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1. 06:28 AM - Re: 2 blade (Jim Stone)
2. 07:18 AM - Re: 2 blade (Boyd Braem)
3. 09:05 AM - Re: Re: Spins/The Raven (Boyd Braem)
4. 10:38 AM - Re: Re: Spins/The Raven (C. Rabaut)
5. 10:44 AM - Re: Re: Spins/The Raven (C. Rabaut)
6. 12:04 PM - Re: 2 blade (Jim Stone)
7. 01:10 PM - Re: dead stick F-4 (Morocketman@aol.com)
8. 01:47 PM - Re: 2 blade (Boyd Braem)
9. 02:17 PM - Need Vacuum Gyro Horizon (Morocketman@aol.com)
10. 09:29 PM - Re: Re: Spins/The Raven (Boyd Braem)
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
Which prop are you running Boyd? Satisfied with it?
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Boyd Braem
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: 2 blade
--> Rocket-List message posted by: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
I apologize, but I get 2800 rpm not 2350. GPS ground track speed is
usually between 180 and 220 kts (if I'm trying to conserve fuel at
11,500/10,500) ). I've had it up to 293 mph (+10% for Vd max--in a
shallow dive). Usuall cruise setting up here are 19 MAP and 2100 rpm
(I have a ram air inlet to the Bendix injection box)--that's about 55%
power (170 hp)
Have a nice Christmas.
Boyd.
RV-Super 6
Venice, FL
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
Jim--
Hartzell HC-M2YR-1BF. Blades are F8475D-4 (80"). After having it
dynamically balanced, it purrs like a kitten. Unfortunately, it has a
4" prop extension and Hartzell recommends not to exceed 4 Gs or do
"frequent gyroscopic maneuvers".
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Spins/The Raven |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
Chuck--
I'm sorry, I didn't read your post carefully. But, the "tow
truck"--actually, that's how I got my first training jumps in the
Navy--it was so incredibly stupid--but we had to run behind a pick-up
truck out in the boonies untill the 'chute caught enough wind to
inflate and start going up. Then we pulled the D-ring when we thought
we were at 500". The guy in front of me (alphabetically) landed hard
and broke his ankle--so, all these people were rushing over to him as I
was coming down--what a joyous experience.
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Spins/The Raven |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
No... I'm such a small dude, I usually wear my chute just soos' I can see
over the instrument panel.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Weaver <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: RE: Spins/The Raven
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>
> Aw, Come on Chuck.... Skip the big bucks deposit and just go out there
> blastin' around with some model airplane judges watching you. They will
tell
> you what you did wrong... And all you have to do is avoid screwing the
> pooch.. Oh, then you have to keep from going splat. That Von guy sure
has
> a way with words eh? Be sure to leave the chute in a hangar
somewhere.....
> Good to know you were a hang glider pilot too....
> Weav
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: RE: Spins/The Raven
>
>
> > --> Rocket-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> >
> > Boyd,
> >
> > I know, I know, I know! I (and several other hangglider pilots
at
> > the time) got a ride in his raven (before the turbine). This was a
bunch
> of
> > years back at Wayne's dirt strip. I was on tow (about 500' up/off the
> tow
> > truck) with a pax and here comes Wayne... He was less than 100' off my
> > right wing durin' a F~CKING LOOP. This was a tandem Instructor Clinic
> and
> > my pax was shitting his pants. I calmed the pax down by explaining
that
> > "The Raven" was obviously very skilled and knowledgeable; and that this
> was
> > evidenced by the pilot's choice to be slightly down wind of our position
> so
> > his wake/rotors/wash/etc... would not get us. That day I watched Wayne
> do
> > inside loops, outside loops, inside knife edges, outside knife edges,
and
> > tons of other stuff. I know you're gonna say "Bull Shit", but the next
> day
> > (it was a multi-day course) I watched a cute lady land in an Eagle II or
> > something similar. And Wayne took her up for about an hour. I'm sure
I
> > could probably find the date(s) from my H.G. log books. But anyways, I
> > swear when I saw Patti Wagstaff on TV a few years later, I said "That
was
> > her.".
