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1. 07:13 AM - Re: netiquette.* (Kevin Shannon)
2. 09:43 AM - Re: netiquette.* (JOHN STARN)
3. 10:38 AM - fuse jigging (Larry E. James)
4. 12:30 PM - Re: netiquette.* (nico css)
5. 12:44 PM - Re: netiquette.* (Tom Martin)
6. 01:21 PM - netiquette.* (JOHN STARN)
7. 03:33 PM - Re: fuse jigging (Kevin Shannon)
8. 03:55 PM - Re: netiquette.* (Jim)
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Kevin Shannon" <kshannon@seanet.com>
And in the spirit of the mental picture this paints, after you hang the
engine on an RV-8 or similar taildragger, don't take the weight off of the
tail (which in my case was the slider canopy in the open position)
STEP ONE: Close canopy
STEP TWO: Stand back and admire VS stuck in the ceiling like a big hatchet
Wahooo
Kevin
Do not archive
/SNIP/
Do not let go of wing #1 without support. Do not let go of wing #1 without
support. Do not let...........you get the idea.
HRII N561FS Closing in on 300 hrs. Do Not Archive (GBA & GWB) KABONG
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| Subject: | Re: netiquette.* |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Yep. That balance thing works front to back as well as side to side. Also be
careful with TD RV's and their derivatives on the ground with too much RPM
(runup-cycle the prop etc.) and/or hitting the brakes HARD. Will become
nosedragger in a heartbeat. Do Not Archive KABONG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Shannon" <kshannon@seanet.com>
> And in the spirit of the mental picture this paints, after you hang the
> engine on an RV-8 or similar taildragger, don't take the weight off of the
> tail (which in my case was the slider canopy in the open position)
> STEP ONE: Close canopy
> STEP TWO: Stand back and admire VS stuck in the ceiling like a big hatchet
> Wahooo
>
> Kevin
> Do not archive
>
> /SNIP/
> Do not let go of wing #1 without support. Do not let go of wing #1
> without
> support. Do not let...........you get the idea.
> HRII N561FS Closing in on 300 hrs. Do Not Archive (GBA & GWB) KABONG
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Larry E. James" <larry@ncproto.com>
Hi Kevin,
Some of the pictures of a fuselage center section being
jigged with the wings may have been of mine; they have
been posted on John Harmon's site. My reasoning for
doing this is somewhat different than most although some
points may still apply. I am building the entire
fuselage assy / structure without any rivets so that it
can be disassembled, etched, primed, and finally
assembled at once. This is allowing me to integrate all
systems as easily and optimally as possible; if an
airframe piece could be modified or made new to
incorporate dual (or triple) function, I can do it.
What you see in these pictures is the cockpit floor
going in as one piece that was CNC machined for
accuracy; thus acting as a reference of its own. One
thing I've noticed about many RV's is a mis-match of the
fuselage underside with the wing underside. Mocking-up
all of this up with the wings in place allowed me to
match all of the lower skins. It also allowed perfect
mating at both front and rear spars.
I did no skinning at this stage. Now everyone has their
own way and I'm not advocating this way ....... it's
just how I went about it.
--
Larry E. James
Bellevue, WA
Harmon Rocket II
fuselage / systems
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| Subject: | Re: netiquette.* |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
You can overcome runup nose-over by holding the stick all the way back, no?
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: netiquette.*
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
>
> Yep. That balance thing works front to back as well as side to side. Also
be
> careful with TD RV's and their derivatives on the ground with too much RPM
> (runup-cycle the prop etc.) and/or hitting the brakes HARD. Will become
> nosedragger in a heartbeat. Do Not Archive KABONG
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Shannon" <kshannon@seanet.com>
> > And in the spirit of the mental picture this paints, after you hang the
> > engine on an RV-8 or similar taildragger, don't take the weight off of
the
> > tail (which in my case was the slider canopy in the open position)
> > STEP ONE: Close canopy
> > STEP TWO: Stand back and admire VS stuck in the ceiling like a big
hatchet
> > Wahooo
> >
> > Kevin
> > Do not archive
> >
> > /SNIP/
> > Do not let go of wing #1 without support. Do not let go of wing #1
> > without
> > support. Do not let...........you get the idea.
