---------------------------------------------------------- Pulsar-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/13/14: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:07 AM - Fretted Crankcase (barrynorman@comcast.net) 2. 08:41 AM - Re: Fretted Crankcase (Keith Palmer) 3. 04:00 PM - Re: Fretted Crankcase (Guy Sirois) 4. 06:28 PM - Re: Fretted Crankcase (barrynorman@comcast.net) 5. 09:35 PM - Re: Fretted Crankcase (Keith Palmer) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:11 AM PST US From: barrynorman@comcast.net Subject: Pulsar-List: Fretted Crankcase I finally got the crankcase split this past weekend and confirmed that it was indeed crankcase fretting. Here are the pictures: http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/bgnorma/library/ This only after 468 hours. I ordered the new parts from Lockwood and they were kind enough to give me a good faith discount but the parts were still over $4200. They are going to try to get some relief from Rotax but I doubt they will do anything from all that I have heard. Everything else appeared to be in good order. The bearings where fine and the crank measures fine. It could probably use a little polishing but that's it. Overall, it's a very simple engine inside. Nothing too complicated. The new crankcase uses different fasteners and is designed a bit different. There are some bolts that are torqued and then stretched x amount of degrees. They also use a thread sleeve to clamp the crankcase together instead of relying on the long studs that go through the jug and the head to also clamp the case. Waiting on the parts to arrive. Barry ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:57 AM PST US From: "Keith Palmer" Subject: RE: Pulsar-List: Fretted Crankcase Good Luck Barry =93 Hope it all goes well for you. K=99d From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of barrynorman@comcast.net Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:06 PM Subject: Pulsar-List: Fretted Crankcase I finally got the crankcase split this past weekend and confirmed that it was indeed crankcase fretting. Here are the pictures: http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/bgnorma/library/ This only after 468 hours. I ordered the new parts from Lockwood and they were kind enough to give me a good faith discount but the parts were still over $4200. They are going to try to get some relief from Rotax but I doubt they will do anything from all that I have heard. Everything else appeared to be in good order. The bearings where fine and the crank measures fine. It could probably use a little polishing but that's it. Overall, it's a very simple engine inside. Nothing too complicated. The new crankcase uses different fasteners and is designed a bit different. There are some bolts that are torqued and then stretched x amount of degrees. They also use a thread sleeve to clamp the crankcase together instead of relying on the long studs that go through the jug and the head to also clamp the case. Waiting on the parts to arrive. Barry ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:00:40 PM PST US From: Guy Sirois Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Fretted Crankcase Barry, This should logically be covered by a Rotax warranty. This is obviously a manufacturing defect, or rather a "design" defect. If they do not want to honor any repair warranty on this, AT LEAST they should supply replacement parts at a nominal very low cost. It's incredible how much that company despises its customers. It's the perfect example of a large company run by lawyers and having the monopoly of their market. Damn I wish that some Japanese company would decide to make a competitive engine, at half the price. That would end this undeserved domination. Guy On 13/10/2014 11:06 AM, barrynorman@comcast.net wrote: > I finally got the crankcase split this past weekend and > confirmed that it was indeed crankcase fretting. Here are the > pictures: http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/bgnorma/library/ > > This only after 468 hours. I ordered the new parts from > Lockwood and they were kind enough to give me a good faith > discount but the parts were still over $4200. They are going > to try to get some relief from Rotax but I doubt they will do > anything from all that I have heard. > > Everything else appeared to be in good order. The bearings > where fine and the crank measures fine. It could probably use > a little polishing but that's it. Overall, it's a very simple > engine inside. Nothing too complicated. > > The new crankcase uses different fasteners and is designed a > bit different. There are some bolts that are torqued and then > stretched x amount of degrees. They also use a thread sleeve > to clamp the crankcase together instead of relying on the long > studs that go through the jug and the head to also clamp the case. > > Waiting on the parts to arrive. > > Barry > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:28:55 PM PST US From: barrynorman@comcast.net Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Fretted Crankcase Guy, I agree whole heartily. They should be a lot more responsive but we'll see what they do. For now I'm learning a lot about their product and glad it never stopped during flight. I feel very blessed to be on the ground fixing it and not in the ground. Thanks for all the support. Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Sirois" Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:59:58 PM Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Fretted Crankcase Barry, This should logically be covered by a Rotax warranty. This is obviously a manufacturing defect, or rather a "design" defect. If they do not want to honor any repair warranty on this, AT LEAST they should supply replacement parts at a nominal very low cost. It's incredible how much that company despises its customers. It's the perfect example of a large company run by lawyers and having the monopoly of their market. Damn I wish that some Japanese company would decide to make a competitive engine, at half the price. That would end this undeserved domination. Guy On 13/10/2014 11:06 AM, barrynorman@comcast.net wrote: > I finally got the crankcase split this past weekend and > confirmed that it was indeed crankcase fretting. Here are the > pictures: http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/bgnorma/library/ > > This only after 468 hours. I ordered the new parts from > Lockwood and they were kind enough to give me a good faith > discount but the parts were still over $4200. They are going > to try to get some relief from Rotax but I doubt they will do > anything from all that I have heard. > > Everything else appeared to be in good order. The bearings > where fine and the crank measures fine. It could probably use > a little polishing but that's it. Overall, it's a very simple > engine inside. Nothing too complicated. > > The new crankcase uses different fasteners and is designed a > bit different. There are some bolts that are torqued and then > stretched x amount of degrees. They also use a thread sleeve > to clamp the crankcase together instead of relying on the long > studs that go through the jug and the head to also clamp the case. > > Waiting on the parts to arrive. > > Barry > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:24 PM PST US From: "Keith Palmer" Subject: RE: Pulsar-List: Fretted Crankcase Remember they have to be very careful about admitting liability, otherwise it could be used against them in bigger law suits later. K=99d From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of barryno law suits rman@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:28 AM Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Fretted Crankcase Guy, I agree whole heartily. They should be a lot more responsive but we'll see what they do. For now I'm learning a lot about their product and glad it never stopped during flight. I feel very blessed to be on the ground fixing it and not in the ground. Thanks for all the support. Barry _____ From: "Guy Sirois" Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:59:58 PM Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Fretted Crankcase Barry, This should logically be covered by a Rotax warranty. This is obviously a manufacturing defect, or rather a "design" defect. If they do not want to honor any repair warranty on this, AT LEAST they should supply replacement parts at a nominal very low cost. It's incredible how much that company despises its customers. It's the perfect example of a large company run by lawyers and having the monopoly of their market. Damn I wish that some Japanese company would decide to make a competitive engine, at half the price. That would end this undeserved domination. Guy On 13/10/2014 11:06 AM, barrynorman@comcast.net wrote: > I finally got the crankcase split this past weekend and > confirmed that it was indeed crankcase fretting. Here are the > pictures: http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/bgnorma/library/ > > This only after 468 hours. I ordered the new parts from > Lockwood and they were kind enough to give me a good faith > discount but the parts were still over $4200. They are going > to try to get some relief from Rotax but I doubt they will do > anything from all that I have heard. > > Everything else appeared to be in good order. The bearings > where fine and the crank measures fine. It could probably use > a little polishing but that's it. Overall, it's a very simple > engine inside. Nothing too complicated. > > The new crankcase uses different fasteners and is designed a > bit different. There are some bolts that are torqued and then > stretched x amount of degrees. They also use a thread sleeve > to clamp the crankcase together instead of relying on the long > studs that go through the jug and the head to also clamp the case. > > Waiting on the parts to arrive. > -Matt Dralle, List ========= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pulsar-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pulsar-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pulsar-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pulsar-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.