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     1. 08:34 AM - fly-in pics (Frazier, Vincent A)
     2. 10:14 AM - Apple Valley, Calif Air Fair (APV) (Tom Gummo)
     3. 11:56 AM - Fw: RV-List: Apple Valley, Calif Air Fair (APV) (John Starn)
     4. 03:57 PM - Re: fly-in pics (Hr2pilot@aol.com)
     5. 05:11 PM - Re: Harmon Rocket Special on TV (mwpotter)
 
 
 
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      --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
      
      Anybody get any good pics from the fly-in to share with us Yankees trapped out
      east?
      
      Vince Frazier
      1946 Stinson, NC97535, FOR SALE (the world's nicest Stinson... really!)
      F-1H Rocket, "Shangrila", N540VF reserved, 
      <http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html>
      
      
      
      
      
      
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         "RV List" <rv-list@matronics.com>,
         "Rocket List" <rocket-list@matronics.com>
| Subject:  | Apple Valley, Calif Air Fair (APV) | 
      
      --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
      
      Everybody,
      
      APV is having a Air Fair Sunday June 8th, 10:00 AM to 4:00 PM.
      $5 a person or $10 a car load, free for those who fly in.
      
      Static displays include:
      C-46 China Doll
      F8F Bearcat
      SNJ (T-6)
      B-25
      An-2 Colt (Big Russian Biplane)
      Casa ____ (Spanish Jet Trainer, sorry but I can't begin to spell the name)
      T-34
      T-28 and A-1 Skyraider (are on the fence)
      
      Aerial displays:
      Acro Demo by "Nash" , I think he is number one ranked in the US.
      5 Juga Jets - Formation display, non-acro
      3 Pitts Biplanes - Formation display, non-acro
      Unscheduled but possible THE FAMOUS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA VAN's RV AIR FORCE.
      (The FAA will be here so be prepared to show your paperwork as the airspace
      has been waivered for ONE ten minute Acro display.)  Two FAA inspectors will
      be on hand to inspect the ONE acro pilot.
      Marine Helicopters who just happen to be passing by on the way home from a
      exercise.
      
      Rides in the Bushmaster (Ford Trimotor clone) are available.
      
      The air show part will be very small but there should be lots of food.  So,
      if you are looking for someplace to go Sunday for the hundred dollar
      hamburger, try APV.  I will be the "AirBoss" on the Unicom freq 122.8.  So,
      give me a call as you get into the local area for current activities.  If we
      have an aerial event in progress, I might have to ask you to hold outside
      the airspace for a couple of minutes.  There is only one event scheduled
      each half hour so there should be plenty of time for arrivals and
      departures.  Also, for departing, I will be asking you to help schedule your
      leaving around the "show".
      
      The weather the last couple of days has been very warm to HOT.  So bring a
      hat and sunscreen, etc,
      
      Hope to see you there.  Come and have a good time.
      
      Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
      AirBoss for Apple Valley Air Fair
      and
      All Around Nice Guy
      
      
      Please
      do not archive
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Fw: RV-List: Apple Valley, Calif Air Fair (APV) | 
      
      --> Rocket-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
      
      Ole Gummibear forgot the helo display at the south ramp, the car show and
      the static R/C airplane display. There will be "People Choice" awards for
      the cars, airplanes etc. The local fire dept. will have a "SLAM" display,
      crashed cars, fire, CHP, police responce and a Mercy helo airlift. It's
      going to be a great day. NO land, parking or entry fee for fly-ins. I'm
      going to be on airplane parking duty at 122.8.  KABONG. (GBA) 8*)
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
      <rv-list@matronics.com>; "Rocket List" <rocket-list@matronics.com>
      Subject: RV-List: Apple Valley, Calif Air Fair (APV)
      
