---------------------------------------------------------- Pulsar-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/19/18: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:43 PM - Instrument Panel (Bill) 2. 04:57 PM - Re: Instrument Panel (Dennis Adams) 3. 05:23 PM - Re: Instrument Panel (Bill) 4. 05:45 PM - Re: Instrument Panel (Dennis Adams) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:43:09 PM PST US From: Bill Subject: Pulsar-List: Instrument Panel I do not remember ever seeing any mention of how anyone has built their instrument panel. I am working on mine and while I have ideas on what I'm going to do, I would appreciate seeing what others have done. I plan to use Dynon Skyview so the closest panel I've found is the one below by Thomas S. He used the older D10 series with what looks like a Garmin 430. Attached is an image of what I plan to do The Avidyne IFD440 is on the left so I can dial it in while flying with my right hand. The front panel is easy to figure out but how others supported the deep instruments is where I have questions. For now, I'm planning to build in another support panel about 10" behind the front one so I can strap the back of the IFD440 and have a place to mount other items, like the engine monitor. Notice, I do not plan to have the center panel so the bottom front of the panel is an angle bracket for rigidity. -- Best Regards, Bill C: 512-415-2991 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:54 PM PST US From: Dennis Adams Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Instrument Panel Bill, I built the panel for an XP -2009 and an RV9 (in progress). Some thoughts for the XP: I did not like the center panel either, not enough room to move my legs so I used metal it is heavier but you cut out most of the metal any way. I used longer wires so the panel is removable and can be positioned on a board that goes across the fuselage. I like the idea of a sub panel for hanging excess wires and components. I used fuses with an LED light that goes out if the fuse is blown. For the RV9 I found fuses that light if the fuse is blown. I consider fuses safer than relays as relays are a heat/mechanical device. I carry spare fuses color coded per location. I installed a Dynon D180 in the XP, no problems since 2009. I originally installed a vacuum system but took it out since it was not reliable, heavy and not necessary with my other instruments. I also fly with and Ipad mini 4 using Foreflight with Scout for ADS-B in and navigation. This backs up to my I phone and I mount it on a knee padi. I wired in Aux power I have a two axis autopilot and fly with controlled steering, now WASS I carry a hand held radio for backup. I have running lights, strobes, and landing lights all LED. All systems are individually switched. Here are some pictures of the XP For the RV, same ideas used except I installed a Dynon Skyview with all the Skyview subsystems. I installed a fuse panel with spars if I forget something or for expansion later. It has ADSB in and out. I also installed 4 usb ports, Vertial Power Sport for all electronics power controls, and dimmed LSD panel lights. The last picture is of the RV 9 panel you can see that the panel is much simpler with room for expansion. I still will fly with Foreflight as it will talk to Skyview for rout planning. Dennis Adams On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 3:47 PM Bill wrote: > I do not remember ever seeing any mention of how anyone has built their > instrument panel. I am working on mine and while I have ideas on what I'm > going to do, I would appreciate seeing what others have done. > > I plan to use Dynon Skyview so the closest panel I've found is the one > below by Thomas S. He used the older D10 series with what looks like a > Garmin 430. Attached is an image of what I plan to do The Avidyne IFD440 > is on the left so I can dial it in while flying with my right hand. The > front panel is easy to figure out but how others supported the deep > instruments is where I have questions. For now, I'm planning to build in > another support panel about 10" behind the front one so I can strap the > back of the IFD440 and have a place to mount other items, like the engine > monitor. Notice, I do not plan to have the center panel so the bottom > front of the panel is an angle bracket for rigidity. > > > -- > Best Regards, Bill > C: 512-415-2991 > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:01 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Instrument Panel From: Bill Dennis, Thanks for the pictures. I also plan to use the Vertical power Sport for wiring so I can do away with fuses and circuit breakers. It looks like you didn't install an autopilot so you got away with fewer Dynon boxes. The Avidyne is in there so I can fly IFR. I've found that flying cross country and not being equipped to handle IFR is a really bad idea. Best Regards, Bill C: 512-415-2991 On 8/19/2018 6:56 PM, Dennis Adams wrote: > Bill, > > I built the panel for an XP -2009 and an RV9 (in progress). Some > thoughts for the XP: > > I did not like the center panel either, not enough room to move my > legs so I used metal it is heavier but you cut out most of the metal > any way. > > I used longer wires so the panel is removable and can be positioned on > a board that goes across the fuselage. > > I like the idea of a sub panel for hanging excess wires and components. > > I used fuses with an LED light that goes out if the fuse is blown. > For the RV9 I found fuses that light if the fuse is blown. I consider > fuses safer than relays as relays are a heat/mechanical device. I > carry spare fuses color coded per location. > > I installed a Dynon D180 in the XP, no problems since 2009. > > I originally installed a vacuum system but took it out since it was > not reliable, heavy and not necessary with my other instruments. > > I also fly with and Ipad mini 4 using Foreflight