> > HRII N561FS Closing in on 300 hrs. Do Not Archive (GBA & GWB) KABONG
>
>
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Tom Martin" <fairlea@amtelecom.net>
You can still go up on the nose if you are holding the stick all the way
back. It helps, but if you stomp on the brakes hard while taxing you will
go up on your nose.
Tom Martin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: netiquette.*
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
You can overcome runup nose-over by holding the stick all the way back, no?
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: netiquette.*
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
>
> Yep. That balance thing works front to back as well as side to side. Also
be
> careful with TD RV's and their derivatives on the ground with too much RPM
> (runup-cycle the prop etc.) and/or hitting the brakes HARD. Will become
> nosedragger in a heartbeat. Do Not Archive KABONG
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Shannon" <kshannon@seanet.com>
> > And in the spirit of the mental picture this paints, after you hang the
> > engine on an RV-8 or similar taildragger, don't take the weight off of
the
> > tail (which in my case was the slider canopy in the open position)
> > STEP ONE: Close canopy
> > STEP TWO: Stand back and admire VS stuck in the ceiling like a big
hatchet
> > Wahooo
> >
> > Kevin
> > Do not archive
> >
> > /SNIP/
> > Do not let go of wing #1 without support. Do not let go of wing #1
> > without
> > support. Do not let...........you get the idea.
> > HRII N561FS Closing in on 300 hrs. Do Not Archive (GBA & GWB) KABONG
>
>
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
NO>>>NO----NO.....run it up too high an RPM, or cycle the prop which then
takes a sudden GREAT big bite of air with the brakes locked,
ding.....ding..... CRUNCH. (that's the sound of prop---prop---spinner). This
is not a maybe....this has happened SEVERAL times. Twice just at APV, Apple
Valley, Calif. in the past 3 years. Engine test ?, Chain the tail down with
a short chain. RV TD types can & WILL nose over in a heartbeat. Stick full
back ?...YES that is required but it's not enough. KABONG (GBA & GWB)
----- Original Message -----
From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: netiquette.*
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
>
> You can overcome runup nose-over by holding the stick all the way back,
> no?
> Nico
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: netiquette.*
>> > STEP ONE: Close canopy
>> > STEP TWO: Stand back and admire VS stuck in the ceiling like a big
> hatchet
>> > Do not let go of wing #1 without support. Do not let go of wing #1
>> > without support. Do not let...........you get the idea.
>> > HRII N561FS Closing in on 300 hrs. Do Not Archive (GBA & GWB) KABONG
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Kevin Shannon" <kshannon@seanet.com>
Thanks guys for the good info, I think it WAS your site where I saw the
pictures Vince, great site, I have looked around in there a lot while I was
supposed to be working.
We're almost neighbors Larry, I am over on the Hood Canal in a little place
called Seabeck. I would come over there and see your project, except I am
mighty skeered of all that TRAFFIC!
Kevin Shannon
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry E. James
Subject: Rocket-List: fuse jigging
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Larry E. James" <larry@ncproto.com>
Hi Kevin,
Some of the pictures of a fuselage center section being
jigged with the wings may have been of mine; they have
been posted on John Harmon's site. My reasoning for
doing this is somewhat different than most although some
points may still apply. I am building the entire
fuselage assy / structure without any rivets so that it
can be disassembled, etched, primed, and finally
assembled at once. This is allowing me to integrate all
systems as easily and optimally as possible; if an
airframe piece could be modified or made new to
incorporate dual (or triple) function, I can do it.
What you see in these pictures is the cockpit floor
going in as one piece that was CNC machined for
accuracy; thus acting as a reference of its own. One
thing I've noticed about many RV's is a mis-match of the
fuselage underside with the wing underside. Mocking-up
all of this up with the wings in place allowed me to
match all of the lower skins. It also allowed perfect
mating at both front and rear spars.
I did no skinning at this stage. Now everyone has their
own way and I'm not advocating this way ....... it's
just how I went about it.
--
Larry E. James
Bellevue, WA
Harmon Rocket II
fuselage / systems
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| Subject: | Re: netiquette.* |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
I get a hernia every time I pick up the tail of my HR2 to level the plane
for whatever reason but DAM is that tail light taxiing....I bumped the
throttle just a little bit once and suddenly I could see over the nose. I
was lucky - got it down quickly - but DAM!!
jim
'05 HR2
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