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1. 12:31 AM - Additional parts to build HR2? (Blair)
2. 05:42 AM - Re: Additional parts to build HR2? (Randy Pflanzer)
3. 07:05 AM - airspeed? (Frazier, Vincent A)
4. 07:44 AM - Re: airspeed? (Boyd C. Braem)
5. 12:02 PM - RocketStuff (JOHNTMEY@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Additional parts to build HR2? |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Blair" <blairclan@bigpond.com>
I'm currently most of the way through an F1 tail kit and have ordered RV4
fuse & wing kit and HR2 kit.
Was wondering if anyone has a list of other parts, that aren't in above
kits, that I should start collecting and any advice on specific items. (EG
wheels, brakes, fairings, throttles, canopy material etc)
Cheers
Tony Blair
Australia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Paine" <hpaine@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Rocket-List: Three point landings
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: Harry Paine <hpaine@earthlink.net>
>
> At 03:57 PM 5/15/03 -0400, you wrote:
> >--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Tom Martin" <fairlea@execulink.com>
> >
> >
> > Three point landings
> > Good topic, with 500 hours I still do not have the absolute
> > answers to that
> >question. What I can tell you is that this plane has negligible ground
> >effect and the sink rate at the lower, almost stall speeds are, how do I
> >phrase this, impressive?
>
> As in why the heck did I land from 10 feet high?? Why I will never attempt
> a 3 wheeler at hi density altitudes (6,000) & up
>
> I think one of the big problem nobody addressed is how much the elevator
is
> blanked out if you attempt a three wheeler without power!!!!!!! yikes!
good
> thing that titanium absorbs a lot of shock!!
>
> Tom ya know its interesting I had a t-18 for 12 years and could 80 - 90%
of
> the time do a real good 3 pointer but then I flew a friends with a
> different gear set up and engine and couldn't do it at all!!
>
>
> >Yes it is important that you have the stick all
> >the way back at the right time but the key is the flare, too early and
you
> >will bounce, too late on the flare and, well, you will bounce even more.
I
> >make better three point landings with a passenger. I am not ashamed of
> >wheel landings, I like them in this airplane and they can be very pretty
and
> >a LOT easier on the gear than a blotched three point. But sometimes you
need
> >to land in a shorter distance than a wheel landing permits so three
pointers
> >are a necessary. If for no other reason, then three pointers will bring a
> >rocket guy down to earth, (pun intended), and humble him a little.
> > I am going to continue practising for as long as I own one of
> > these things.
> >
> >Tom Martin
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Additional parts to build HR2? |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: Randy Pflanzer <F1Rocket@comcast.net>
You might want to spend a lot of time visiting my friend, Vince
Frazier's web site. He is also building a HR2 and using F1 Rocket
parts to help. Vince is extremely helpful and I'm sure he wouldn't
mind answering a question or two along the way. His site is:
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html
Randy
F1 Rocket
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/f1rocket/
----- Original Message -----
From: Blair <blairclan@bigpond.com>
Subject: Rocket-List: Additional parts to build HR2?
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Blair" <blairclan@bigpond.com>
>
>
> I'm currently most of the way through an F1 tail kit and have
> ordered RV4
> fuse & wing kit and HR2 kit.
>
> Was wondering if anyone has a list of other parts, that aren't in
> abovekits, that I should start collecting and any advice on
> specific items. (EG
> wheels, brakes, fairings, throttles, canopy material etc)
>
>
> Cheers
> Tony Blair
> Australia
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harry Paine" <hpaine@earthlink.net>
> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Rocket-List: Three point landings
>
>
> > --> Rocket-List message posted by: Harry Paine
> <hpaine@earthlink.net>>
> > At 03:57 PM 5/15/03 -0400, you wrote:
> > >--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Tom Martin"
> <fairlea@execulink.com>> >
> > >
> > > Three point landings
> > > Good topic, with 500 hours I still do not have the
> absolute> > answers to that
> > >question. What I can tell you is that this plane has negligible
> ground> >effect and the sink rate at the lower, almost stall
> speeds are, how do I
> > >phrase this, impressive?
