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Sat 02/18/06


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 06:16 AM - Re:Flight Test Report (Rob Mokry)
     2. 08:00 AM - Re: Flight Test Progress (Jim Anglin)
     3. 11:21 AM - Fuel Psi (Bob & Toodie Marshall)
     4. 05:13 PM -  ()
     5. 06:52 PM - Re: Temps (JOHNTMEY@aol.com)
     6. 07:43 PM - Re: Temps (css nico)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:16:36 AM PST US
    From: "Rob Mokry" <robmokry@covad.net>
    Subject: RE:Flight Test Report
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Rob Mokry" <robmokry@covad.net> Subject: Rocket-List: Flight Test Progress --> Rocket-List message posted by: JOHNTMEY@aol.com John, Your fuel burn sounds about right. I have extended tanks one bay and get 52gal max. My airfoil has a smaller radius and more gentle ramp back however. I figure 2galls unusable but it is a bit less. I would suggest you level the aircraft, get some tanks and carefully measure exactly how much goes in and disconnect your fuel line and carefully measure how much comes out. I actually had to do this to calibrate my electronic fuel gauges and about as much fun as pro-sealing the tanks. Vapor lock.....The only trouble I had was in the summer in Phoenix or Palm Desert while ideling waiting for my clearance. I have had trouble with the push-pull cables seizing up when hot - prior to installing them in firesleave. Oil Temp? Get the largest cooler you can find/afford! Good Luck! Rob


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    Time: 08:00:20 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Anglin" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Flight Test Progress
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Jim Anglin" <n144hr@earthlink.net> I have been flying my HR II since May last year and would have to agree with your observations, with the exception of unusable fuel. If you indeed have that much unusable I would have to question where you placed your fuel pickup - of course, it's too late to change it so...... Your speed and fuel burn are realistic although I think you burn a higher rate than mine but not much. Mine also backfired when I reduced power but now I leave it quite lean and it doesn't do it. At reduced power lean mixture won't hurt anything. Just try leaning a little on each approach and see if it reduces backfiring. Mine also pops a little on the ground when it is hot. My fuel pressures don't remain steady, and never have on any of the airplanes I have owned - as long as it has pressure and the engine is happy, I'm happy. Have Fun. Jim Anglin HR II N144HR DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 11:21:13 AM PST US
    From: "Bob & Toodie Marshall" <rtmarshall@osb.net>
    Subject: Fuel Psi
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Bob & Toodie Marshall" <rtmarshall@osb.net> Hi John, your fuel pressure is ? My fuel pressure had a habit of dropping from 25 Psi to about 16-19 and once in a while to about 12# and of course a short switch of the boost pump would fix it. It has been doing this for about 100 hrs and then the lyc fuel pump SB came out, apparently loose seat for ball check inside these certain # pumps. I replaced pump and now fuel pressure remains at 24-25 Psi at all times,I obviously had a defective pump which by the way complied with their last SB per ser# stamping. so I assume you have a good pump? Ron Munson at performance engines has the # of the pumps affected, Latest was service bulletin # 548A. But then of course you may know all about this and I am flapping my gums. So congrats on your flying your rocket and having a blast, your numbers sound similar to mine, I show 19" MP and 2150 rpm at 9K indicating 185 MPH average. To OSH and back here To O02 in the sierras I averaged 169 knots per gps data logger. These planes are fantastic performers for the mission. Bob Marshall N#999RM Do Not Archive


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    Time: 05:13:14 PM PST US
    From: <laboggan@mywdo.com>
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    --> Rocket-List message posted by: <laboggan@mywdo.com> Those of you that have multi sensor cylinder head temperature gauges.... What cylinder usually runs the warmest on your Harmons? And/or which two? Mine has to be switched between sensors so I just wanted to know which ones to watch the most.


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    Time: 06:52:35 PM PST US
    From: JOHNTMEY@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Temps
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: JOHNTMEY@aol.com Mine only has 15 hours and I'm watching analyzer like a hawk: >From last ride: Recorded at 3500', about 65F OAT, 20"/2400 rpm, 185 mph IAS EGT CHT 1 1365 343 2 1396 389 3 1372 380 4 1385 380 5 1367 387 6 1396 403 So, CHT for number 1 is notably cool... number 6 is the hottest. J Meyers N5800


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    Time: 07:43:11 PM PST US
    From: "css nico" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
    Subject: Re: Temps
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "css nico" <nico@cybersuperstore.com> Isn't this standard for the cylinders closest to the initial airflow to run the coldest? The same thing happens in water-cooled engines where the #1 cylinder closest to the radiator would run considerably cooler than the last cylinder and would, as a result of that, show more wear at the end of the engine's life. I made some calculations on your temps as follows. Col A is the variation in temp with the previous cylinder, while col B is the variation with cyl. #1. Your readings show an overall cylinder head temperature spread across the engine of 57 deg. EGT A B CHT A B 1 1365 343 2 1396 +31 +31 389 +46 +46 3 1372 -24 +7 380 -9 +37 4 1385 +13 +20 380 0 +37 5 1367 -18 +22 387 +7 +44 6 1396 +29 +31 403 +13 +57 If EGT was a problem there would have been a (near) consistent variation in CHT linked to EGT but check cyl #3 : the EGT is only 7 deg hotter, while the CHT is 37 deg hotter. It could point to a cooling problem. Perhaps a baffle is not installed properly or it is missing? Why #2, which shares the front row with #1, runs so much hotter than its sibling, could be an injector tuning problem because the CHT is higher consistent with the EGT. They should both be cooler than the rest, unless there are other factors influencing the cooling. Very interesting! Just some observations - I am sure the gurus would be able to give a clearer picture on what this story tells. :-) Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: <JOHNTMEY@aol.com> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Temps > --> Rocket-List message posted by: JOHNTMEY@aol.com > > Mine only has 15 hours and I'm watching analyzer like a hawk: > > >From last ride: Recorded at 3500', about 65F OAT, 20"/2400 rpm, 185 mph IAS > EGT A B CHT A B 1 1365 343 2 1396 +31 +31 389 +46 +46 3 1372 -24 +7 380 -9 +37 4 1385 +13 +20 380 0 +37 5 1367 -18 +22 387 +7 +44 6 1396 +29 +31 403 +13 +57 > So, CHT for number 1 is notably cool... number 6 is the hottest. > > J Meyers N5800 > >




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