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1. 09:55 AM - Alternator, starter and oil cooler (Jim Stone)
2. 11:27 AM - Re: Alternator, starter and oil cooler (Bob Japundza)
3. 01:04 PM - Veteran's Day - NON RV - Delete Now (Tom Gummo)
4. 01:42 PM - new rocket pics to view (Frazier, Vincent A)
5. 02:13 PM - Re: Alternator, starter and oil cooler (Bill and Janet Asbell)
6. 02:13 PM - Re: Veteran's Day - NON RV - Delete Now (Scot Stambaugh)
7. 03:13 PM - Re: Alternator, starter and oil cooler (Jim Stone)
8. 03:47 PM - Re: Alternator (Fred Weaver)
9. 05:49 PM - Re: Alternator (Archie)
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| Subject: | Alternator, starter and oil cooler |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
Men of Rockets,
I am about to order my alternator, starter and oil cooler. My research
has led me to the following choices.
Alternator: B+C specialty has my first choice in the L-60 but Pricey
$595., ($409 for the L-40) Plus $228. for the voltage reg.
Air-Tec appears to be a good choice and value (350 including
regulator), although rumors of questionable business practices by the
Owner.
Vans A/C has what appear to be a great value, but I have heard it
is a rebuilt unit and folks have some problems with them.
Starter: B+C offers a great product but two hundred $ more than
its' competition.
Sky Tec at 7.5 # s and $360. seems like the best choice
Air-tec starter is $225.
Oil Cooler: Niagra has a great reputation so that is currently my
choice. Don't yet know which model.
Please feel free to comment good or bad on the above brands or add your
own favorites. Also indicate best source to buy if you have one.
Thanks,
Jim Stone
Louisville KY
502 254-3214
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| Subject: | Re: Alternator, starter and oil cooler |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: Bob Japundza <bjapundza@yahoo.com>
Jim, the bracket that comes with the Niagara alt doesn't work with a 540, at least
the part that holds tension. I ended up making my own bracket there. The
other part works fine that bolts underneath the case. The alternator they sell
is the same as what goes on a 87 Suzuki Samurai. You can buy one of these
rebuilt at an auto parts place for about $125 + core, or you can get a brand new
one from Niagra for $100 more (outright). That alternator is internally regulated
so no need for an external one. I have been flying with this setup on
my RV-6 for the last 350 hours, got a replacement upper bracket for free from
them because of a bad weld (it cracked after 150 or so hours in service). Other
than that I've been a happy camper. I went through two Van's alternators
before I had enough. Mark Frederick sells Positech coolers which work well as
long as you have the latest version.
Regards, Bob
Indy
Jim Stone <jrstone@insightbb.com> wrote:
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Stone"
Men of Rockets,
I am about to order my alternator, starter and oil cooler. My research
has led me to the following choices.
Alternator: B+C specialty has my first choice in the L-60 but Pricey
$595., ($409 for the L-40) Plus $228. for the voltage reg.
Air-Tec appears to be a good choice and value (350 including
regulator), although rumors of questionable business practices by the
Owner.
Vans A/C has what appear to be a great value, but I have heard it
is a rebuilt unit and folks have some problems with them.
Starter: B+C offers a great product but two hundred $ more than
its' competition.
Sky Tec at 7.5 # s and $360. seems like the best choice
Air-tec starter is $225.
Oil Cooler: Niagra has a great reputation so that is currently my
choice. Don't yet know which model.
Please feel free to comment good or bad on the above brands or add your
own favorites. Also indicate best source to buy if you have one.
Thanks,
Jim Stone
Louisville KY
502 254-3214
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"Rocket List" <rocket-list@matronics.com>,
"SoCal RV List" <socal-rvlist@yahoogroups.com>
| Subject: | Veteran's Day - NON RV - Delete Now |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
It was:
the 11th Month of
the 11th Day at
the 11th Hour
that World War I ended.
