---------------------------------------------------------- Pulsar-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 01/30/17: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:21 AM - Re: 912 Ignition Modules (Esa Lehto) 2. 07:58 AM - Re: 912 Ignition Modules (Ray Thurman) 3. 08:45 AM - Re: 912 Ignition Modules (Esa Lehto) 4. 05:08 PM - Re: 912 Ignition Modules (barrynorman@comcast.net) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:14 AM PST US From: Esa Lehto Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: 912 Ignition Modules Good to hear that the problem is fixed! My friend purchased couple of weeks ago two ignition modules for his 912S h owever the faulty part was Stator assembly. If some of you have urgent need for new ignition modules please let me know . FYI, you can't return those event they are never installed. EsaPulsar XP From: "barrynorman@comcast.net" To: pulsar-list Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 5:59 PM Subject: Pulsar-List: 912 Ignition Modules It's been a long time since I've posted anything but thought I'd share with the group. =C2-I had been up north all last year working while my plane was in SC so it hadn't been flown in awhile. Before I had gone up north I h ad to swap out the crankcase due to crankcase fretting which cost about 5K in parts and Lockwood wanted another 5K in labor to do the task. Needless t o say, I did it myself. I flew it for about 10 hours with no problem but no ticed it was getting harder to start when cold. Anyway, this January I star ted getting the plane in shape to fly again and I couldn't get it to start at all. As it turns out, both CDI modules had gone bad. After doing some re search, I found out this was a common problem for 06-08 912S engines. Same as the issue with the faulty crankcases, neither of which Rotax would warra nty. They claim the high temps under the cowl may shorten the life of the m odules. Mine only had 400 hours on it. The interesting thing is, Ducati use d to make the modules and now Rotax does to the tune of $900 each. My under standing is that there were so many modules failing last year that people h ad to wait weeks on them because they couldn't supply them fast enough.=C2 - So, if you notice the engine is getting hard to start when cold, you may ha ve the same problem. =C2-Interesting part is that if it does start, as th e modules warm up, the engine will start almost every time until cold again . I was able to get the engine to start with the old modules just by heatin g the modules up to about 110 degrees F. The new modules do come with the s oft start built in which works well. Hope everyone is getting out there and fling a little. Cheers,Barry ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:35 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: 912 Ignition Modules From: Ray Thurman I could use one or two but I have the older 4 pin models and I'm not sure if the 912S 6 pin is compatible. Ray On 1/30/2017 7:20 AM, Esa Lehto wrote: > Good to hear that the problem is fixed! > > My friend purchased couple of weeks ago two ignition modules for his > 912S however the faulty part was Stator assembly. > > If some of you have urgent need for new ignition modules please let me > know. FYI, you can't return those event they are never installed. > > Esa > Pulsar XP > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* "barrynorman@comcast.net" > *To:* pulsar-list > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2017 5:59 PM > *Subject:* Pulsar-List: 912 Ignition Modules > > It's been a long time since I've posted anything but thought I'd share > with the group. I had been up north all last year working while my > plane was in SC so it hadn't been flown in awhile. Before I had gone > up north I had to swap out the crankcase due to crankcase fretting > which cost about 5K in parts and Lockwood wanted another 5K in labor > to do the task. Needless to say, I did it myself. I flew it for about > 10 hours with no problem but noticed it was getting harder to start > when cold. Anyway, this January I started getting the plane in shape > to fly again and I couldn't get it to start at all. As it turns out, > both CDI modules had gone bad. After doing some research, I found out > this was a common problem for 06-08 912S engines. Same as the issue > with the faulty crankcases, neither of which Rotax would warranty. > They claim the high temps under the cowl may shorten the life of the > modules. Mine only had 400 hours on it. The interesting thing is, > Ducati used to make the modules and now Rotax does to the tune of $900 > each. My understanding is that there were so many modules failing last > year that people had to wait weeks on them because they couldn't > supply them fast enough. > > So, if you notice the engine is getting hard to start when cold, you > may have the same problem. Interesting part is that if it does start, > as the modules warm up, the engine will start almost every time until > cold again. I was able to get the engine to start with the old modules > just by heating the modules up to about 110 degrees F. The new modules > do come with the soft start built in which works well. > > Hope everyone is getting out there and fling a little. > > Cheers, > Barry > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:45 AM PST US From: Esa Lehto Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: 912 Ignition Modules I'll reach my friend and