---------------------------------------------------------- Rocket-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/10/06: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:04 AM - Re: the ole -4 vs -8 vs HRII thread (panhandler1956) 2. 06:23 AM - Re: the ole -4 vs -8 vs HRII thread (Rob Mokry) 3. 08:46 AM - gearleg fairings (Kevin Shannon) 4. 09:02 AM - Re: HR II hard landing (Ron Carter) 5. 09:36 AM - Re: Re: the ole -4 vs -8 vs HRII thread (Ron Carter) 6. 10:01 AM - Re: the ole -4 vs -8 vs HRII thread (panhandler1956) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:55 AM PST US From: "panhandler1956" Subject: Rocket-List: Re: the ole -4 vs -8 vs HRII thread --> Rocket-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" Wow!!! Thanks for all the great advice!!!!! I appreciate everyone's valuable input. I believe in my heart I was (am) settled on a Rocket, I guess I just needed a little encouragement before I dive into this very important decision. What Danny M. said goes to the quick of it, "The RV-8 is a great airplane and if you chose to build one you?will be?comfortable with your decision. Up to the time someone in a Rocket shows up:)?? ?" I guess it just comes down to money and time and with any high performance airplane it is expensive and relatively complex. Wish me luck on building a Rocket...................I like the sound of that! Thanks again!!! Gummo, Thanks for the invite and the encouragement, I am much closer to the "right" coast - Central Ohio. I believe there are some local Rocketeers here, I'll try to track them down. And seems like Indiana has a large population as well. Regards, -------- Brent O. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=46060#46060 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:51 AM PST US From: "Rob Mokry" Subject: Rocket-List: Re: the ole -4 vs -8 vs HRII thread --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Rob Mokry" Russ is spot on....There is no comparison! If you live or fly around big granite rocks and on departure don't want to circle around prior to jumping over them - you want a Rocket. Reno/Tahoe, Telluride, Mammoth to name a few. Just Point the nose up and "leap over the mountain in a single bound" Density altitude? Just yesterday while doing some fly-fishing in eastern sierras , flying out w/ my buddy in his 4, on departure out of Mammoth Lakes 7,100', we had to circle over Crawly Lake to altitude(13,500') before he could cross the rocks. I distinctly remember him saying...."I should have built a Rocket". There is no substitution for cubic inches! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:03 AM PST US From: "Kevin Shannon" Subject: Rocket-List: gearleg fairings --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Kevin Shannon" Are any of the stock RV fiberglass gearleg fairings long enough? What is everybody using ? Kevin Shannon HR II ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:02:41 AM PST US From: "Ron Carter" Subject: Re: Rocket-List: HR II hard landing Hi Jim- I see you are using autogas.How is that working and did you have to change any thing on the engine? I have looked in to it a bit and the Christensen? people who do most all the mogas stc's told me dont bother switching considering I've got an injected engine . Ron Carter Hr2 575 ttsn ---- Original Message ----- From: Jim Anglin To: rocket-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: Rocket-List: HR II hard landing I didn't see this but I heard that one of the earlier Rockets, built by TR, had a bad landing at Arlington Friday and needs some serious repair but all aboard were not hurt. I really felt sorry for the guy - he was real enthusiastic about the plane and was having a blast. He bought it from TR sometime before this weekend. I don't have any details other than a big bounce and lack of recovery. I thought Arlington was good this year otherwise - best in recent memory except I froze my a$$ off Thu. night in the drizzle and 50 degrees. The rest of the weekend was hot. I left Sat. at 1 p.m. - almost 90 degrees and my autogas took me out at 100 kts. and over 3000 fpm. Jim Anglin HR II N144HR ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:36:12 AM PST US From: "Ron Carter" Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Re: the ole -4 vs -8 vs HRII thread --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Ron Carter" When I started my Rocket I had no idea how I would ever afford and engine and prop. I started by buying a used Rv-4 tail kit for $1,000 and kept after it till it was done. One year the money materialized for the engine and I have never regetted "Going for Broke" with the rocket. Once the plane is flying fuel isint such a big expense(compared to construction) Ron Carter HR II 575 TTSN ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 6:53 PM > --> Rocket-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" > > I posted this on VansAirforce.net today, but I believe you Rocketeers are outnumbered over there. Anyway, I am really struggling with the whole RV-8 vs HRII decision. Seems like you can build both for close to the same amount of money. Also I can't afford an F-1 Rocket QB or we wouldn't be having this conversation. I plan to build over 5+ year period to pay cash (might finance the FWF) for the project so that might offset the complexity of the HRII. > > Stuff I have identified: > RV-8 > - much easier to build (this is a big one for me right now) > - more builder support > - no chance of burning 20gph (good and bad) > - not as pretty as the HRII (IMHO) > - cheaper to insure > > > HRII > - Fast > - Climbs like an elevator > - Hard to build with mixing 2 component manufacturers (3 in my case with F-1 parts too) > - Can build for about the same as an -8 > > I am pretty intimidated by the build compared to the factory -8. I am pretty handy and have rebuilt a wood and fabric biplane (Jungster I) and worked at a composite kit factory for 2 years building 2/3 scale P-51 replicas (FEW), but I have no metal airplane experience to speak of. > > I fly for a living so the "hot" factor isn't a concern, but rather an advantage in my book - I like airplanes that scare kids and old ladies. > > Any input is appreciated! > > Brent > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Last edited by panhandler1956 : Today at 01:34 PM. > > -------- > Brent O. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=45968#45968 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:01:27 AM PST US From: "panhandler1956" Subject: Rocket-List: Re: the ole -4 vs -8 vs HRII thread --> Rocket-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" HR2Flyer wrote: > When I started my Rocket I had no idea how I would ever afford and engine > and prop. I started by buying a used Rv-4 tail kit for $1,000 and kept after > it till it was done. One year the money materialized for the engine and I > have never regetted "Going for Broke" with the rocket. Once the plane is > flying fuel isint such a big expense(compared to construction) > > Ron Carter > > HR II > > 575 TTSN > --- Ron, That's an awesome story! That is how I am approaching it. I am building a budget to show I can actually build an airplane without winning the lottery, but I am sure that I will find some "windfalls" along the way to either speed up the build or add more toys to the basic machine. Thanks for sharing your experience, that is most helpful! -------- Brent O. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=46137#46137