---------------------------------------------------------- Rocket-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/22/04: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:30 AM - Engine models (Chris Fordham) 2. 09:43 AM - Re: Engine models (Hr2pilot@aol.com) 3. 10:17 AM - Re: Engine models (Mlfred@aol.com) 4. 08:02 PM - Team Rocket (Jdaniel343@Bresnan.net) 5. 08:58 PM - Re: Team Rocket (Steve Gandy) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:50 AM PST US From: "Chris Fordham" Subject: Rocket-List: Engine models --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Chris Fordham" Hey Guys Thanks mainly in part to Kabong and Gummo I too have a shop full of aluminum parts and a depleted bank account. Although only half way through the tail feathers I was thinking about the choice of engine models, and as far as I could tell the K model (300hp) is 43Lbs heavier than the recommended model. With the new composite props approx. 12 lbs lighter on the hub and with electronic iginition (not sure of the weight of the mags) would this not be getting close to what is needed? I'm sure John or Mark have researched this already Chris RV-4. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:43:47 AM PST US From: Hr2pilot@aol.com Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Engine models --> Rocket-List message posted by: Hr2pilot@aol.com The angle valve engine won't fit under the cowling. John ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:17:24 AM PST US From: Mlfred@aol.com Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Engine models --> Rocket-List message posted by: Mlfred@aol.com In a message dated 1/22/2004 11:31:35 AM Central Standard Time, consult@island.net writes: Although only half way through the tail feathers I was thinking about the choice of engine models, and as far as I could tell the K model (300hp) is 43Lbs heavier than the recommended model. With the new composite props approx. 12 lbs lighter on the hub and with electronic iginition (not sure of the weight of the mags) would this not be getting close to what is needed? I'm sure John or Mark have researched this already Chris RV-4. Hey Chris: You'll be happier if you watch the fwd weight very closely. The Lyc manual shows the C4D5 at 402 lbs, and the K1E5 at 470...sounds like a bad idea to me. Even the 300HP G model (small crank) is over 450 LBS...still not advisable. FYI: the C4D5 has Slick mags; the C4B5 has Bendix (+2 lbs @ 404LBS). Now, if you set up for rear seat solo, you might get away with it, esp with the G. There is an HR2 in Tucson set up this way, but still uses the straight valve engine. The front seat is much tighter than std. If you're looking for HP, you can have the C4D5 pumped to 285HP pretty easily, and 300+ isn't that much more expensive. Several shops can help with this upgrade. Keep in mind: HP is related closely to fuel flow...don't expect to be able to get more HP without more of the other. Depending on your mission profile, you might need the bigger fuel tanks too. Keep building -- a little bit each day, and you'll get there. The 'grin factor' alone is worth it! Carry on! Mark ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:37 PM PST US From: Jdaniel343@Bresnan.net Subject: Rocket-List: Team Rocket --> Rocket-List message posted by: Jdaniel343@bresnan.net I just sold my RV-6 and am ready to start a new project. Does Team Rocket have a slo-build kit, such as the way Vans does his kit? I have e-mailed Team but have not gotten a response. If they sell a slo-build, how much are the kits? My RV-6 was a slo-build so I know what is involved in building. I am also considering the Harmon Rocket. How does Van handle the skin not being pre-punched? Does this cost extra? Thanks for any help that you guys can give me. John Danielson Casper, WY ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:23 PM PST US From: "Steve Gandy" Subject: RE: Rocket-List: Team Rocket --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Steve Gandy" John I purchased a RV-4 Wing and tail kit in December of 1996 and took delivery in early 1997. It is not a Phlogiston spar, just the standard spar as Van's sell them. The wing skins are not pre-punched. I want to sell the wing kit and the tail kit together. The reason I am selling the kits, is because I lost my medical and now am forced to go for the Sport Pilot program. I am now building a Kitfox for that reason. The Wing kit has never been opened, still in the crate. The empennage kit has been started. I have the horizontal stabilizer in the jig, skins are drilled, not dimpled. The elevators, rudder and vertical fin have not been started. I am asking $4,000 plus shipping. Steve Gandy s.gandy@comcast.net Aeronca L-3C N48540 Kitfox 6 N540KF (Building) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jdaniel343@Bresnan.net Subject: Rocket-List: Team Rocket --> Rocket-List message posted by: Jdaniel343@bresnan.net I just sold my RV-6 and am ready to start a new project. Does Team Rocket have a slo-build kit, such as the way Vans does his kit? I have e-mailed Team but have not gotten a response. If they sell a slo-build, how much are the kits? My RV-6 was a slo-build so I know what is involved in building. I am also considering the Harmon Rocket. How does Van handle the skin not being pre-punched? Does this cost extra? Thanks for any help that you guys can give me. John Danielson Casper, WY == == == ==