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     1. 08:18 AM - Crossflow (Chris Fordham)
     2. 10:15 AM - MT Propeller group buy (LesDrag@aol.com)
     3. 09:22 PM - Re: Crossflow (css nico)
 
 
 
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      --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Chris Fordham" <consult@island.net>
      
      Hi Mace
                                                               Chris
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | MT Propeller group buy | 
      
      --> Rocket-List message posted by: LesDrag@aol.com
      
      Hi All,
      
      The group buy for the 3 blade MT Propeller is still in process.  I need to 
      have 16 firm orders, so I can place one order for the group.
      
      I am also accepting names from people that are interested in a future group 
      buy.
      I have one person who would be interested in a group buy in one or two years 
      from now.
      
      The following MT standard colors are available on this group buy at no 
      additional charge:
      White, Red, Gray, Black and Yellow.
      
      One of the group buy people expressed an interest in black blades with yellow 
      tips (Spinner color still undecided.).  This would look really sharp.  I 
      delivered a 3 blade propeller to a Lancair customer (white aircraft) that had a
      
      black spinner and black blades with red tips.  Really nice looking, although the
      
      red tips didn't seem to contrast enough with the black blade.
      
      Dave Howe has the MTV-9 propeller with gray blades and white tips.  This 
      looks very nice.  GRE blades are preferred if you will be flying IFR in wet 
      weather.
      
      The two propeller options for the group buy are:
      
      Standard Rocket propeller - MTV-9-B/198-52 propeller including spinner.
      Current price would be $8,500 completely assembled FBO Southern California.
      Shipping the assembled propeller to the individual customer would be extra.
      
      Aerobatic Rocket propeller - MTV-9-B-C/C198-52 propeller including spinner.
      Current price would be $9,100 (NEW PRICE) completely assembled FBO Southern 
      California.
      Shipping the assembled propeller to the individual customer would be extra.
      
      Jim Ayers
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Rocket-List message posted by: "css nico" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
      
      I think Archie was referring to powerplant technology. That's truly still in
      the dark ages; not the technology but what the FAA would allow in certified
      operations. It took European companies to put diesel engines in aircraft,
      not the US. We could have done it ages ago because we have the brains and
      the brawn but we also have a blind spot on who we put in charge of our
      lives. That's what stinks. Perhaps we will do better in future. It won't
      unless you vote and if you vote you should see to it that the honest guy
      gets the job.
      Nico
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "u2nelson" <u2nelson@prodigy.net>
      Subject: RE: Rocket-List: Crossflow
      
      
      > --> Rocket-List message posted by: "u2nelson" <u2nelson@prodigy.net>
      >
      > When was the last time you saw a Model T or A with a GPS moving map, fuel
      > injected or constructed  100%AL or using composites?  I think GA has
      > progressed more than you give it credit. GA is what it is do to a variety
      of
      > factors, but progress is being made, just look at our homebuilt, and look
      at
      > the Cirrus.  We don't sell 10,000 units of the exact same design like the
      > car industry enjoys, so that pretty much limits how much you can spend on
      > development.  Honestly, the Lycoming IO540 is a pretty sophisticated
      design,
      > especially with after market ignition and fuel injection and the basic
      > engine is dang near bullet proof.  Let us all know how the Subaru works
      > out...My hats off to you for your commitment to experimentation, never the
      > easy road to take.
      >
      > Greg Nelson
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Archie
      > To: rocket-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Crossflow
      >
      >
      > --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Archie" <archie97@earthlink.net>
      >
      >
      > > Gents,
      > >         I've checked the achieves and only find one or two mentions of
      > this
      > > so I'll throw it out.  Has anyone considered using the Crossflow 6
      > Cylinder
      > > Subaru engine on a Rocket?  As opposed to the other Subaru engine
      builders
      > > who claim a maximum of 205hp, Crossflow claims HP as high as 350 in a
      > > turbocharged 3.3 liter.  I know of the essential argument about using
      auto
      > > engines but does anyone have any specific info on Crossflow and why it
      > > may/may not work with the Rocket?
      > >
      > > Mace
      > =======================================================
      >
      > I see no argument here.
      > No question regarding the superiority of any late model auto engine.
      > The choice, application, and installation are the key factors in a
      > properly  executed alliance of the aircraft and the auto engine.
      > Jan Eggenfellner is a conservative builder/supplier of the Subaru.
      > Check with him, and you will not receive an inflated answer.
      >
      > Several years back, I was planning a Rocket powered by a three rotor
      > Wankel. (an easy 300hp). My second choice was the six cylinder
      > Subaru.   Due to other commitments these never materialized.
      > I believe, someone from Texas beat me to the Rocket Wankel.
      > Check with Mark on that one.
      >
      > I end all my seminars/dissertations with the statement:
      > "If automotive technology progressed at the same rate as
      > general aviation, we would all be driving model A's"
      > (or, possibly, Model T's)
      >
      > Archie
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
 
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