      
      > --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
      >
      > Everybody,
      >
      > APV is having a Air Fair Sunday June 8th, 10:00 AM to 4:00 PM.
      > $5 a person or $10 a car load, free for those who fly in.
      >
      > Static displays include:
      > C-46 China Doll
      > F8F Bearcat
      > SNJ (T-6)
      > B-25
      > An-2 Colt (Big Russian Biplane)
      > Casa ____ (Spanish Jet Trainer, sorry but I can't begin to spell the name)
      > T-34
      > T-28 and A-1 Skyraider (are on the fence)
      >
      > Aerial displays:
      > Acro Demo by "Nash" , I think he is number one ranked in the US.
      > 5 Juga Jets - Formation display, non-acro
      > 3 Pitts Biplanes - Formation display, non-acro
      > Unscheduled but possible THE FAMOUS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA VAN's RV AIR
      FORCE.
      > (The FAA will be here so be prepared to show your paperwork as the
      airspace
      > has been waivered for ONE ten minute Acro display.)  Two FAA inspectors
      will
      > be on hand to inspect the ONE acro pilot.
      > Marine Helicopters who just happen to be passing by on the way home from a
      > exercise.
      >
      > Rides in the Bushmaster (Ford Trimotor clone) are available.
      >
      > The air show part will be very small but there should be lots of food.
      So,
      > if you are looking for someplace to go Sunday for the hundred dollar
      > hamburger, try APV.  I will be the "AirBoss" on the Unicom freq 122.8.
      So,
      > give me a call as you get into the local area for current activities.  If
      we
      > have an aerial event in progress, I might have to ask you to hold outside
      > the airspace for a couple of minutes.  There is only one event scheduled
      > each half hour so there should be plenty of time for arrivals and
      > departures.  Also, for departing, I will be asking you to help schedule
      your
      > leaving around the "show".
      >
      > The weather the last couple of days has been very warm to HOT.  So bring a
      > hat and sunscreen, etc,
      >
      > Hope to see you there.  Come and have a good time.
      >
      > Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
      > AirBoss for Apple Valley Air Fair
      > and
      > All Around Nice Guy
      >
      >
      > Please
      > do not archive
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Rocket-List message posted by: Hr2pilot@aol.com
      
      ours are posted
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | RE: Harmon Rocket Special on TV | 
      
      --> Rocket-List message posted by: "mwpotter" <mwpotter@qwest.net>
      
      For those of us w/o Satellite TV, is there anyone on the list who is
      willing to tape the show and send me the VHS tape?  I don't want to
      impose, but would love to see that show.  
      
      Mark W. Potter
      825 NE Multnomah, Suite 935
      Portland, OR  97232
      503-872-7090
      503-230-2595
      Mwpotter@qwest.net 
      
      
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           1. 05:57 AM - Harmon Rocket special on TV Satellite Channel 232
      (George Nuse)
           2. 08:38 AM - engine preservation  (Frazier, Vincent A)
           3. 09:32 AM - Re: Harmon Rocket special on TV Satellite Channel 232
      (Morocketman@aol.com)
           4. 07:02 PM - Re: Rocket Names???  (Jim Stone)
           5. 07:26 PM - Re: Rocket Names???  (John Starn)
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 1
      _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 05:57:35 AM PST US
      From: "George Nuse" <gnuse@attbi.com>
      Subject: Rocket-List: Harmon Rocket special on TV Satellite Channel 232
      
      --> Rocket-List message posted by: "George Nuse" <gnuse@attbi.com>
      
      According to the "Fine Channel" web site, the show is on channel 232 on
      6/5 11:30am,
      6/6 9:30pm, 6/7 12:30am & 9:30am
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 2
      _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 08:38:23 AM PST US
      Subject: Rocket-List: engine preservation
      From: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
         "RV-List Digest (E-mail)" <rv-list-digest@matronics.com>
      
      --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A"
      <VFrazier@usi.edu>
      
      
      Guys,
      
      Being a lab geek for 20 years means that I know a little about drying
      things...
      like engines.  Sure you can fill the crankcase with oil if you want to.
      Kinda
      messy when it runs out of all the holes you forgot to plug though.  And
      it doesn't
      necessarily remove the moisture!!!!!
      
      Here's what I suggest... YMMV.  Put fresh oil in the engine or just
      drain all of
      it out. Take out all of the spark plugs, actually all of the engine
      openings
      should be open for best results. Get a couple giant garbage bags or make
      the
      equivalent from plastic sheeting and duct tape.  Put the engine in
      carefully so
      as not to tear the bag.  Toss in several bags of drierite (see the
      website).
      Seal the bag. Monitor the indicator every few weeks and rejunvenate the
      drierite
      as needed by baking it in a oven as shown below.  
      
