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| Subject: | Fw: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
Sounds like things are back on.
PLEASE GET BACK WITH ME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
After I got them to change their minds, at least we can do is show up.
WHO IS GOING TO FLY TO THE PT. MUGU AIR SHOW?
Which day or days.?
GummiBear
----- Original Message -----
From: Boggs, William A LCDR
Subject: RE: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs
Mr. Gummo,
We put our heads together this morning, and out of the pile of rocks we have come
up with a proposal. While the Pt. Mugu Air Show is a "military" show, it is
also a "community event." We want to be as inclusive as possible, within limits.
Having said all that, we can dig up some extra bodies to make a hole in
the fence Sat. & Sun. morning and evening to allow you and your group to get
in and out. The arrival window would be 0645-0730, and the departure time would
be after 1730. Is this doable?
V/r,
LCDR Bill Boggs
NBVC Point Mugu
Air Operations Officer
Comm: (805) 989-7041
DSN: 351-7041
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Gummo [mailto:T.gummo@verizon.net]
Subject: Re: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs
Sir,
I understand your problem and don't see a way around it. I live in Apple Valley
and the other SoCal RVators are from all over the southern California area.
If we fly our planes in Thursday or Friday, what am we going to do for those
four days (Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday). We have no place to stay
, etc. I can't ask someone to drive two plus hours (one way) to Pt. Mugu
and pick me up and then do it again on Monday to get the plane.
Of course not at a military field, we have flown in before the gates open and
leave after the show closes or near the end. Our planes only weigh about 1000
pounds and are very easily pushed passed the prop line (crowd control line)
but we would need a gate if there is a fence.
I would like to thank you for your efforts at the last minute to try to make
this work out. I would be glad to try again next time to make this work. Hopefully,
if I can get involved early in the planning process, I would be able
to clear up our needs with your requirements. There are many other issues that
would need to be worked out to have the planes RON for the weekend.
Also, let me take a minute to thank you and all the Pt. Mugu folks for your
service to our country.
My time in the barrel has passed but I see that it is in very good hands. Hand
salute.
Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
Wild Weasel #1753
F-4G Instructor Pilot
Major USAF, Retired
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket - II
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: Boggs, William A LCDR
To: Swaney, Mark CAPT NAVAIRWARCENWPNDIV Bldg 36, Rm 2305
Cc: Tom Gummo ; Krumholz, Paul J LT ; Gould, Richard AE1 NAVTESTWINGPAC 561000E
; Graziano, Thomas A CDR
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs
Sir,
The Thurs. arrival time was to facilitate fence installation. We can adjust
that to allow for the group to fly in Friday morning. After that the airfield
will be closed for performer practice and finalizing field set up. We will have
a few tactical aircraft arriving Friday evening, but that is on the other
side of the airfield from where we will spot the RV's. Once they arrive, they
need to stay for the whole weekend.
V/r,
LCDR Bill Boggs
NBVC Point Mugu
Air Operations Officer
Comm: (805) 989-7041
DSN: 351-7041
-----Original Message-----
From: Swaney, Mark CAPT NAVAIRWARCENWPNDIV Bldg 36, Rm 2305
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 17:19
To: Boggs, William A LCDR
Cc: 'Tom Gummo'; Krumholz, Paul J LT; Gould, Richard AE1 NAVTESTWINGPAC 561000E
Subject: RE: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs
Importance: High
Bill,
This very late proposal to the RV group is completely out of line with what had
been described during our earlier discussions. There is no way they can bring
in their aircraft on Thursday and leave them for the weekend. It's not like
you're paying them or providing fuel like you are for other acts and displays.
There must be some way this can be worked out? I've worked this airshow
for many years in the past doing everything from setting up seating to coordinating
the performers and we've always had a way to get a few folks in and out
before/after the show times.
VR,
CAPT Mark Swaney, USN
Vice Commander, NAVAIR's Weapons Division
Point Mugu & China Lake, CA
Email: mark.swaney@navy.mil
805-989-7113 (Office)
805-816-3042 (Cellular)
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Gummo [mailto:T.gummo@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 17:06
To: Swaney, Mark CAPT NAVAIRWARCENWPNDIV Bldg 36, Rm 2305
Subject: Fw: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs
WOW.
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: Krumholz, Paul J LT
To: Tom Gummo
Cc: Boggs, William A LCDR
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs
Tom,
We are expecting 8 RVators for the show. I got the insurance papaers from Rick.
I think as long as everyone has their DD2400 with them we should be good.
However, there is just no way you can leave Saturday and bring in 8 different
aircraft. There is too much in the way between your parking and the rwy. Our
contractor is putting up the crowd control fence on Thursday afternoon, can
you arrive prior to this? Sorry for the hassles, let me know what you can do.
V/R,
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Gummo [mailto:T.gummo@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 15:29
To: Krumholz, Paul J LT
Cc: Swaney, Mark CAPT NAVAIRWARCENWPNDIV Bldg 36, Rm 2305
Subject: Pt Mugu Air Show and SoCAL RVs
Paul,
Just checking in with you about the air show. I understand Capt Swaney has been
working with you on our behalf.
I understand Rick Gould has take my DD 2400, DD 2401, DD 2402 forms to you.
You stated in one of your emails about making sure the insurance is in order.
Just what paperwork will we need?
Will we be able to leave Saturday evening after the show and fly in new planes
Sunday?
Can I leave my plane over night and stay both days?
I would be glad to fly to Pt Mugu or CMA and met with you.
Thanks,
Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
Wild Weasel #1753
F-4G Instructor Pilot, USAF, Major Retired
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
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