> >
> > As in why the heck did I land from 10 feet high?? Why I will
> never attempt
> > a 3 wheeler at hi density altitudes (6,000) & up
> >
> > I think one of the big problem nobody addressed is how much the
> elevatoris
> > blanked out if you attempt a three wheeler without power!!!!!!!
> yikes!good
> > thing that titanium absorbs a lot of shock!!
> >
> > Tom ya know its interesting I had a t-18 for 12 years and could
> 80 - 90%
> of
> > the time do a real good 3 pointer but then I flew a friends with a
> > different gear set up and engine and couldn't do it at all!!
> >
> >
> > >Yes it is important that you have the stick all
> > >the way back at the right time but the key is the flare, too
> early and
> you
> > >will bounce, too late on the flare and, well, you will bounce
> even more.
> I
> > >make better three point landings with a passenger. I am not
> ashamed of
> > >wheel landings, I like them in this airplane and they can be
> very pretty
> and
> > >a LOT easier on the gear than a blotched three point. But
> sometimes you
> need
> > >to land in a shorter distance than a wheel landing permits so three
> pointers
> > >are a necessary. If for no other reason, then three pointers
> will bring a
> > >rocket guy down to earth, (pun intended), and humble him a little.
> > > I am going to continue practising for as long as I own
> one of
> > > these things.
> > >
> > >Tom Martin
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
SNIP Angle of attack indicator? SNIP
Glad to finally hear someone mention an angle of attack indicator for landing use.
I have one and plan to use it. It's also my mechanical backup in case the
electrons leak out of the Dynon. That's the plan anyway.
I also plan to leave all of the vacuum system and associated junk on the ground.
That alone will save 10# and the cost of the Dynon. And the Dynon won't care
if I spin the 540 backwards while installing my spinner.
Vince
do not archive
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Boyd C. Braem" <bcbraem@comcast.net>
Yeah, Vince--that sucking AOA thing ruined Naval aviation. If you could
add-up how much fuel you had and + if there was anything still hanging
on your hardpoints you would dial in your approach speed and then just
fly your little AOA needle right down to the deck--and now, with the
auto-pilot doing it, it's sort of embarrassing.
Boyd.
Frazier, Vincent A wrote:
>--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
>
>
>SNIP Angle of attack indicator? SNIP
>
>
>Glad to finally hear someone mention an angle of attack indicator for landing
use. I have one and plan to use it. It's also my mechanical backup in case the
electrons leak out of the Dynon. That's the plan anyway.
>
>I also plan to leave all of the vacuum system and associated junk on the ground.
That alone will save 10# and the cost of the Dynon. And the Dynon won't care
if I spin the 540 backwards while installing my spinner.
>
>Vince
>do not archive
>
>
>
>
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: JOHNTMEY@aol.com
Tony,
Man, you need a lot of "stuff".
I am building HRocket... and have been humbled by the enormous number of
"bits" needed to make this thing fly. It is not a good "kit" if you are into
the "kit" concept, that is, everything listed and pre-packaged for you.
Nada !!
Earlier on, I resolved to keep track of all the parts + costs by using a
spreadsheet, but have lapsed into a semi-comatose records-keeper just tossing
all the lists, purchase orders, and invoices into a legal box. Someday when
I am old, I may go through it see how much this thing is costing.
Are you connected to the RVer's "down-under" ? You need the same "bits"
that any RV needs, plus some more. I bought the canopy kit from Mark
Frederick of F1,
tip tanks from Johanson, etc, ad-nauseum.
I don't know how it works for delivery 'down-under', but hereabouts, the UPS
delivery-man gets quite intimate with the project and its progress.
Regards, John Meyers Golden, CO
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