> >
> > Yes, I gonna pay the man the big $$$ and get me learned a thing or
> > three.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > do not archive
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
> > To: <rocket-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Rocket-List: RE: Spins/The Raven
> >
> >
> > > --> Rocket-List message posted by: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
> > >
> > > Chuck--
> > >
> > > Wayne Handley flew my 'plane for about 2 hours--he really had a good
> > > time--did possibly everything you could do to it without a hammer and
> > > drill, or maybe even a file. I could see him up there spinnin' an'
> > > spinnin' and even did an end-over-end (lomcevak).
> > >
> > > With his own plane, the Turbo Raven, he had this neat trick where he
> > > would take off, immediately go into a loop and then land where he had
> > > taken off from--except this one time when the prop stuck in beta on
> > > the down line and he pancaked and cracked a vertabrae or two--but,
he's
> > > back up flying, now. Good guy, he used to fly crop dusters and he can
> > > make an airplane turn like you wouldn't believe. Ask him to show you
an
> > > "expedited P-turn".
> > >
> > > Boyd.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Spins/The Raven |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Boyd,
The more things change, the more they stay the same.... My 11 year old
& his friends saw something similar on TV (actually paragliders being pulled
by a boat) and asked me if they could have my old back-up "throw" chute from
one of my H.G. harnesses.
Chuck
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----- Original Message -----
From: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: RE: Spins/The Raven
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
>
> Chuck--
>
> I'm sorry, I didn't read your post carefully. But, the "tow
> truck"--actually, that's how I got my first training jumps in the
> Navy--it was so incredibly stupid--but we had to run behind a pick-up
> truck out in the boonies untill the 'chute caught enough wind to
> inflate and start going up. Then we pulled the D-ring when we thought
> we were at 500". The guy in front of me (alphabetically) landed hard
> and broke his ankle--so, all these people were rushing over to him as I
> was coming down--what a joyous experience.
>
>
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
Thanks Boyd,
4 g's should be enough but I hat to have it as a limit. I pulled 5gs
once while flying Mark Fredrick's so 4gs will become a limit so to
speak. I wonder if the J twist has the same limit?
Jim Stone
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Boyd Braem
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: 2 blade
--> Rocket-List message posted by: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
Jim--
Hartzell HC-M2YR-1BF. Blades are F8475D-4 (80"). After having it
dynamically balanced, it purrs like a kitten. Unfortunately, it has a
4" prop extension and Hartzell recommends not to exceed 4 Gs or do
"frequent gyroscopic maneuvers".
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| Subject: | Re: dead stick F-4 |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: Morocketman@aol.com
Do Not Archive I was thrown back to 1969 when you asked about dead stick
landings in the F-4. Had my old F-100 cruising along at FL310 when my wingman
just passed me. I said, "What the h#%& does he think he is doing?" Then I
noticed that he had deployed his speed brake, and was still passing me. About
that time I said, "What the h#%& is wrong with my Slick and Shiny Super Saber?"
Then engine instruments ever-so-slowly started to unwind, and my answer came
ever-so-slowly to my fuddled brain, you have just FLAMED OUT! Fortunately, I
was very close to a friendly Air Force Base, and arrived directly overhead at
about 20,000 feet. Our Flame Out Landing Procedure was a 360 degree circle in
which the "SLED" was supposed to lose 10,000 ft. (In tests the F-100 was
found capable of descending faster than a grand piano with the lid strapped shut.)
In my quick survey of the problem, I realized that I had a practice flame out
pattern in me, to be followed by the real one. Below 15,000' the thing was
supposed to relight anyway. So I tried one at 20,000', and low and behold it
fired up. The wingman then made the comment of the day, suggesting that I
continue the flame out pattern "just in case." Long story short, the thing flamed
out and re-fired four more times accompanied by very bad noises. At 2,500'
on the base leg I announced that another BURP by this J-57, and this bird was
going on alone. I raised the ejection trigger guard on the seat, and continued
to a 230 knot final approach (198 knots would have been normal). Landing was
normal, albeit exciting, a little aero-braking and I got a good chute at
178knots, then crossed the barrier with 1,500' remaining at about 80 knots, and
stopped just before the end of the runway. The engine ran for about 1 more
minute, and then puked it's insides out in the de-arm area. I did not know they
had so many turbine blades in there. Cause was center main bearing failure.