let you know. Esa From: Ray Thurman To: pulsar-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:58 AM Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: 912 Ignition Modules I could use one or two but I have the older 4 pin models and I'm not sure if the 912S 6 pin is compatible. Ray On 1/30/2017 7:20 AM, Esa Lehto wrote: Good to hear that the problem is fixed! My friend purchased couple of weeks ago two ignition modules for his 912S however the faulty part was Stator assembly. If some of you have urgent need for new ignition modules please let me kn ow. FYI, you can't return those event they are never installed. Esa Pulsar XP From: "barrynorman@comcast.net" To: pulsar-list Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 5:59 PM Subject: Pulsar-List: 912 Ignition Modules It's been a long time since I've posted anything but thought I'd share with the group. =C2-I had been up north all last year working while my pl ane was in SC so it hadn't been flown in awhile. Before I had gone up nort h I had to swap out the crankcase due to crankcase fretting which cost abou t 5K in parts and Lockwood wanted another 5K in labor to do the task. Needl ess to say, I did it myself. I flew it for about 10 hours with no problem b ut noticed it was getting harder to start when cold. Anyway, this January I started getting the plane in shape to fly again and I couldn't get it to s tart at all. As it turns out, both CDI modules had gone bad. After doing so me research, I found out this was a common problem for 06-08 912S engines. Same as the issue with the faulty crankcases, neither of which Rotax would warranty. They claim the high temps under the cowl may shorten the life of the modules. Mine only had 400 hours on it. The interesting thing is, Duca ti used to make the modules and now Rotax does to the tune of $900 each. M y understanding is that there were so many modules failing last year that p eople had to wait weeks on them because they couldn't supply them fast enou gh.=C2- So, if you notice the engine is getting hard to start when cold, you may have the same problem. =C2-Interesting part is that if it does start, as the modules warm up, the engine will start almost every time until cold aga in. I was able to get the engine to start with the old modules just by heat ing the modules up to about 110 degrees F. The new modules do come with the soft start built in which works well. Hope everyone is getting out there and fling a little. Cheers, Barry ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:08:18 PM PST US From: barrynorman@comcast.net Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: 912 Ignition Modules I have a couple of the older modules. Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Thurman" Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 10:58:08 AM Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: 912 Ignition Modules I could use one or two but I have the older 4 pin models and I'm not sure i f the 912S 6 pin is compatible. Ray On 1/30/2017 7:20 AM, Esa Lehto wrote: Good to hear that the problem is fixed! My friend purchased couple of weeks ago two ignition modules for his 912S h owever the faulty part was Stator assembly. If some of you have urgent need for new ignition modules please let me know . FYI, you can't return those event they are never installed. Esa Pulsar XP From: "barrynorman@comcast.net" Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 5:59 PM Subject: Pulsar-List: 912 Ignition Modules It's been a long time since I've posted anything but thought I'd share with the group. I had been up north all last year working while my plane was in SC so it hadn't been flown in awhile. Before I had gone up north I had to swap out the crankcase due to crankcase fretting which cost about 5K in par ts and Lockwood wanted another 5K in labor to do the task. Needless to say, I did it myself. I flew it for about 10 hours with no problem but noticed it was getting harder to start when cold. Anyway, this January I started ge tting the plane in shape to fly again and I couldn't get it to start at all . As it turns out, both CDI modules had gone bad. After doing some research , I found out this was a common problem for 06-08 912S engines. Same as the issue with the faulty crankcases, neither of which Rotax would warranty. T hey claim the high temps under the cowl may shorten the life of the modules . Mine only had 400 hours on it. The interesting thing is, Ducati used to m ake the modules and now Rotax does to the tune of $900 each. My understandi ng is that there were so many modules failing last year that people had to wait weeks on them because they couldn't supply them fast enough. So, if you notice the engine is getting hard to start when cold, you may ha ve the same problem. Interesting part is that if it does start, as the modu les warm up, the engine will start almost every time until cold again. I wa s able to get the engine to start with the old modules just by heating the modules up to about 110 degrees F. The new modules do come with the soft st art built in which works well. Hope everyone is getting out there and fling a little. Cheers, Barry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pulsar-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pulsar-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pulsar-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pulsar-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.