      The drierite will turn from blue to pink as it absorbs water.  Water can
      only come
      from the engine or a leak in the bag.  You should reach a point where
      the
      drierite stays blue indefinietly.  When it does your engine is bone dry.
      
      http://www.drierite.com/catalog3/page16.cfm
      
      If you do this right, I GUARANTEE that your engine will stay absolutely
      dry.  Period!
      And it's really quite easy to do.
      
      Vince Frazier
      1946 Stinson, NC97535, FOR SALE (the world's nicest Stinson... really!)
      F-1H Rocket, "Shangrila", N540VF reserved, 
      <http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html>
      
      ************************************************************************
      ***************
      
      
      A Sidebar on Drierite Desiccant 
      
      The desiccant I've been using is from Drierite, PO Box 460, Xenia, OH
      45385, phone: 513-376-2927.  Their web site with information on all
      their desiccants is at www.drierite.com.  
      
      I'm using "Indicating Drierite" which is Stock # 23005 and size 8 mesh.
      The composition
      is 97% calcium sulfate (CASO4) and 3% cobalt chloride (CoCl2).  The
      cobalt chloride is the indicator which is blue when it's dry and
      absorbent and
      pink when it's lost its water absorbing ability.
      
      The spent Drierite desiccant can be regenerated by spreading it in 1/4-
      1/2" layers
      in several glass baking dishes and baking in a kitchen convection oven
      for
      2-4 hours. Occasionally open the oven door to release moisture vapor and
      stir
      the desiccant in the pans.  The desiccant should turn blue as the water
      is released.
      
      The instructions from Drierite on their web site are slightly
      different... "the
      granules may be spread in layers one granule deep and heated for 1 hour
      at 210
      C or 425 F. The regenerated material should be placed in the the
      original glass
      or metal container and sealed while hot."
      
      Spreading the Drierite "one granule deep" isn't very practical.  My way
      around
      this was to layer it thicker, mix occasionally with a wooden spoon, and
      cook it
      longer.  It seems to work.
      
      The Drierite may turn blue though before it is fully regenerated.  Make
      sure you
      cook it long enough!
      
      Let the pans and Drierite cool enough so the now active desiccant can be
      safely
      "poured" from the pans into a glass container.  Apparently the glass
      container
      the Drierite comes in is made of borosilicate ("Pyrex") because I
      haven't had
      one break from the heat yet.  Try not to make a mess!  You'll need a
      large funnel
      with a large hole.  Making a funnel out of letter size paper will do in
      a pinch.
      
      After a couple of times through this process, the colors becomes more
      pale and
      the ability to distinguish between light blue and pale pink becomes more
      difficult.
      It's always a good idea to label desiccant as "good" and "bad" or "wet"
      and "dry" so that when you pick up a bottle, you don't have to guess
      about its
      state of hydration
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 3
      _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 09:32:46 AM PST US
      From: Morocketman@aol.com
      Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Harmon Rocket special on TV Satellite Channel
      232
      
      --> Rocket-List message posted by: Morocketman@aol.com
      
      Thanks for the heads up on the Harmon Rocket Special on Fine TV Channel
      232 
      on my satellite.  John and Ted Rutherford were interviewed and it was a 
      terrific piece.  They did a great job of describing the design without 
      sensationalizing too much.  Great job guys,  Les Featherston  "Fly in
      July"  Yes!
      this year. 
       HRII,  N206KT, Mt Vernon, MO
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 4
      _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 07:02:13 PM PST US
      From: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
      Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Rocket Names???
      
      --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
      
      Hey Les,  How about "Its a Rocket thing, you wouldn't understand?"  Sort
      of
      borrowed that one from the Jeep folks.  I don't get it when talking
      about
      Jeeps, I do when talking about Rockets.  Good luck,
      Jim
      Louisville
      Do not archive
      >
      >
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 5
      _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 07:26:20 PM PST US
      From: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
      Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Rocket Names???
      
      --> Rocket-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
      
      Yep, we have two Jeep's and if have to ask you won't understand. It's a
      Jeep
      thing.  KABONG (GBA) 8*) Do Not Archive
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
      Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Rocket Names???
      
      
      > --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
      >
      > Hey Les,  How about "Its a Rocket thing, you wouldn't understand?"
      Sort
      of
      > borrowed that one from the Jeep folks.
      
      
      
      
      
      
 
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