---------------------------------------------------------- Pulsar-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/06/13: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:45 AM - Re: Fuel Cell Sealant (Sonja Englert) 2. 09:39 AM - Re: Pitot (angle of attack - Dynon) (p32gxy) 3. 09:40 AM - Re: 582 Ignition Problem (Steve) 4. 10:35 AM - Re: Re: Pitot (angle of attack - Dynon) (Larry Wheat) 5. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: Pitot (angle of attack - Dynon) (Larry Wheat) 6. 10:52 AM - Re: Re: Pitot (angle of attack - Dynon) (Larry Wheat) 7. 02:27 PM - Re: Pitot (angle of attack - Dynon) (p32gxy) 8. 03:06 PM - Re: Re: Pitot (angle of attack - Dynon) (Scott - Special Effects Armourer) 9. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: Pitot (angle of attack - Dynon) (Larry Wheat) 10. 06:36 PM - Re: Re: Pitot (angle of attack - Dynon) (Bernard Wilder) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Fuel Cell Sealant From: Sonja Englert I considered it briefly and decided to stay away from it. Rubber does not hold up well long term to ethanol. Sonja On 8/4/13, Bernard Wilder wrote: > > > Has anyone had any experience with: > > ""Bill Hirsch Gas Tank Sealant"" ? ? ? ? ? ? > > Aircraft Spruce sells it as a sealant resistant to ethanol. > Supposedly been on the market for 40 years, previously primarily sold > to auto restorers. > > Bernie Wilder > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:39:07 AM PST US Subject: Pulsar-List: Re: Pitot (angle of attack - Dynon) From: "p32gxy" Larry, That looks like exquisite workmanship! Would you mind sharing more details regarding your install? For example, is it attached before or aft of the main spar? Where did you route the tubes/cables? Could you describe the materials used in designing the inspection plate? Did you just cut a hole in the wing skin, are my eyes deceiving me, it seems that the back plate is recessed somewhat... Thx Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=406056#406056 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:42 AM PST US From: "Steve" Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: 582 Ignition Problem HI Ron Had the same sought of problem on our Pulsar 582, turned out to one of the wires from one of the ignition modules had chaffed against the cylinder head where they run behind the HT leads, was very hard to see but was just enough to ground out the wire! best of luck, did take a photo of it if I can find it I will e-mail it to you. All The Best Steve G-BUSR From: Ron Koval Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 12:46 AM Subject: Pulsar-List: 582 Ignition Problem Pulsar Friends, A week ago, just prior to take off, I did a mag check and the engine would die on one of the mags. I since have been trying to diagnose the problem and got suggestions from Rotax techs at Oshkosh AirVenture which I was planning on attending (drove). Swapped mags, and the problem remained on the same switch position so both mags were okay. The pick two pick ups both measured 168-170 ohms to ground, so they both appear okay. The charging cable's white wire coming from the engines rear coils, one showed a ground connection, the other was open. I just talked with the Kankakee, Illinois Rotax shop, and he said, the open white lead disconnected and to access the back end of the engine, the engine has to come out. Has anybody experienced a similar problem and did it take pulling the engine to open the back end to fix the problem? Thanks in advance to any advise. Best regards, Ron ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:35:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Pitot (angle of attack - Dynon) From: Larry Wheat In my particular build (Pulsar III) the suggested mount in on the forward inspection plate outside of the left fuel cell. I routed the AOA and AS lines behind the fuel cell and into the wing root. Then it was a matter of routing inside the fuselage to the appropriate gauges and sensors. I used the Push to Connect fittings. I have enclosed several places to buy http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=pneumatic+push+fittings (tubing), http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Overview/Catalog/Pneumatic_Components/Pneumatic_Fittings_-a-_Air_Couplings/Push-to-Connect_Pneumatic_Fittings_(Thermoplastic)(all kinds of fittings), Hope this helps. Cheers, Larry N852LW On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:36 AM, p32gxy wrote: > > Larry, > > That looks like exquisite workmanship! > > Would you mind sharing more details regarding your install? > > For example, is it attached before or aft of the main spar? Where did you > route the tubes/cables? > > Could you describe the materials used in designing the inspection plate? > Did you just cut a hole in the wing skin, are my eyes deceiving me, it > seems that the back plate is recessed somewhat... > > Thx > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=406056#406056 > > -- Larry Wheat ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:51:21 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Pitot (angle of attack - Dynon) From: Larry Wheat I came up woth another supplier which I have used. They are an aircraft supplier and have the fittings and the tubing in the various colors to keep the function clear. http://www.averytools.com/searchprods.asp Hope this will help as well. Cheers, Larry N852LW On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Larry Wheat wrote: > In my particular build (Pulsar III) the suggested mount in on the forward > inspection plate outside of the left fuel cell. I routed the AOA and AS > lines behind the fuel cell and into the wing root. Then it was a matter of > routing inside the fuselage to the appropriate gauges and sensors. I used > the Push to Connect fittings. I have enclosed several places to buy > http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=pneumatic+push+fittings (tubing), > http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Overview/Catalog/Pneumatic_Components/Pneumatic_Fittings_-a-_Air_Couplings/Push-to-Connect_Pneumatic_Fittings_(Thermoplastic)(all kinds of fittings), Hope this helps. Cheers, Larry N852LW > > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:36 AM, p32gxy wrote: > >> >> Larry, >> >> That looks like exquisite workmanship! >> >> Would you mind sharing more details regarding your install? >> >> For example, is it attached before or aft of the main spar? Where did you >> route the