---------------------------------------------------------- Pulsar-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/25/18: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:21 AM - Fuel pump failure (Jim Fillman) 2. 10:45 AM - Re: Fuel pump failure (Bill) 3. 02:28 PM - Re: Fuel pump failure (Phil Ishmael) 4. 02:33 PM - Re: Fuel pump failure (Jim Fillman) 5. 03:04 PM - Re: Fuel pump failure (Phil Ishmael) 6. 03:43 PM - Re: Fuel pump failure (Bernard Wilder) 7. 04:47 PM - Re: Fuel pump failure (Jim Fillman) 8. 10:07 PM - Numbers (Bernard Wilder) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:32 AM PST US From: "Jim Fillman" Subject: Pulsar-List: Fuel pump failure Greetings Pulsar drivers, The mechanical fuel pump failed during my most recent flight, not on the fuel side but on the oil side. I lost oil pressure crossing to downwind at my home airport and was able to pull power and land without incident. Unless you want to call oil all over the engine compartment (especially co-pilot side) and drooling out of the cowl to coat the underbelly an incident. I originally thought it must be a blown oil hose but finding none, finally traced it to the lower weep hole of the fuel pump. My questions to the group: 1. Have you ever had or heard of a fuel pump failure of this type? 2. Is there a recommend non-Rotax replacement part that might be cheaper than the $176 Rotax part? Jim N623JF Rotax 912S ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Fuel pump failure From: Bill Jim, Quite the lucky incident, glad you weren't hurt. Best Regards, Bill C: 512-415-2991 On 6/25/2018 12:21 PM, Jim Fillman wrote: > > Greetings Pulsar drivers, > > The mechanical fuel pump failed during my most recent flight, not on > the fuel side but on the oil side. I lost oil pressure crossing to > downwind at my home airport and was able to pull power and land > without incident. Unless you want to call oil all over the engine > compartment (especially co-pilot side) and drooling out of the cowl to > coat the underbelly an incident. I originally thought it must be a > blown oil hose but finding none, finally traced it to the lower weep > hole of the fuel pump. > > My questions to the group: > > 1. Have you ever had or heard of a fuel pump failure of this type? > 2. Is there a recommend non-Rotax replacement part that might be > cheaper than the $176 Rotax part? > > Jim > > N623JF > > Rotax 912S > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:28:11 PM PST US From: Phil Ishmael Subject: RE: Pulsar-List: Fuel pump failure Was it the newer =93Corona=94 style pump? [cid:image001.jpg@01D40CA1.6BCC3500] Phil From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-serv er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Fillman Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 12:21 PM Subject: Pulsar-List: Fuel pump failure Greetings Pulsar drivers, The mechanical fuel pump failed during my most recent flight, not on the fu el side but on the oil side. I lost oil pressure crossing to downwind at my home airport and was able to pull power and land without incident. Unless you want to call oil all over the engine compartment (especially co-pilot s ide) and drooling out of the cowl to coat the underbelly an incident. I ori ginally thought it must be a blown oil hose but finding none, finally trace d it to the lower weep hole of the fuel pump. My questions to the group: 1. Have you ever had or heard of a fuel pump failure of this type? 2. Is there a recommend non-Rotax replacement part that might be cheaper than the $176 Rotax part? Jim N623JF Rotax 912S ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:33:33 PM PST US From: "Jim Fillman" Subject: RE: Pulsar-List: Fuel pump failure No, it was original with my engine from 2009 timeframe. Why do you ask? From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com On Behalf Of Phil Ishmael Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 3:28 PM Subject: RE: Pulsar-List: Fuel pump failure Was it the newer "Corona" style pump? Phil From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Fillman Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 12:21 PM ; pulsar-list@matronics.com Subject: Pulsar-List: Fuel pump failure Greetings Pulsar drivers, The mechanical fuel pump failed during my most recent flight, not on the fuel side but on the oil side. I lost oil pressure crossing to downwind at my home airport and was able to pull power and land without incident. Unless you want to call oil all over the engine compartment (especially co-pilot side) and drooling out of the cowl to coat the underbelly an incident. I originally thought it must be a blown oil hose but finding none, finally traced it to the lower weep hole of the fuel pump. My questions to the group: 1. Have you ever had or heard of a fuel pump failure of this type? 2. Is there a recommend non-Rotax replacement part that might be cheaper than the $176 Rotax part? Jim N623JF Rotax 912S ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:04:44 PM PST US From: Phil Ishmael Subject: RE: Pulsar-List: Fuel pump failure Rotax issued a SB a few years back and offered a kit that required shipping back the old pump=85I replaced mine at that time for $100. The part numbe r is listed below on the outside chance they=92re still in stock somewhere. [cid:image002.png@01D40CA5.E610B9E0] Good luck! Phil From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-serv