this year, with my airplane.=C2- While y ou guys were whooping it up at the last reunion, I had my first flight (aug ust 28).=C2- I will have my forty hours flown off this weekend.=C2- Thi s is the trip I=99ve been planning on for 14 years.=C2- See you at either site. =C2- Al Pinnick #473 =C2- From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-serv er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GREGSMI@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:17 PM Subject: Pulsar-List: Annual reunion =C2- Greetings from very hot Texas. Mark and I are back working on the Nova and having a great time with the design. It has been very quiet on the list, ho pe all is well with everyone. =C2- I have had a few inquiries on this years reunion so am sending out a query to see if we have enough interest to schedule an event. I would think late September is a good time, in either Kansas or Texas. =C2- Please let me know what you would like to do. We can always plan an event a t Oshkosh, maybe have swim and diving event. Tom, are you up for a little m ud wrestling? =C2- I hope everyone is doing well and enjoying their Pulsar. =C2- Take care and be safe, Greg =C2- =C2-http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-Listhttp://foru ms.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution =C2- ef="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?Pulsar-List s.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:23 AM PST US From: "pilot623" Subject: RE: Pulsar-List: Annual reunion Dave, I'm right there with you on the Alaska dream. I went there for a 5 week vacation in 1994 and it has been my dream ever since I started flying the Pulsar to fly it there. I think a group of Kitfox guys do that trip fairly regularly. Ray Thurman came up with the harebrained idea to ship a tundra tire setup to some northern location, at which we could switch out normal tires for the big boys, but I doubt I'd have any carrying capacity after adding the big tires. But we can dream... Jim _____ From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Weaver Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Annual reunion I will vote for Texas since I was unable to attend the last reunion held there. I follow the financial markets closely and am very concerned with the direction of the economy. Hopefully the economy later in the year will not dampen reunion attendance. As far as dream trips....mine is to fly to Alaska (might as well dream big)! Regards - Dave Weaver --- On Wed, 4/27/11, GREGSMI@aol.com wrote: From: GREGSMI@aol.com Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Annual reunion Fantastic Al, congratulations on your flights. It's been a long time coming but well worth the effort. Looking forward to seeing you and your Pulsar. Fly safe, Greg In a message dated 4/27/2011 7:11:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ajpinnick@comcast.net writes: Greg I definitely plan on being there this year, with my airplane. While you guys were whooping it up at the last reunion, I had my first flight (august 28). I will have my forty hours flown off this weekend. This is the trip I've been planning on for 14 years. See you at either site. Al Pinnick #473 From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GREGSMI@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:17 PM Subject: Pulsar-List: Annual reunion Greetings from very hot Texas. Mark and I are back working on the Nova and having a great time with the design. It has been very quiet on the list, hope all is well with everyone. I have had a few inquiries on this years reunion so am sending out a query to see if we have enough interest to schedule an event. I would think late September is a good time, in either Kansas or Texas. Please let me know what you would like to do. We can always plan an event at Oshkosh, maybe have swim and diving event. Tom, are you up for a little mud wrestling? I hope everyone is doing well and enjoying their Pulsar. Take care and be safe, Greg http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ef="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?Pulsar-List s.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution el=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:38 AM PST US From: Everett Collier Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Need Engine Out Guidance for 582 Pulsar Thanks for the responses.- Ron, by "the 582 stopped", it was like if-I had =0Aturned off both ignition switches at once.- I have checked and rec hecked the =0Aengine wiring.=0AAt this point My main suspect is debris in t he tank causing a blockage.- I plan =0Ato drain the tank and filter the f uel to look for anything I can find.- The fuel =0Ais unleaded premium aut o fuel and it will not go back in the Pulsar.- I will =0Aburn it in my Je ep.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Ron Koval =0ATo: pulsar-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thu, April 28, 2011 6:47: 43 AM=0ASubject: Re: Pulsar-List: Need Engine Out Guidance for 582 Pulsar =0A=0A=0AEverett,=0A=0AI didn't have the 582 engine quit, but I had an inci dent where the engine lost =0Aabout 1000 rpm for about 8 seconds, came back up, then dropped rpm again.