---------------------------------------------------------- Rocket-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/10/04: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:19 AM - VOR antenna (Wolfgang Meyn) 2. 06:58 AM - Photos updated (Russ Werner) 3. 07:53 AM - Re: VOR antenna (Morocketman@aol.com) 4. 07:56 AM - Re: VOR antenna (LesDrag@aol.com) 5. 08:04 AM - Re: VOR antenna (LesDrag@aol.com) 6. 08:59 AM - Notes for the archives (Russ Werner) 7. 09:09 AM - Re: Notes for the archives (LesDrag@aol.com) 8. 09:41 AM - Re: VOR antenna (Stuart Smith) 9. 10:15 AM - Re: VOR antenna (Bob Japundza) 10. 10:40 AM - Re: VOR antenna (LesDrag@aol.com) 11. 10:43 AM - Re: Photos updated (Rabaut, Chuck) 12. 04:21 PM - Has Anyone Financed a Rocket? (Cory Emberson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:33 AM PST US From: "Wolfgang Meyn" Subject: Rocket-List: VOR antenna --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Wolfgang Meyn" Hi Everyone I am in the middle of wiring my F1 and installing antennas for my radios/GPS. I am considering putting the VOR/ILS antenna on the belly of my ship, right in between the wing Roots. My Comms antennas will be right in front of it. Since I am using the cat whiskers setup which won't fit anywhere on the tail (without major alterations) this seems to be the only location. I probably cannot use the Archer antenna because the tips of the new F1 wings are too narrow (right Mark?) Does anybody have any kind of experience with this setup? Will there be interference with the other antennas? I am planning to put my GPS antenna right behind the canopy track on the spine. Any suggestions/comments? Thanks guys!! Wolfgang (F1 #77) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:43 AM PST US From: "Russ Werner" Subject: Rocket-List: Photos updated --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Russ Werner" My photo site at www.wernerworld.com/rocket was updated today. Nearing the end, I just work on whatever strikes my fancy on the given day! This is the fun part. I know, some have complained that they can't make the page load. I don't know why. Probably stray electrons in your system! Russ HRII, 11 years, but who's counting ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:10 AM PST US From: Morocketman@aol.com Subject: Re: Rocket-List: VOR antenna --> Rocket-List message posted by: Morocketman@aol.com Hi Wolfgang, I installed Bob Archer VOR antenna's in the wingtips of my Rocket (F-1 wingtips) with very good success. I also tried a tape-on comm antenna in the gear leg fairing without success. I love my GPS antenna location the very best. I put a "right angle" of about 2" aluminum mounted to the firewall and mounted the GPS antenna horizontally just ahead of the firewall and UNDER the cowling. Seems to work perfectly. Not if you have carbon fiber cowling though. There are strick rules (which I do not know) regarding how close together the comm antenna's can be to the transponder, and nav antennae. Good luck, Les Featherston ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:35 AM PST US From: LesDrag@aol.com Subject: Re: Rocket-List: VOR antenna --> Rocket-List message posted by: LesDrag@aol.com Hi Wolfing, You'll need to mount the NAV antenna two feet away from the bottom of the fuselage to get it to work very well. Even a NAV antenna mounted on top of the vertical stabilizer is still adversely affected by the horizontal stabilizer. Put a Sportcraft NAV antenna in the wingtip. There is not a better NAV antenna installation in existence. No compromise in antenna reception. (And no drag.) Contact Bob Acher direct at 310-316-8796 to order. Bob will be able to answer any questions you might have on antenna installations. He spent his career designing them for TRW. Jim Ayers Less Drag Products, Inc. In a message dated 06/10/2004 6:20:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mw104@netmdc.com writes: Hi Everyone I am in the middle of wiring my F1 and installing antennas for my radios/GPS. I am considering putting the VOR/ILS antenna on the belly of my ship, right in between the wing Roots. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:55 AM PST US From: LesDrag@aol.com Subject: Re: Rocket-List: VOR antenna --> Rocket-List message posted by: LesDrag@aol.com Hi Wolfgang, I should have mentioned that the Sportcraft (Bob Archer) NAV antenna needs 11" from the attachment to the end of the tip. BTW, Bob Archer has a COM switch that allows you to use one antenna for two COM radios. Bob Archer 310-316-8796 Jim Ayers Less Drag Products, Inc. In a message dated 06/10/2004 6:20:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mw104@netmdc.com writes: Hi Everyone I am in the middle of wiring my F1 and installing antennas for my radios/GPS. I am considering putting the VOR/ILS antenna on the belly of my ship, right in between the wing Roots. My Comms antennas will be right in front of it. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:59:01 AM PST US From: "Russ Werner" Subject: Rocket-List: Notes for the archives --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Russ Werner" Heat muff for Vetterman exhaust system is made by Rick Robbins Robbins Wings 7087 W. 94th Ave. Broomfield, CO 80021 I was able to trade the one I got from Vetterman for one with inlet and outlet where I wanted them. Ricks contact info is: 303-422-9389 303-423-7002 shop Now I can throw that scrap of paper away! ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:09:43 AM PST US From: LesDrag@aol.com Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Notes for the archives --> Rocket-List message posted by: LesDrag@aol.com Thanks Russ. I needed that. Now that I printed it out, I have a 8.5 x 11 piece of paper to throw out later. Jim Ayers Do Not Archive In a message dated 06/10/2004 8:59:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, russ@wernerworld.com writes: --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Russ Werner" Heat muff for Vetterman exhaust system is made by Rick Robbins Robbins Wings 7087 W. 94th Ave. Broomfield, CO 80021 I was able to trade the one I got from Vetterman for one with inlet and outlet where I wanted them. Ricks contact info is: 303-422-9389 303-423-7002 shop Now I can throw that scrap of paper away! ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:45 AM PST US From: "Stuart Smith" Subject: RE: Rocket-List: VOR antenna --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Stuart Smith" Wolfgang: I set up Archers's antenna in my F1 wingtip. There is enough room for the antenna, but also I bent it up (more vertically) to get an optimum radiation pattern. I also ended up making a cut-out for the antenna through the builder installed rib. Stu Harmon Rocket II within weeks of certification... -----Original Message----- From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Wolfgang Meyn Subject: Rocket-List: VOR antenna --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Wolfgang Meyn" Hi Everyone I am in the middle of wiring my F1 and installing antennas for my radios/GPS. I am considering putting the VOR/ILS antenna on the belly of my ship, right in between the wing Roots. My Comms antennas will be right in front of it. Since I am using the cat whiskers setup which won't fit anywhere on the tail (without major alterations) this seems to be the only location. I probably cannot use the Archer antenna because the tips of the new F1 wings are too narrow (right Mark?) Does anybody have any kind of experience with this setup? Will there be interference with the other antennas? I am planning to put my GPS antenna right behind the canopy track on the spine. Any suggestions/comments? Thanks guys!! Wolfgang (F1 #77) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:35 AM PST US From: Bob Japundza Subject: RE: Rocket-List: VOR antenna --> Rocket-List message posted by: Bob Japundza Wolfgang is referring to the new taper wing for the F1, not the straight wing. The new wingtip has an aluminum cap as the wingtip that fits tightly against the end rib; I don't think its possible to get any sort of grounded/capacitive antenna in the wingtip. A cat-whisker vor antenna works fine bolted up to the bottom of the fuselage in the tailcone on my hangar-mate's RV-6A, no problem with reception. Regards, Bob Japundza RV-6 flying, F1 #80 building Stuart Smith wrote: --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Stuart Smith" Wolfgang: I set up Archers's antenna in my F1 wingtip. There is enough room for the antenna, but also I bent it up (more vertically) to get an optimum radiation pattern. I also ended up making a cut-out for the antenna through the builder installed rib. Stu Harmon Rocket II within weeks of certification... -----Original Message----- From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Wolfgang Meyn Subject: Rocket-List: VOR antenna --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Wolfgang Meyn" Hi Everyone I am in the middle of wiring my F1 and installing antennas for my radios/GPS. I am considering putting the VOR/ILS antenna on the belly of my ship, right in between the wing Roots. My Comms antennas will be right in front of it. Since I am using the cat whiskers setup which won't fit anywhere on the tail (without major alterations) this seems to be the only location. I probably cannot use the Archer antenna because the tips of the new F1 wings are too narrow (right Mark?) Does anybody have any kind of experience with this setup? Will there be interference with the other antennas? I am planning to put my GPS antenna right behind the canopy track on the spine. Any suggestions/comments? Thanks guys!! Wolfgang (F1 #77) --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:40:29 AM PST US From: LesDrag@aol.com Subject: Re: Rocket-List: VOR antenna --> Rocket-List message posted by: LesDrag@aol.com I believe Stu is addressing his installation of his Sportcraft COM antenna. The NAV antenna is mounted horizontally. Jim Ayers In a message dated 06/10/2004 9:42:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ssmith@lacsd.org writes: Wolfgang: I set up Archers's antenna in my F1 wingtip. There is enough room for the antenna, but also I bent it up (more vertically) to get an optimum radiation pattern. I also ended up making a cut-out for the antenna through the builder installed rib. Stu Harmon Rocket II within weeks of certification ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:43:44 AM PST US Subject: RE: Rocket-List: Photos updated From: "Rabaut, Chuck" --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Rabaut, Chuck" Russ, You have good reason to be Proud. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Russ Werner Subject: Rocket-List: Photos updated --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Russ Werner" My photo site at www.wernerworld.com/rocket was updated today. Nearing the end, I just work on whatever strikes my fancy on the given day! This is the fun part. I know, some have complained that they can't make the page load. I don't know why. Probably stray electrons in your system! Russ HRII, 11 years, but who's counting ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:21:59 PM PST US From: "Cory Emberson" Subject: Rocket-List: Has Anyone Financed a Rocket? --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" Hello! I'm writing an article for Kitplanes magazine about financing for homebuilts. Has anyone had any experience in financing your Rocket (or other plane that you've built), and would you care to share that experience? Also, if you've had the experience of financing an already-completed homebuilt, I would love to hear from you as well. Thanks so much! If you care to contact me off-list, my email address is cory@lightspeededit.com. My "list" email address is bootless@earthlink.net. By the way, I had the pleasure of meeting Bob Gross at Sun 'n Fun, and you can see his F-1 Rocket's paint job in the July issue of Kitplanes (Aircraft Exteriors and Interiors - page 40). Best, Cory Emberson KHWD