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1. 06:53 AM - axles (Frazier, Vincent A)
2. 08:00 AM - Re: Rocket 1 (Randy Lervold)
3. 09:24 AM - Re: Original Rocket (RV3 base) (Ron Carter)
4. 09:27 AM - Re: axles (Ron Carter)
5. 11:43 AM - Re: axles (Bowen Miles)
6. 12:58 PM - Re: axles (Ron Carter)
7. 01:00 PM - Another F-1 Flies (Ron Carter)
8. 03:56 PM - Re: Another F-1 Flies (LesDrag@aol.com)
9. 08:54 PM - Rocket 1 (Professor Fate)
Message 1
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
SNIP For what it's worth two of us here have used the aluminum axles and
have
over 300 hours between us. They are fine but if you are concerned get
the
steel ones - it's peace of mind for you. SNIP
Does it matter? Won't the bolts break long before anything bends the
axle? Am I missing something here?
Vince - aluminum axles with Clevelands
Message 2
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
> I am flying a rocket one and building an F-1. The person who owns the
> rocket 1 doesn't fly anymore and is looking to sell it. I don't have the
> details here, but If you are interested, I can forward them to you
> tomorrow.
My understanding, based on a conversation about a year ago with John Harmon,
is that there were two fully built. I can say for certain that one is up in
Pt.Townsend, Washington and is flown regularly. It's a beaufiful plane and I
have a picture of it stashed at home that I'll post if I remember this
weekend. Harmon does still sell the parts to convert an RV-3.
Randy Lervold
www.rv-3.com
Message 3
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| Subject: | Re: Original Rocket (RV3 base) |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Ron Carter" <ronc@metropolisdesign.com>
No he did'nt. I asked him about that plane a couple times and he finally
admitted the thing is a devil and would'nt wish it on anyone.
Ron Carter
HR2 #49
575 hrs ttsn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
Subject: Rocket-List: Original Rocket (RV3 base)
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
>
> Does anyone know if John Harmon produced plans for his original Rocket? I
am thinking of building an RV3 and I'd like to use that design for the
aesthetics (I'm going light weight and low power - O 235 probably).
>
> If I can find the right plane however I might buy a flying -3.
>
> jim
>
>
Message 4
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Ron Carter" <ronc@metropolisdesign.com>
I have AL axles on my ship with 575 hours and no axle problems and I've
landed hard enough to hit my prop because of gear leg flex.
Ron Carter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
Subject: Rocket-List: axles
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
>
>
> SNIP For what it's worth two of us here have used the aluminum axles and
> have
> over 300 hours between us. They are fine but if you are concerned get
> the
> steel ones - it's peace of mind for you. SNIP
>
> Does it matter? Won't the bolts break long before anything bends the
> axle? Am I missing something here?
>
> Vince - aluminum axles with Clevelands
>
>
Message 5
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: Bowen Miles <cessna170bdriver@yahoo.com>
There is more than one type of aluminum axle that were used on the Cessnas. The
first was the lightweight where the axle tube was the same thickness (approx,
0.125) all the way back to the mounting plate. Several 170's have been lost due
to these breaking off at the plate. Beign aluminum, it's not one or two hard
landings that get them, but over time the fatigue and crack.
A later aluminum axle is only thin right at the threads, the rest of the tube
back to the plate is about .5 inches thick. A third type of aluminum axle is solid
all the way and is used on ski planes. Many 170 owners have coverted to the
solid aluminum or the newer steel tubular axles.
Miles Bowen
C170B
HRII plans #211
Starting back to work on wings after 5-year lay-off
"Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu> wrote:
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A"
SNIP For what it's worth two of us here have used the aluminum axles and
have
over 300 hours between us. They are fine but if you are concerned get
the
steel ones - it's peace of mind for you. SNIP
Does it matter? Won't the bolts break long before anything bends the
axle? Am I missing something here?
Vince - aluminum axles with Clevelands
Message 6
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Ron Carter" <ronc@metropolisdesign.com>
My axles are the solid type.
Ron Carter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bowen Miles" <cessna170bdriver@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: axles
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: Bowen Miles
<cessna170bdriver@yahoo.com>
>
> There is more than one type of aluminum axle that were used on the
Cessnas. The first was the lightweight where the axle tube was the same
thickness (approx, 0.125) all the way back to the mounting plate. Several
170's have been lost due to these breaking off at the plate. Beign aluminum,
it's not one or two hard landings that get them, but over time the fatigue
and crack.
>
> A later aluminum axle is only thin right at the threads, the rest of the
tube back to the plate is about .5 inches thick. A third type of aluminum
axle is solid all the way and is used on ski planes. Many 170 owners have
coverted to the solid aluminum or the newer steel tubular axles.
>
> Miles Bowen
> C170B
> HRII plans #211
> Starting back to work on wings after 5-year lay-off
>
> "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu> wrote:
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A"
>
>
> SNIP For what it's worth two of us here have used the aluminum axles and
> have
> over 300 hours between us. They are fine but if you are concerned get
> the
> steel ones - it's peace of mind for you. SNIP
>
> Does it matter? Won't the bolts break long before anything bends the
> axle? Am I missing something here?
>
> Vince - aluminum axles with Clevelands
>
>
Message 7
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| Subject: | Another F-1 Flies |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Ron Carter" <ronc@metropolisdesign.com>
Cal Brubaker flew his F-1 yesterday at Skypark airport in Bountiful UT. Flight
went very well, plane looked and sounded terriffic. Cal executed a fine landing
in front of fellow builders, friends and family.
Congratulations Cal!
Ron Carter
HRII #49
575 TTSN
Message 8
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| Subject: | Re: Another F-1 Flies |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: LesDrag@aol.com
Congratulations!
Cal Brubaker. That name looks familiar. It must have a 3 blade MT
propeller on it. :-)
Another set of Gloss Black blades with Yellow tips flying around in Utah.
Best Regards,
Jim Ayers
In a message dated 11/11/2005 1:00:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
ronc@metropolisdesign.com writes:
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Ron Carter" <ronc@metropolisdesign.com>
Cal Brubaker flew his F-1 yesterday at Skypark airport in Bountiful UT.
Flight went very well, plane looked and sounded terriffic. Cal executed a fine
landing in front of fellow builders, friends and family.
Congratulations Cal!
Ron Carter
HRII #49
575 TTSN
Message 9
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Professor Fate" <vwbugin@sbcglobal.net>
Two rocket one's flying is what we know. I have seen the one from Washington and
it is a nice looking airplane. I attached a picture of the one I fly, it is
based WJF in so cal. The owner/builder isn't flying anymore so I take it out once
and a while just to circulate the oil. It is a fine flying airplane.
Steve
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