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Sun 01/30/05


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 12:59 PM - Re: [[SPAM]] Re: Vans 540 engine baffle kit (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
     2. 05:53 PM - Re: HRII intake questions (Jim Stone)
     3. 06:52 PM - Re: HRII intake questions (Tom Gummo)
     4. 08:41 PM - intakes (HPaine)
 
 
 


Message 1


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    Time: 12:59:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Vans 540 engine baffle kit
    From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net> Well I installed the ENTIRE baffle kit with no trimming in 3 hours. Last one on my 6 took 2 weeks. I have not fit it to the cowl. But EVERY hole and fitting was exactly perfect for my IO-540-c4b5 wide deck. Im Serious. ZERO trimming. I still have to fit the cowl and fit the governor bracket. Mike S8 Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Loren Harmon Subject: [[SPAM]] RE: Rocket-List: Vans 540 engine baffle kit --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Loren Harmon" <landsharmon@tc3net.com> There are many different IO540 cases, and the baffle kit comes very close to mine, but still required some minor surgery to fit the aft pieces. Loren Harmon s/n 76 Subject: Rocket-List: Vans 540 engine baffle kit --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net> Not sure if you all were aware that Vans is now selling a baffle kit for the IO-0540. I received it yesterday and the new artwork that goes with a CAD design is really amazing. I now know why the RV-10 guys love the directions. There is no doubt this is better than any of the baffle "kits" they have done in the past. Now I have to determine if the parts actually fit. If they do, it will be a nice change of pace. Mike Stewart S8 FWF


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    Time: 05:53:02 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
    Subject: Re: HRII intake questions
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> Thanks Tom, Speaking of the marble concern, do you think it wise to put a loose mesh in front of the servo to avoid FOD, or would that screen become FOD due to the high speed air rushing in? I think JH lost a jug when he ingested a nut or bolt thru that opening. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: HRII intake questions > --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net> > > Russ and Jim, > I remember asking John about having "anything" roll down the intake and > then > go into the injector. As much as I want every last inch of RAM air going > into the injector, I have about a 0.5 inch gap between the intake and the > "Y" valve. Therefore, any water doesn't make into the injector. Maybe > this > is the reason, I have the slowest Rocket. > > Water isn't the only issue here. What about a kid with a marble who just > happens to roll it in there while you are not watching? etc. etc. > > Remember, I am a pilot and not a builder. :-) > > Tom Gummo > Apple Valley, CA > Harmon Rocket-II > > http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> > To: <rocket-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Rocket-List: HRII intake questions > > >> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> >> >> Ok HRII builders, this message was posted almost a week ago and has had >> no >> response. Russ has some great questions here, is there no help out >> there? >> Jim Stone >> HRII >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Wernerworld" <russ@wernerworld.com> >> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com> >> Subject: Rocket-List: HRII intake questions >> >> >>> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Wernerworld" <russ@wernerworld.com> >>> >>> I have noticed that when you run water over the cowl, it works it's way >>> down, into the intake snorkel, along the top (ceiling) of that until it >>> ends >>> and then drips down. The angle of the airplane on the ground lands >>> these >>> drips right into the intake Y valve that is on the front of the >>> injector. >>> >>> Concerns here: >>> >>> How does the water get out of the injection/elbow? >>> >>> Would a sniffle valve be a solution and if so, how should it be >>> installed? >>> >>> If this water were to freeze it could be a big problem. Best to plug >>> the >>> intake if parked outside. How best to plug that? >>> >>> >>> Another thing that is bugging me. In the interest of getting maximum >>> cooling through the cylinder fins, it would seem that you would not want >>> any >>> ram intake air to not go into the intake. It seems to me that the Y >>> valve, >>> when open, allows some of the ram pressure to go out the filter into the >>> lower cowl. Also, any intake leak between the Y valve and the inlet >>> snorkel >>> in the cowl would also allow high pressure in the lower cowl. This is a >>> hard spot to seal well without access. Any thoughts on this? >>> >>> Russ HRII >>> Park City, UT >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 06:52:52 PM PST US
    From: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: HRII intake questions
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net> I did. At one time, I was looking at putting some leuves (sp?) to help with cooling and the one I got at the hardware "aviation department" store had a wide screen in it. The mesh is about 1/4 inch square. I just use it to protect the injector. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: HRII intake questions > --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> > > Thanks Tom, > Speaking of the marble concern, do you think it wise to put a loose mesh > in > front of the servo to avoid FOD, or would that screen become FOD due to > the > high speed air rushing in? I think JH lost a jug when he ingested a nut > or > bolt thru that opening. > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net> > To: <rocket-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Rocket-List: HRII intake questions > > >> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net> >> >> Russ and Jim, >> I remember asking John about having "anything" roll down the intake and >> then >> go into the injector. As much as I want every last inch of RAM air going >> into the injector, I have about a 0.5 inch gap between the intake and the >> "Y" valve. Therefore, any water doesn't make into the injector. Maybe >> this >> is the reason, I have the slowest Rocket. >> >> Water isn't the only issue here. What about a kid with a marble who just >> happens to roll it in there while you are not watching? etc. etc. >> >> Remember, I am a pilot and not a builder. :-) >> >> Tom Gummo >> Apple Valley, CA >> Harmon Rocket-II >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> >> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com> >> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: HRII intake questions >> >> >>> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> >>> >>> Ok HRII builders, this message was posted almost a week ago and has had >>> no >>> response. Russ has some great questions here, is there no help out >>> there? >>> Jim Stone >>> HRII >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Wernerworld" <russ@wernerworld.com> >>> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com> >>> Subject: Rocket-List: HRII intake questions >>> >>> >>>> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Wernerworld" <russ@wernerworld.com> >>>> >>>> I have noticed that when you run water over the cowl, it works it's way >>>> down, into the intake snorkel, along the top (ceiling) of that until it >>>> ends >>>> and then drips down. The angle of the airplane on the ground lands >>>> these >>>> drips right into the intake Y valve that is on the front of the >>>> injector. >>>> >>>> Concerns here: >>>> >>>> How does the water get out of the injection/elbow? >>>> >>>> Would a sniffle valve be a solution and if so, how should it be >>>> installed? >>>> >>>> If this water were to freeze it could be a big problem. Best to plug >>>> the >>>> intake if parked outside. How best to plug that? >>>> >>>> >>>> Another thing that is bugging me. In the interest of getting maximum >>>> cooling through the cylinder fins, it would seem that you would not >>>> want >>>> any >>>> ram intake air to not go into the intake. It seems to me that the Y >>>> valve, >>>> when open, allows some of the ram pressure to go out the filter into >>>> the >>>> lower cowl. Also, any intake leak between the Y valve and the inlet >>>> snorkel >>>> in the cowl would also allow high pressure in the lower cowl. This is >>>> a >>>> hard spot to seal well without access. Any thoughts on this? >>>> >>>> Russ HRII >>>> Park City, UT >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 08:41:30 PM PST US
    From: HPaine <hpaine@earthlink.net>
    Subject: intakes
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: HPaine <hpaine@earthlink.net> Listers it is a real good idea to saftey wire (.020) the screws that hold on the butterfly valve on either johns or airflowperformace intankes. Yes you will have to put in new screws with saftey wire holes and yes it looks ugly ....but not nealy as ugly as a loose screw that has done custom machine work on your engines valves and pistons. Harry 266HP




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