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Tue 05/13/03


Total Messages Posted: 2



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     1. 07:05 AM - guys that are building are busy and not on line (Frazier, Vincent A)
     2. 10:05 PM - plumbing of tip tanks (Phil Ayrton)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:05:58 AM PST US
    Subject: guys that are building are busy and not on line
    From: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu> SNIP Maybe the guys that are building are busy and not on line. SNIP Not so! I was up until 12:30 last night slobbering West epoxy all over my tail fairing. Monday night I prepped the tail for the horrible mess to come by covering all of the exposed aluminum. The guy building an RV-7 in my shop will notice that somebody stole a bunch of that protective plastic crap off of his wing panel. I used it to cover my tail. Worked great, epoxy peels off of it fairly easily, and the price was right. I did use a little black tape around the edges to seal the plastic down. Yesterday I brought home about 15# of modeling clay that I "borrowed" from the art department (they're on summer break). I smooshed it all over the tail intersection until it looked about right. Actually you don't really look at it so much as you feel for lumps. Heck any good body shop guy could do this in no time. For that matter, Ray Charles could too. So, after I spent an hour molding the sticky stuff, it was time to start with the really yucky stuff. No, I'll never win any awards for fiberglass work. The local Glassygofast builder tells me that the ratio (by weight) of glass to resin should be 2:1. My ratio is more like 1:1 or 1:2. Doh! I can't believe that you can actually build an entire airplane out of that stuff. After a quick double checking to make sure that everything was ready, the tail is covered, and the glass is cut, it was time to glove up... double glove actually. A few thousand pumps of the West cans later and VOILA (drum roll).... well, I'll be dipped... a suitable looking fairing had appeared where before there was only lumps of clay! Now to trim it with the band saw (with the old blade)and proceed to the really fun part... hours and hours of sanding and filling. ACK! Now, who says nobody on this list builds? Sorry to those who were hoping for a discussion about my tee-shirt, religion, primer, or political views. LOL!!! Vince Frazier 1946 Stinson, NC97535, FOR SALE (the world's nicest Stinson... really!) F-1H Rocket, "Shangrila", N540VF reserved, <http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html>


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    Time: 10:05:23 PM PST US
    From: "Phil Ayrton" <ayrton@ihug.com.au>
    Subject: plumbing of tip tanks
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Phil Ayrton" <ayrton@ihug.com.au> I am building a 180hp RV-4 here in Australia and am currently converting the standard fibreglass tips to tip tanks. I am using John Johanson's plans but there's not much information about plumbing methods and I think I need help. I have a very simple approach to managing this fuel. I propose gravity feed from tips to mains, actuated by a float shutoff valve in the outer baffle of the main tanks. Mains and tips vented separately. Once the level in the mains goes down and the float drops, the transfer commences. Conversely the float valve ensures that no syphon into tip tanks occurs when parked on a slope and when fuel is required in mains only. I propose another inspection cover adjacent to the main tank to allow a spanner for connection, and at the tip tank the connection is made just prior to final location. The connection to the tip is a 90deg fitting with a finger strainer inside lying along the bottom of the tank adjacent to the main spar area, which should be the lowest point when in the flying attitude. Now my question.......in the outer wing bay I am proposing a 30deg bend forward in the alum fuel line, then after 2-3" a 30 deg bend back again, to provide a "kink" to allow for expansion and contraction, and to ensure that not too much strain is placed on either the fuel line or tank baffles. Does this sound sensible or is there a better way. I dont want to reinvent the wheel if I can help it.....thanks for any assistance. Phil Ayrton Wollongong, Australia




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