tubes/cables? >> >> Could you describe the materials used in designing the inspection plate? >> Did you just cut a hole in the wing skin, are my eyes deceiving me, it >> seems that the back plate is recessed somewhat... >> >> Thx >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=406056#406056 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Larry Wheat > -- Larry Wheat ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:52:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Pitot (angle of attack - Dynon) From: Larry Wheat Must search the Avery site for Safewair1 kit/tubing. Cheers, Larry N852LW On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Larry Wheat wrote: > I came up woth another supplier which I have used. They are an aircraft > supplier and have the fittings and the tubing in the various colors to keep > the function clear. http://www.averytools.com/searchprods.asp Hope this > will help as well. Cheers, Larry N852LW > > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Larry Wheat wrote: > >> In my particular build (Pulsar III) the suggested mount in on the forward >> inspection plate outside of the left fuel cell. I routed the AOA and AS >> lines behind the fuel cell and into the wing root. Then it was a matter of >> routing inside the fuselage to the appropriate gauges and sensors. I used >> the Push to Connect fittings. I have enclosed several places to buy >> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=pneumatic+push+fittings (tubing), >> http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Overview/Catalog/Pneumatic_Components/Pneumatic_Fittings_-a-_Air_Couplings/Push-to-Connect_Pneumatic_Fittings_(Thermoplastic)(all kinds of fittings), Hope this helps. Cheers, Larry N852LW >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:36 AM, p32gxy wrote: >> >>> >>> Larry, >>> >>> That looks like exquisite workmanship! >>> >>> Would you mind sharing more details regarding your install? >>> >>> For example, is it attached before or aft of the main spar? Where did >>> you route the tubes/cables? >>> >>> Could you describe the materials used in designing the inspection plate? >>> Did you just cut a hole in the wing skin, are my eyes deceiving me, it >>> seems that the back plate is recessed somewhat... >>> >>> Thx >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=406056#406056 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Larry Wheat >> > > > -- > Larry Wheat > -- Larry Wheat ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:39 PM PST US Subject: Pulsar-List: Re: Pitot (angle of attack - Dynon) From: "p32gxy" So the inspection plate assemblies came with your Pulsar III kit?... I have a Pulsar XP and was wondering if I can/should do something similar... the questions really is how the wings differ on the two pulsars? There must be structural differences as the III has a higher gross... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=406087#406087 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:06:50 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Pitot (angle of attack - Dynon) From: Scott - Special Effects Armourer I am thinking my XP would take the loading of the pitot if mounted on the inspection hatch but it only has 4 small screws. My repair guy/inspector thinks it may be viewed as a modification that requires in-depth planning and proposals so I will suggest the hatch rather than going into a piece of virgin surface. Thanks for sharing. Scott UK +44 7860 208432 US +1 (818) 397 0666 scott@s-f-x.com On 6 Aug 2013, at 22:25, "p32gxy" wrote: > > So the inspection plate assemblies came with your Pulsar III kit?... I have a Pulsar XP and was wondering if I can/should do something similar... the questions really is how the wings differ on the two pulsars? > > There must be structural differences as the III has a higher gross... > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=406087#406087 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Pitot (angle of attack - Dynon) From: Larry Wheat You had to fabricate the plates. What I did was cut the size hole you need and save the cutout circle. I then glassed 3 layers of glass on one side and trimmed to give me a 3/8" edge. Sanded, filled and paint the same as the wing. On the wing I fabed another layup of 4 layers and cutout a circle to give me a "shoulder" to glue to the inside of the wing. After fabricating and trimming I installed 5 blind nuts. You want to use the type that will give a little play in the captive nut portion. You have to do some fidgeting at this point to get the shelf into the wing. Place In the wing using Hysol adhesive. How you index to get the holes to line up is up to you. I just laid the fabed inspection plate over the made shelf and marked and drilled the five holes and marked the location with a felt tip pen. It is kind of a pane but they turn out real well. If you want I can take some close up pics to further illustrate what I am telling you. Cheers, Larry N852LW On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 2:25 PM, p32gxy wrote: > > So the inspection plate assemblies came with your Pulsar III kit?... I > have a Pulsar XP and was wondering if I can/should do something similar... > the questions really is how the wings differ on the two pulsars? > > There must be structural differences as the III has a higher gross... > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=406087#406087 > > -- Larry Wheat ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:36:33 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Pitot (angle of attack - Dynon) From: Bernard Wilder I have an XP and I have two inspection holes on the underside of each wing. Checked it out with Aero Designs first who said go head. No problems after 13 years. Bernie Wilder On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:25 PM, p32gxy wrote: > > So the inspection plate assemblies came with your Pulsar III kit?... I have a Pulsar XP and was wondering if I can/should do something similar... the questions really is how the wings differ on the two pulsars? > > There must be structural differences as the III has a higher gross... > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=406087#406087 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pulsar-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pulsar-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pulsar-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pulsar-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.