One final note, which I DID KNOW all along, the Ram Air Turbine is inside the
intake duct on the Hun, and when you flare, the air stops, the R.A.T. stops,
and you stop controlling the airplane without hydraulic pressure. The Dash One
strictly prohibits engine out landings! Fortunately, mine was running when I
needed it. Thanks for listening to an "old fart fighter pilot" reminisce!
Let's not do anymore dead stick landings, Les Featherston DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
The g-limit is caused by the prop extension, not the blades. When I
was younger (what a phrase!) I could do 8 g before my vision started to
grey-out. At the moment, by body is perfectly happy with 4 and you can
do just about anything (maneuver-wise) at 4 g--non-competition, that
is. Actually, my "things to do list" has a note to call Hartzell and
ask if I can substitute the J blade for my D blade. I upgraded my prop
hub, last year in accordance with the AD.
Boyd.
I think Mark has (had?) the same prop on his Rocket--I haven't seen his
plane for a while, so I'm not sure if he's upgraded.
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On Sunday, December 7, 2003, at 03:03 PM, Jim Stone wrote:
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
>
> Thanks Boyd,
> 4 g's should be enough but I hat to have it as a limit. I pulled 5gs
> once while flying Mark Fredrick's so 4gs will become a limit so to
> speak. I wonder if the J twist has the same limit?
> Jim Stone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Boyd Braem
> To: rocket-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: 2 blade
>
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
>
> Jim--
>
> Hartzell HC-M2YR-1BF. Blades are F8475D-4 (80"). After having it
> dynamically balanced, it purrs like a kitten. Unfortunately, it has a
> 4" prop extension and Hartzell recommends not to exceed 4 Gs or do
> "frequent gyroscopic maneuvers".
Boyd C. Braem, MD
RV-Super 6
Venice, FL
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| Subject: | Need Vacuum Gyro Horizon |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: Morocketman@aol.com
Hey all you Rocketeers out there, with everyone installing Dynon D-10's does
anyone have a vacuum gyro horizon for sale. I would really like one with the
vacuum warning flag built into the instrument, but will consider any units
available. New, Used, Rebuilt, Repairable! By the way, I really like my D-10,
but going IFR (not light IFR) without both electrical and vacuum horizons scares
me. Please reply off the list! Thanks, Les Featherston 417-466-4663 DO NOT
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Spins/The Raven |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
Chuck--
And, I assume you gave it to them and we'll get to watch it on of those
"bad" video shows? Actually, since it's your son, I guess that's a
"bad" joke. He flies with you in the -4, doesn't he? (He flew with
you to FL?--near Tallahassee? (your folks?))
Boyd.
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On Sunday, December 7, 2003, at 11:46 AM, C. Rabaut wrote:
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>
> Boyd,
>
> The more things change, the more they stay the same.... My 11
> year old
> & his friends saw something similar on TV (actually paragliders being
> pulled
> by a boat) and asked me if they could have my old back-up "throw"
> chute from
> one of my H.G. harnesses.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: RE: Spins/The Raven
>
>
>> --> Rocket-List message posted by: Boyd Braem <bcbraem@comcast.net>
>>
>> Chuck--
>>
>> I'm sorry, I didn't read your post carefully. But, the "tow
>> truck"--actually, that's how I got my first training jumps in the
>> Navy--it was so incredibly stupid--but we had to run behind a pick-up
>> truck out in the boonies untill the 'chute caught enough wind to
>> inflate and start going up. Then we pulled the D-ring when we thought
>> we were at 500". The guy in front of me (alphabetically) landed hard
>> and broke his ankle--so, all these people were rushing over to him as
>> I
>> was coming down--what a joyous experience.
>>
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