Rocket-List Digest Archive

Mon 07/10/06


Total Messages Posted: 6



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:04 AM - Re: the ole -4 vs -8 vs HRII thread (panhandler1956)
     2. 06:23 AM - Re: the ole -4 vs -8 vs HRII thread (Rob Mokry)
     3. 08:46 AM - gearleg fairings (Kevin Shannon)
     4. 09:02 AM - Re: HR II hard landing (Ron Carter)
     5. 09:36 AM - Re: Re: the ole -4 vs -8 vs HRII thread (Ron Carter)
     6. 10:01 AM - Re: the ole -4 vs -8 vs HRII thread (panhandler1956)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:04:55 AM PST US
    From: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: the ole -4 vs -8 vs HRII thread
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com> Wow!!! Thanks for all the great advice!!!!! I appreciate everyone's valuable input. I believe in my heart I was (am) settled on a Rocket, I guess I just needed a little encouragement before I dive into this very important decision. What Danny M. said goes to the quick of it, "The RV-8 is a great airplane and if you chose to build one you?will be?comfortable with your decision. Up to the time someone in a Rocket shows up:)?? ?" I guess it just comes down to money and time and with any high performance airplane it is expensive and relatively complex. Wish me luck on building a Rocket...................I like the sound of that! Thanks again!!! Gummo, Thanks for the invite and the encouragement, I am much closer to the "right" coast - Central Ohio. I believe there are some local Rocketeers here, I'll try to track them down. And seems like Indiana has a large population as well. Regards, -------- Brent O. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=46060#46060


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    Time: 06:23:51 AM PST US
    From: "Rob Mokry" <robmokry@covad.net>
    Subject: Re: the ole -4 vs -8 vs HRII thread
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Rob Mokry" <robmokry@covad.net> Russ is spot on....There is no comparison! If you live or fly around big granite rocks and on departure don't want to circle around prior to jumping over them - you want a Rocket. Reno/Tahoe, Telluride, Mammoth to name a few. Just Point the nose up and "leap over the mountain in a single bound" Density altitude? Just yesterday while doing some fly-fishing in eastern sierras , flying out w/ my buddy in his 4, on departure out of Mammoth Lakes 7,100', we had to circle over Crawly Lake to altitude(13,500') before he could cross the rocks. I distinctly remember him saying...."I should have built a Rocket". There is no substitution for cubic inches!


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    Time: 08:46:03 AM PST US
    From: "Kevin Shannon" <kshannon@seanet.com>
    Subject: gearleg fairings
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Kevin Shannon" <kshannon@seanet.com> Are any of the stock RV fiberglass gearleg fairings long enough? What is everybody using ? Kevin Shannon HR II


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    Time: 09:02:41 AM PST US
    From: "Ron Carter" <ronc@metropolisdesign.com>
    Subject: Re: HR II hard landing
    Hi Jim- I see you are using autogas.How is that working and did you have to change any thing on the engine? I have looked in to it a bit and the Christensen? people who do most all the mogas stc's told me dont bother switching considering I've got an injected engine . Ron Carter Hr2 575 ttsn ---- Original Message ----- From: Jim Anglin To: rocket-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: Rocket-List: HR II hard landing I didn't see this but I heard that one of the earlier Rockets, built by TR, had a bad landing at Arlington Friday and needs some serious repair but all aboard were not hurt. I really felt sorry for the guy - he was real enthusiastic about the plane and was having a blast. He bought it from TR sometime before this weekend. I don't have any details other than a big bounce and lack of recovery. I thought Arlington was good this year otherwise - best in recent memory except I froze my a$$ off Thu. night in the drizzle and 50 degrees. The rest of the weekend was hot. I left Sat. at 1 p.m. - almost 90 degrees and my autogas took me out at 100 kts. and over 3000 fpm. Jim Anglin HR II N144HR


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    Time: 09:36:12 AM PST US
    From: "Ron Carter" <ronc@metropolisdesign.com>
    Subject: Re: the ole -4 vs -8 vs HRII thread
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Ron Carter" <ronc@metropolisdesign.com> When I started my Rocket I had no idea how I would ever afford and engine and prop. I started by buying a used Rv-4 tail kit for $1,000 and kept after it till it was done. One year the money materialized for the engine and I have never regetted "Going for Broke" with the rocket. Once the plane is flying fuel isint such a big expense(compared to construction) Ron Carter HR II 575 TTSN ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 6:53 PM > --> Rocket-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com> > > I posted this on VansAirforce.net today, but I believe you Rocketeers are outnumbered over there. Anyway, I am really struggling with the whole RV-8 vs HRII decision. Seems like you can build both for close to the same amount of money. Also I can't afford an F-1 Rocket QB or we wouldn't be having this conversation. I plan to build over 5+ year period to pay cash (might finance the FWF) for the project so that might offset the complexity of the HRII. > > Stuff I have identified: > RV-8 > - much easier to build (this is a big one for me right now) > - more builder support > - no chance of burning 20gph (good and bad) > - not as pretty as the HRII (IMHO) > - cheaper to insure > > > HRII > - Fast > - Climbs like an elevator > - Hard to build with mixing 2 component manufacturers (3 in my case with F-1 parts too) > - Can build for about the same as an -8 > > I am pretty intimidated by the build compared to the factory -8. I am pretty handy and have rebuilt a wood and fabric biplane (Jungster I) and worked at a composite kit factory for 2 years building 2/3 scale P-51 replicas (FEW), but I have no metal airplane experience to speak of. > > I fly for a living so the "hot" factor isn't a concern, but rather an advantage in my book - I like airplanes that scare kids and old ladies. > > Any input is appreciated! > > Brent > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Last edited by panhandler1956 : Today at 01:34 PM. > > -------- > Brent O. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=45968#45968 > >


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    Time: 10:01:27 AM PST US
    From: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: the ole -4 vs -8 vs HRII thread
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com> HR2Flyer wrote: > When I started my Rocket I had no idea how I would ever afford and engine > and prop. I started by buying a used Rv-4 tail kit for $1,000 and kept after > it till it was done. One year the money materialized for the engine and I > have never regetted "Going for Broke" with the rocket. Once the plane is > flying fuel isint such a big expense(compared to construction) > > Ron Carter > > HR II > > 575 TTSN > --- Ron, That's an awesome story! That is how I am approaching it. I am building a budget to show I can actually build an airplane without winning the lottery, but I am sure that I will find some "windfalls" along the way to either speed up the build or add more toys to the basic machine. Thanks for sharing your experience, that is most helpful! -------- Brent O. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=46137#46137




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