with Scout for ADS-B > in and navigation. This backs up to my I phone and I mount it on a > knee padi. I wired in Aux power > > I have a two axis autopilot and fly with controlled steering, now WASS > > I carry a hand held radio for backup. > > I have running lights, strobes, and landing lights all LED. > > All systems are individually switched. > > Here are some pictures of the XP > > For the RV, same ideas used except I installed a Dynon Skyview with > all the Skyview subsystems. I installed a fuse panel with spars if I > forget something or for expansion later. It has ADSB in and out. I > also installed 4 usb ports, Vertial Power Sport for all electronics > power controls, and dimmed LSD panel lights. The last picture is of > the RV 9 panel you can see that the panel is much simpler with room > for expansion. I still will fly with Foreflight as it will talk to > Skyview for rout planning. > > Dennis Adams > > > On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 3:47 PM Bill > wrote: > > I do not remember ever seeing any mention of how anyone has built > their instrument panel. I am working on mine and while I have > ideas on what I'm going to do, I would appreciate seeing what > others have done. > > I plan to use Dynon Skyview so the closest panel I've found is the > one below by Thomas S. He used the older D10 series with what > looks like a Garmin 430. Attached is an image of what I plan to > do The Avidyne IFD440 is on the left so I can dial it in while > flying with my right hand. The front panel is easy to figure out > but how others supported the deep instruments is where I have > questions. For now, I'm planning to build in another support panel > about 10" behind the front one so I can strap the back of the > IFD440 and have a place to mount other items, like the engine > monitor. Notice, I do not plan to have the center panel so the > bottom front of the panel is an angle bracket for rigidity. > > > -- > Best Regards, Bill > C: 512-415-2991 > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:28 PM PST US From: Dennis Adams Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Instrument Panel Bill, Right, I do not fly IFR. The Rv panel does have a Dynon auto pilot. Dennis Sent from an IPad On Aug 19, 2018, at 6:22 PM, Bill wrote: Dennis, Thanks for the pictures. I also plan to use the Vertical power Sport for wi ring so I can do away with fuses and circuit breakers. It looks like you di dn't install an autopilot so you got away with fewer Dynon boxes. The Avidy ne is in there so I can fly IFR. I've found that flying cross country and n ot being equipped to handle IFR is a really bad idea. Best Regards, Bill C: 512-415-2991 > On 8/19/2018 6:56 PM, Dennis Adams wrote: > Bill, > > I built the panel for an XP -2009 and an RV9 (in progress). Some thought s for the XP: > > I did not like the center panel either, not enough room to move my legs so I used metal it is heavier but you cut out most of the metal any way. > > I used longer wires so the panel is removable and can be positioned on a b oard that goes across the fuselage. > > I like the idea of a sub panel for hanging excess wires and components. > > I used fuses with an LED light that goes out if the fuse is blown. For th e RV9 I found fuses that light if the fuse is blown. I consider fuses safer than relays as relays are a heat/mechanical device. I carry spare fuses co lor coded per location. > > I installed a Dynon D180 in the XP, no problems since 2009. > > I originally installed a vacuum system but took it out since it was not re liable, heavy and not necessary with my other instruments. > > I also fly with and Ipad mini 4 using Foreflight with Scout for ADS-B in a nd navigation. This backs up to my I phone and I mount it on a knee padi. I wired in Aux power > > I have a two axis autopilot and fly with controlled steering, now WASS > > I carry a hand held radio for backup. > > I have running lights, strobes, and landing lights all LED. > > All systems are individually switched. > > Here are some pictures of the XP > > For the RV, same ideas used except I installed a Dynon Skyview with all th e Skyview subsystems. I installed a fuse panel with spars if I forget somet hing or for expansion later. It has ADSB in and out. I also installed 4 us b ports, Vertial Power Sport for all electronics power controls, and dimmed L SD panel lights. The last picture is of the RV 9 panel you can see that the panel is much simpler with room for expansion. I still will fly with Foref light as it will talk to Skyview for rout planning. > > Dennis Adams > > > >> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 3:47 PM Bill wrote: >> I do not remember ever seeing any mention of how anyone has built their i nstrument panel. I am working on mine and while I have ideas on what I'm go ing to do, I would appreciate seeing what others have done. >> >> I plan to use Dynon Skyview so the closest panel I've found is the one be low by Thomas S. He used the older D10 series with what looks like a Garmin 430. Attached is an image of what I plan to do The Avidyne IFD440 is on t he left so I can dial it in while flying with my right hand. The front pane l is easy to figure out but how others supported the deep instruments is whe re I have questions. For now, I'm planning to build in another support pane l about 10" behind the front one so I can strap the back of the IFD440 and h ave a place to mount other items, like the engine monitor. Notice, I do not plan to have the center panel so the bottom front of the panel is an angle b racket for rigidity. >> >> >> >> -- >> Best Regards, Bill >> C: 512-415-2991 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pulsar-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pulsar-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pulsar-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pulsar-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.