To my Dad, who at 17, was riding in the back of a Avenger off the Franklin
Air Craft Carrier in the Pacific in World War II:
To my Father-in-law, who was in the Army in World War II and fought his way
from North Africa to Italy (and to this day, will not talk about it):
And to all those who served, thank you. Have a great Veteran's Day.
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II, 150 hours
Wild Weasel #1753
F-4G Instructor Pilot
Major, USAF, Retired
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
do not archive
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| Subject: | new rocket pics to view |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
Matt Cognata sent me a bunch of Rocket pics that he took at Oshkosh 2003 and at
Tom Martin's fly-in. Cancel all of your appointments, these will keep you busy
for awhile. Enjoy.
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/Airshow%20pics.htm
Vince Frazier
3965 Caborn Road
Mount Vernon, IN 47620
812-464-1839 work
812-985-7309 home
1946 Stinson, NC97535, FOR SALE
F-1H Rocket, N540VF, Crazy Horse
<http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html>
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| Subject: | Re: Alternator, starter and oil cooler |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Bill and Janet Asbell" <cottonwood@charter.net>
Ya might wanna look at the 1987 toyota camry 80 amp or so.Easy to hang with
a Vans generic alt hanger and Bob gross had a GOOD drwg on the wires etc so
it works good and it`s lite.
Bill #32 helper 618 943 4782
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
Subject: Rocket-List: Alternator, starter and oil cooler
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
>
> Men of Rockets,
>
>
> I am about to order my alternator, starter and oil cooler. My research
> has led me to the following choices.
>
>
> Alternator: B+C specialty has my first choice in the L-60 but Pricey
> $595., ($409 for the L-40) Plus $228. for the voltage reg.
>
> Air-Tec appears to be a good choice and value (350 including
> regulator), although rumors of questionable business practices by the
> Owner.
>
> Vans A/C has what appear to be a great value, but I have heard it
> is a rebuilt unit and folks have some problems with them.
>
>
> Starter: B+C offers a great product but two hundred $ more than
> its' competition.
>
> Sky Tec at 7.5 # s and $360. seems like the best choice
>
> Air-tec starter is $225.
>
>
> Oil Cooler: Niagra has a great reputation so that is currently my
> choice. Don't yet know which model.
>
>
> Please feel free to comment good or bad on the above brands or add your
> own favorites. Also indicate best source to buy if you have one.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Stone
>
> Louisville KY
>
> 502 254-3214
>
>
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"Rocket List" <rocket-list@matronics.com>,
"SoCal RV List" <socal-rvlist@yahoogroups.com>
| Subject: | Re: Veteran's Day - NON RV - Delete Now |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: Scot Stambaugh <sstambaugh@qualcomm.com>
To our men in uniform and to those who have retired the theirs -- Thank you.
At 01:05 PM 11/11/2003 -0800, Tom Gummo wrote:
>--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
>
>It was:
>the 11th Month of
>the 11th Day at
>the 11th Hour
>that World War I ended.
>
>To my Dad, who at 17, was riding in the back of a Avenger off the Franklin
>Air Craft Carrier in the Pacific in World War II:
>
>To my Father-in-law, who was in the Army in World War II and fought his way
>from North Africa to Italy (and to this day, will not talk about it):
>
>And to all those who served, thank you. Have a great Veteran's Day.
>
>Tom Gummo
>Apple Valley, CA
>Harmon Rocket-II, 150 hours
>
>Wild Weasel #1753
>F-4G Instructor Pilot
>Major, USAF, Retired
>
>http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
>
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Alternator, starter and oil cooler |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
Bob,
Thanks for your recommendations. Is there any advantage to an internal
regulated alternator? Can you still adjust the voltage?
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Japundza
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Alternator, starter and oil cooler
--> Rocket-List message posted by: Bob Japundza <bjapundza@yahoo.com>
Jim, the bracket that comes with the Niagara alt doesn't work with a
540, at least the part that holds tension. I ended up making my own
bracket there. The other part works fine that bolts underneath the
case. The alternator they sell is the same as what goes on a 87 Suzuki
Samurai. You can buy one of these rebuilt at an auto parts place for
about $125 + core, or you can get a brand new one from Niagra for $100
more (outright). That alternator is internally regulated so no need for
an external one. I have been flying with this setup on my RV-6 for the
last 350 hours, got a replacement upper bracket for free from them
because of a bad weld (it cracked after 150 or so hours in service).
