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1. 07:35 AM - Rocket Weight (Lee Armstrong)
2. 08:21 AM - Re: Rocket Weight (Tom Gummo)
3. 11:12 AM - Re: Rocket Weight (Tom Gummo)
4. 08:43 PM - RV-List: Tail lifting during full power static test (JOHN STARN)
5. 08:50 PM - Re: RV-List: Tail lifting during full power static test (amecum)
6. 11:37 PM - Re: RV-List: Tail lifting during full power static test (Frank Baldwin)
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--> Rocket-List message posted by: Lee Armstrong <kevin@bondedcomponents.freeserve.co.uk>
Hi There,
A few Q's, does anyone know why the Original spec for the HR was 1781lb
gross weight ???
I've also noticed that the Harmon's site now states a much more generous
2000lb gross weight, does anyone know why ???
Oh and possibly a big favour, could a few of you let me know what the
Weight & Balance calcs were for your Rockets (Empty weight, Gross
Weight, Luggage Cap, pilot/passenger station etc).
The reason is that we are currently having fun with the PFA, the UK body
over the weight and official capabilities of the aircraft...it sounds
like they may let it fly but without a passenger & luggage...Idiotic or
what - Like its underpowered ;-)
Thanks,
Lee (passenger)
http://www.bondedcomponents.co.uk/rocket/
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| Subject: | Re: Rocket Weight |
Attached is my Pilot Operating Handbook.
In it, are my Gross Weight Limits, W/B etc.
Good Luck.
Tom
(remember there are times when one must break the rules)
:-)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Armstrong" <kevin@bondedcomponents.freeserve.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 7:34 AM
Subject: Rocket-List: Rocket Weight
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: Lee Armstrong
> <kevin@bondedcomponents.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> Hi There,
>
> A few Q's, does anyone know why the Original spec for the HR was 1781lb
> gross weight ???
>
> I've also noticed that the Harmon's site now states a much more generous
> 2000lb gross weight, does anyone know why ???
>
> Oh and possibly a big favour, could a few of you let me know what the
> Weight & Balance calcs were for your Rockets (Empty weight, Gross Weight,
> Luggage Cap, pilot/passenger station etc).
>
> The reason is that we are currently having fun with the PFA, the UK body
> over the weight and official capabilities of the aircraft...it sounds like
> they may let it fly but without a passenger & luggage...Idiotic or what -
> Like its underpowered ;-)
>
> Thanks,
> Lee (passenger)
>
> http://www.bondedcomponents.co.uk/rocket/
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rocket Weight |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
Sorry.
Hit the reply button instead of sending directly.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Rocket Weight
> Attached is my Pilot Operating Handbook.
> In it, are my Gross Weight Limits, W/B etc.
>
> Good Luck.
> Tom
>
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| Subject: | RV-List: Tail lifting during full power static test |
Don't look now BUT Gummibear & I (and others) have been YELLING "Tie it
down" & have someone (without glasses) hold the tail down for at least
the past five years. Maybe we need to have re-runs of very important
safety issues every 3 to 6 months. While on the subject: Do Not stomp on
the brakes of ANY RV- conventional geared airplane at slow speed
(walking/taxi speed). They WILL, not might, they WILL put their nose on
the tarmac quicker than you can react. KABONG Do Not Archive it's
already in there several times.
Subject: RV-List: Tail lifting during full power static test
Listers--We are close to flying our RV-6. On the airworthiness
certificate application it requires the builder to state that "the
powerplant installation has undergone at least one hour of ground
operation at various speeds from idle to full power. . . ." Yesterday
during the first full power static test holding brakes and with the
stick full aft the tail came up on me. Because I was approaching full
power gradually (being nervous about just this sort of possibility) I
was able to quickly close the throttle before the prop hit the ground.
LeRoy Johnston in Ohio.
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| Subject: | RV-List: Tail lifting during full power static test |
Oh yes it will and it will do it fast!
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From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOHN STARN
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:43 PM
Subject: Rocket-List: RV-List: Tail lifting during full power static test
Don't look now BUT Gummibear & I (and others) have been YELLING "Tie it
down" & have someone (without glasses) hold the tail down for at least the
past five years. Maybe we need to have re-runs of very important safety
issues every 3 to 6 months. While on the subject: Do Not stomp on the brakes
of ANY RV- conventional geared airplane at slow speed (walking/taxi speed).
They WILL, not might, they WILL put their nose on the tarmac quicker than
you can react. KABONG Do Not Archive it's already in there several times.
Subject: RV-List: Tail lifting during full power static test
Listers--We are close to flying our RV-6. On the airworthiness certificate
application it requires the builder to state that "the powerplant
installation has undergone at least one hour of ground operation at various
speeds from idle to full power. . . ." Yesterday during the first full
power static test holding brakes and with the stick full aft the tail came
up on me. Because I was approaching full power gradually (being nervous
about just this sort of possibility) I was able to quickly close the
throttle before the prop hit the ground.
LeRoy Johnston in Ohio.
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List: Tail lifting during full power static test |
Regarding the statement "application requires one hour of ground
time..." is new to this DAR.
Look at the sample FAA Form 8130-6 in Advisory Circular 20-27, it shows
ZERO time on the application.
I hope this helps to eliminate some unsafe procedures. Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: amecum
To: rocket-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:50 PM
Subject: RE: Rocket-List: RV-List: Tail lifting during full power
static test
Oh yes it will and it will do it fast!
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From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOHN STARN
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:43 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: Rocket-List: RV-List: Tail lifting during full power static
test
Don't look now BUT Gummibear & I (and others) have been YELLING "Tie
it down" & have someone (without glasses) hold the tail down for at
least the past five years. Maybe we need to have re-runs of very
important safety issues every 3 to 6 months. While on the subject: Do
Not stomp on the brakes of ANY RV- conventional geared airplane at slow
speed (walking/taxi speed). They WILL, not might, they WILL put their
nose on the tarmac quicker than you can react. KABONG Do Not Archive
it's already in there several times.
Subject: RV-List: Tail lifting during full power static test
Listers--We are close to flying our RV-6. On the airworthiness
certificate application it requires the builder to state that "the
powerplant installation has undergone at least one hour of ground
operation at various speeds from idle to full power. . . ." Yesterday
during the first full power static test holding brakes and with the
stick full aft the tail came up on me. Because I was approaching full
power gradually (being nervous about just this sort of possibility) I
was able to quickly close the throttle before the prop hit the ground.
LeRoy Johnston in Ohio.
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