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1. 12:17 AM - Re: Seat Belts (Norman)
2. 07:03 AM - Re: Seat Belts (Boyd C. Braem)
3. 09:34 AM - Fw: RV-List: open slider in flight (John Starn)
4. 10:54 AM - CanopyCravings (JOHNTMEY@aol.com)
5. 12:03 PM - Re: CanopyCravings (Boyd C. Braem)
6. 05:04 PM - Re: Seat Belts (Norman)
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
I was doing a custom car seatbelt about a year ago. I took a belt I needed
modified out to my upolstery shop guy. He had a big sewing machine that did
it no problem. He didn't seem to be concerned about liability but I would
bet some would be. Old style shoe repair places should have the same type of
machine too. Try either, use the yellow pages to find one near you.
About using old belts:
The league I race in has a three year rule on seat belts. Our belts have to
have a date tag on them. We can also fail tech inspection if our belts are
considered dried out. Just how old are these military surplus belts you
have?
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
> Rocket Listers: I am needing some help in finding someone that can sew
up
> some seat belts for me. I have some surplus military troupe belts for
> Helios which I need to have modified for use in my project. I've tried to
> contact Rob Huntsinger at Pacific Aero with not success and I hear he has
> quit the seat belt business. Can anyone else suggest someone that might
be
> able to help. I think that there are some special techniques and perhaps
> thread that is needed to ensure sufficient strength once completed. Anyone
> have any ideas?
>
> Marty in Brentwood, TN RV-6A (but started before I knew about Rockets)
> Do not Archive
>
>
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Boyd C. Braem" <bcbraem@comcast.net>
Norman--
Can you elaborate on "dried out"?
Boyd.
do not archive
Norman wrote:
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
<snip>
>
> About using old belts:
> The league I race in has a three year rule on seat belts. Our belts have to
> have a date tag on them. We can also fail tech inspection if our belts are
> considered dried out. Just how old are these military surplus belts you
> have?
>
> Norman Hunger
> RV6A Delta BC
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| Subject: | Fw: RV-List: open slider in flight |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
Come on you guys, somebody can add some spin on this subject. (We here at
APV lost a guy getting ready to take his private check ride last week. Doing
low, tight turns around a point. Cherokee was seen in a "spiral" and hit
inverted.) Do not Archive KABONG
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: open slider in flight
> Do not archive
> Come on already......quit stalling around, what is it ?,
> Enquiring minds want to know. 8
)
> KABONG
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Boyd C. Braem" <bcbraem@comcast.net>
> see, low airspeed and nose
> > high--hmm, that reminds me of something--it'll come to me.
>
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: JOHNTMEY@aol.com
Listers, I haven't been following RV list but an item crossed over to the
Rocket List, which I do follow.... item: "sliding canopy" and "canopy open in
flight". My project is stuck on that.
My HRocketII project is well along but I'm being slowed down by the canopy...
I have the Frederick slider kit with sloped windshield option. None of this
is installed yet but I have cardboard and foam chunks taped-on trying to
change the design to fit my goals. I want a slider for the front pit..
openable (with usual limits) in flight. I am trying to rig the canopy so
that is rolls back on a robust track system limited to about 22 inches
travel... access to the rear pit requires that the canopy then open via
secondary system, likely the RV4 tilt (not to be done in-flight!). Yep, I
know Pitts/Christen does it on the bipes, but haven't studied that too much.
Anyone in DEN area want to "consult" or lend a hand on this
engineering/fabrication drill ? Will trade time, firewood, $$ or whatever.
I need to get this hangar queen airborne !
John Meyers Golden, CO johntmey@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: CanopyCravings |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Boyd C. Braem" <bcbraem@comcast.net>
John--
A prospective RV builder asked the RV List if the stock slider canopy could be
opened in flight like on the Grumman American/Tiger, etc. The Grumman canopy
rails have a notch that the canopy locks into keeping it open (maybe about a
foot?)--there's a speed restriction of 110 KIAS (mph?).
I replied as follows:
When flight testing the Super 6 I flew with the stock slider canopy open. The
nose
really wants to come up, even at take-off speed. Let's see, low airspeed and
nose
high--hmm, that reminds me of something--it'll come to me. Because of the way
the
airplane handled and concerns about the canopy attachment hardware, I didn't do
any
sustained flight above 85 mph. Rudder control seemed appropriate for the
airspeed. The wind and noise coming in that wide cockpit on the -6 was
impressive and there
was a very strong suction draft between the canopy skirts and the aft fuselage.
I would expect that the aerodynamics of the open narrower Rocket canopy will be
different, but based on my limited experience (about 30 min total) I decided not
to further persue that particular flight regime.
Boyd.
Venice, FL
JOHNTMEY@aol.com wrote:
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: JOHNTMEY@aol.com
>
> Listers, I haven't been following RV list but an item crossed over to the
> Rocket List, which I do follow.... item: "sliding canopy" and "canopy open in
> flight". My project is stuck on that.
>
> My HRocketII project is well along but I'm being slowed down by the canopy...
> I have the Frederick slider kit with sloped windshield option. None of this
> is installed yet but I have cardboard and foam chunks taped-on trying to
> change the design to fit my goals. I want a slider for the front pit..
> openable (with usual limits) in flight. I am trying to rig the canopy so
> that is rolls back on a robust track system limited to about 22 inches
> travel... access to the rear pit requires that the canopy then open via
> secondary system, likely the RV4 tilt (not to be done in-flight!). Yep, I
> know Pitts/Christen does it on the bipes, but haven't studied that too much.
>
> Anyone in DEN area want to "consult" or lend a hand on this
> engineering/fabrication drill ? Will trade time, firewood, $$ or whatever.
> I need to get this hangar queen airborne !
>
> John Meyers Golden, CO johntmey@aol.com
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
> Can you elaborate on "dried out"?
Sorry but I can't. I'll have to ask. I assume it means when they get stiff.
Norman
> >
> > About using old belts:
> > The league I race in has a three year rule on seat belts. Our belts have
to
> > have a date tag on them. We can also fail tech inspection if our belts
are
> > considered dried out. Just how old are these military surplus belts you
> > have?
> >
> > Norman Hunger
> > RV6A Delta BC
>
>
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