- I =0Alanded with the engine still running. - I did find the area of filler cap that =0Awas crumbling (improperly fin ished that I had to rebuild) that was getting into =0Athe fuel line and cau sing major blockage in the fuel filter, plus my vent tube =0Awas completely blocked.=0A=0AIt would be helpful if you could be more descriptive when yo u say "the 582 =0Astopped".=0A=0ABest regards,=0A=0ARon=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____ ___________________________=0AFrom: Everett Collier =0ATo: Pulsar Builders =0ASent: Wed, April 2 7, 2011 4:05:56 PM=0ASubject: Pulsar-List: Need Engine Out Guidance for 582 Pulsar=0A=0A=0ALast time I flew (April 16th) it was for the grand kids to watch grandpa Ev fly =0Athe Pulsar around the pattern (35 Hrs on the tach a t this point). While climbing =0Aout and just beginning to turn downwind, t he 582 stopped. The "fly the plane" =0Athing kicked in and I turned back to the runway and landed downwind without =0Aincident. I was bit long though, just before the numbers at the wrong end, so =0Awent out onto the overrun about 150 ft, but it was smooth and no problem.=0AJust decided to try the s tarter after stopping, and it fired right up. Taxied =0Aback to my hanger. =0ADid not do more than a quick look for the problem at that time. Just che cked to =0Amake sure I had really had the fuel selector in the right place. =0ANow of course, I would like to know exactly what happened before committ ing =0Aaviation again, but so far have not been able to find a cause. I thi nk it must =0Ahave been a fuel starvation issue, but cannot find a reason. =0APossibly relevant facts:=0AIt was the first flight after removing and re placing the engine to facilitate =0Arepair of the exhaust muffler where a m ounting tab I had welded on it had pulled =0Aout. =0A=0AI had ground run th e engine for 10 minutes the day I got it all back together. =0AAll temps se emed normal and so put it away for the day.=0AWhile I had the engine out, I drained and replaced the gearbox lube since it was =0Aconvenient to do it with the engine on the bench.=0AI had turned off the boost pump at about 60 0 ft AGL before the engine quit.=0AI was on the center tank at the time and did not try to switch tanks or restart =0Awhile landing. Note that my puls ar has wing tanks as well as the original 582 =0Acenter tank. There was at least 6 gallons of fuel in the tank at the time. The =0Asight gage is not c alibrated precisley.=0ASense then I have visually inspected everything I ca n without joy including =0Arechecking the engine wiring connections.=0AI ti ed the pulsar to a fence post and ground ran it for 10 more minutes at full =0Apower (5800 to 5900 rpm. Nothing unusual. Had a friend hold the tail on the =0Aground and repeated the full power ground run all with the boost pu mp off. Same =0Aresult. Note that I have not changed the fuel selector in a ll of this.=0AWhile landing, the prop did turn over a couple fo times.=0ATh ere was at least a qt of oil in the oil tank for the oil pump.=0AThe tank v ent tube is not plugged.=0AAny ideas? My wife's idea is to get rid of the a irplane. Not my choice though.=0AThanks in advance and sorry for the long w ======================== =0A ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:40 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Annual reunion From: clarkppt@aol.com Thanks Ray. Right now the windmill work is all about the generator . Later is a series of blade ( 35 ft radius ) experiments.That will involve aero, st uctures , mfg and composits expertice. So stay in touch. -----Original Message----- From: Ray Wilhelm Sent: Thu, Apr 28, 2011 7:37 am Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Annual reunion Hi Clark, If you need a really good engineer, with lots of experience in composites, I can recommend one that lives in Big Bear with a Pulsar. 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No particular preference of location (though I fondly remember Jim's Texas barbecue). Thanks for taking this on again! Lance Goddard Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2011, at 6:16 PM, GREGSMI@aol.com wrote: > Greetings from very hot Texas. Mark and I are back working on the Nova and having a great time with the design. It has been very quiet on the list, hope all is well with everyone. > > I have had a few inquiries on this years reunion so am sending out a query to see if we have enough interest to schedule an event. I would think late September is a good time, in either Kansas or Texas. > > Please let me know what you would like to do. We can always plan an event at Oshkosh, maybe have swim and diving event. Tom, are you up for a little mud wrestling? > > I hope everyone is doing well and enjoying their Pulsar. > > Take care and be safe, > Greg > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pulsar-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pulsar-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pulsar-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pulsar-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.