Other than that I've been a happy camper. I went through two Van's
alternators before I had enough. Mark Frederick sells Positech coolers
which work well as long as you have the latest version.
Regards, Bob
Indy
Jim Stone <jrstone@insightbb.com> wrote:
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Stone"
Men of Rockets,
I am about to order my alternator, starter and oil cooler. My research
has led me to the following choices.
Alternator: B+C specialty has my first choice in the L-60 but Pricey
$595., ($409 for the L-40) Plus $228. for the voltage reg.
Air-Tec appears to be a good choice and value (350 including
regulator), although rumors of questionable business practices by the
Owner.
Vans A/C has what appear to be a great value, but I have heard it
is a rebuilt unit and folks have some problems with them.
Starter: B+C offers a great product but two hundred $ more than
its' competition.
Sky Tec at 7.5 # s and $360. seems like the best choice
Air-tec starter is $225.
Oil Cooler: Niagra has a great reputation so that is currently my
choice. Don't yet know which model.
Please feel free to comment good or bad on the above brands or add your
own favorites. Also indicate best source to buy if you have one.
Thanks,
Jim Stone
Louisville KY
502 254-3214
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: Fred Weaver <mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Doesn't require any adjustment..... It's hands off and painless..
Fred
On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 03:12 PM, Jim Stone wrote:
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
>
> Bob,
> Thanks for your recommendations. Is there any advantage to an internal
> regulated alternator? Can you still adjust the voltage?
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob
> Japundza
> To: rocket-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Alternator, starter and oil cooler
>
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: Bob Japundza <bjapundza@yahoo.com>
>
> Jim, the bracket that comes with the Niagara alt doesn't work with a
> 540, at least the part that holds tension. I ended up making my own
> bracket there. The other part works fine that bolts underneath the
> case. The alternator they sell is the same as what goes on a 87 Suzuki
> Samurai. You can buy one of these rebuilt at an auto parts place for
> about $125 + core, or you can get a brand new one from Niagra for $100
> more (outright). That alternator is internally regulated so no need
> for
> an external one. I have been flying with this setup on my RV-6 for the
> last 350 hours, got a replacement upper bracket for free from them
> because of a bad weld (it cracked after 150 or so hours in service).
> Other than that I've been a happy camper. I went through two Van's
> alternators before I had enough. Mark Frederick sells Positech coolers
> which work well as long as you have the latest version.
>
> Regards, Bob
> Indy
>
> Jim Stone <jrstone@insightbb.com> wrote:
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Stone"
>
> Men of Rockets,
>
>
> I am about to order my alternator, starter and oil cooler. My research
> has led me to the following choices.
>
>
> Alternator: B+C specialty has my first choice in the L-60 but Pricey
> $595., ($409 for the L-40) Plus $228. for the voltage reg.
>
> Air-Tec appears to be a good choice and value (350 including
> regulator), although rumors of questionable business practices by the
> Owner.
>
> Vans A/C has what appear to be a great value, but I have heard it
> is a rebuilt unit and folks have some problems with them.
>
>
> Starter: B+C offers a great product but two hundred $ more than
> its' competition.
>
> Sky Tec at 7.5 # s and $360. seems like the best choice
>
> Air-tec starter is $225.
>
>
> Oil Cooler: Niagra has a great reputation so that is currently my
> choice. Don't yet know which model.
>
>
> Please feel free to comment good or bad on the above brands or add your
> own favorites. Also indicate best source to buy if you have one.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Stone
>
> Louisville KY
>
> 502 254-3214
>
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Archie" <archie97@earthlink.net>
These small alternators are available from many speed shops, and
can be purchased up to 90 amps. Last one I bought was a 40a unit
and cost $158. outright, no core.
Archie's Racing Service
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