er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Fillman Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 4:33 PM Subject: RE: Pulsar-List: Fuel pump failure No, it was original with my engine from 2009 timeframe. Why do you ask? From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com On Behalf Of Phil Ishmael Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 3:28 PM Subject: RE: Pulsar-List: Fuel pump failure Was it the newer =93Corona=94 style pump? [cid:image003.jpg@01D40CA5.E610B9E0] Phil From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Fillman Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 12:21 PM ; pulsar-list@matronics.com Subject: Pulsar-List: Fuel pump failure Greetings Pulsar drivers, The mechanical fuel pump failed during my most recent flight, not on the fu el side but on the oil side. I lost oil pressure crossing to downwind at my home airport and was able to pull power and land without incident. Unless you want to call oil all over the engine compartment (especially co-pilot s ide) and drooling out of the cowl to coat the underbelly an incident. I ori ginally thought it must be a blown oil hose but finding none, finally trace d it to the lower weep hole of the fuel pump. My questions to the group: 1. Have you ever had or heard of a fuel pump failure of this type? 2. Is there a recommend non-Rotax replacement part that might be cheaper than the $176 Rotax part? Jim N623JF Rotax 912S ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:43:50 PM PST US From: Bernard Wilder Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Fuel pump failure Jim, I have a brand new fuel pump - - extra. Bought when others were having a problem. Never needed it. I'll look at it this PM for the numbers and let you know exactly what it is. Stopped flying 390XP after my 85th B'day. I know I can fly just as well as when I was 84, but others - - - - - - I pulled the engine out of my Pulsar just this afternoon. The 912 UL is for sale. My son (( a Delta 777 and RV-6 pilot )) and I are exploring converting the Pulsar to electric. We don't know what to hell we are doing, but hey,, it's an experimental, isn't it ? ? ? Bernie Wilder On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Jim Fillman wrote: > Greetings Pulsar drivers, > > > The mechanical fuel pump failed during my most recent flight, not on the > fuel side but on the oil side. I lost oil pressure crossing to downwind at > my home airport and was able to pull power and land without incident. > Unless you want to call oil all over the engine compartment (especially > co-pilot side) and drooling out of the cowl to coat the underbelly an > incident. I originally thought it must be a blown oil hose but finding > none, finally traced it to the lower weep hole of the fuel pump. > > > My questions to the group: > > > 1. Have you ever had or heard of a fuel pump failure of this type? > 2. Is there a recommend non-Rotax replacement part that might be > cheaper than the $176 Rotax part? > > > Jim > > N623JF > > Rotax 912S > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:47:36 PM PST US From: "Jim Fillman" Subject: RE: Pulsar-List: Fuel pump failure Bernie, That would be great if it=99s a match. The number stamped on it is 08-002579. Jim From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com On Behalf Of Bernard Wilder Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 4:43 PM Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Fuel pump failure Jim, I have a brand new fuel pump - - extra. Bought when others were having a problem. Never needed it. I'll look at it this PM for the numbers and let you know exactly what it is. Stopped flying 390XP after my 85th B'day. I know I can fly just as well as when I was 84, but others - - - - - - I pulled the engine out of my Pulsar just this afternoon. The 912 UL is for sale. My son (( a Delta 777 and RV-6 pilot )) and I are exploring converting the Pulsar to electric. We don't know what to hell we are doing, but hey,, it's an experimental, isn't it ? ? ? Bernie Wilder On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Jim Fillman > wrote: Greetings Pulsar drivers, The mechanical fuel pump failed during my most recent flight, not on the fuel side but on the oil side. I lost oil pressure crossing to downwind at my home airport and was able to pull power and land without incident. Unless you want to call oil all over the engine compartment (especially co-pilot side) and drooling out of the cowl to coat the underbelly an incident. I originally thought it must be a blown oil hose but finding none, finally traced it to the lower weep hole of the fuel pump. My questions to the group: 1. Have you ever had or heard of a fuel pump failure of this type? 2. Is there a recommend non-Rotax replacement part that might be cheaper than the $176 Rotax part? Jim N623JF Rotax 912S ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:07:55 PM PST US From: Bernard Wilder Subject: Pulsar-List: Numbers Jim, My pump was purchased way back. Someone in the group identified this model. Supposed to be a direct replacement for the Rotax expensive one. Top is stamped "PIERBURG". Under that in small letters is "W. Germany". On the side of the pump is: 7 20 971 55 9-250 Someone at least 10 years ago IDed it and bought a bunch, as I remember. Several of us bought them. I guess it is a German after market Physically it is identical with the one on the engine. Maybe someone remembers where they came from. 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