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Tue 08/29/06


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 05:26 AM - Re: TaxiCam On Board (JOHNTMEY@aol.com)
     2. 05:58 AM - Re: Re: TaxiCam On Board (Nuffer, Chuck)
     3. 06:10 AM - forward looking camera (Frazier, Vincent A)
     4. 06:13 AM - Re: FW: TBM Avenger/RV-6 accident at OSH (what to do) (Lee Logan)
     5. 06:23 AM - ACS camera (Frazier, Vincent A)
     6. 06:29 AM - Re: Re: TaxiCam On Board (Tom Martin)
     7. 10:13 AM - Re: ACS camera (Kevin Shannon)
     8. 02:04 PM - Re: ACS camera (JOHNTMEY@aol.com)
     9. 05:26 PM - Re: FW: TBM Avenger/RV-6 accident at OSH (what to do) (Fred LaForge)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:26:43 AM PST US
    From: JOHNTMEY@aol.com
    Subject: Re: TaxiCam On Board
    Good Idea, the TAXICAM, (Vince Frazier gets credit on this one !) Perhaps this is an entreprenurial opportunity for some noble, aviation-minded capitalist tekkie. Good time to do it after the accident at OSH. I don't think anyone has a package to sell. Units I know of are cobbled together, including my own. Actual Users: Motorhomes in backup mode (monitor) Skateboarders (record) Skydivers (record) Nascar (record and transmit) Combat T-6s and T-34s (record) Spies Others ? I would be interested in communicating with anyone who is setting up monitor (active LCD) or recording. I want 12Volt acceptance for all components and LCD harmonious with Sony Bullet cam. I have some entertaining video which comes close to TAXICAM. I mounted my Sony BulletCam (unprotected) on a standoff using the bottom.wing-body fairing screws just inboard of the right flap. The BulletCam wire comes into fuselage inside the flap pushrod hole... for the video recording, I use a Sony GVD-1000 portable VCR recorder. Same hookup to an LCD screen would be good too. The belly-view is forward between the gear. My mount was temporary but it could be made more permanent... not much drag there... dirty air anyway. My stuff all came from Ebay, buy-it-now, new. Look for Hoyttech kits (car racing or video equip). I like Vince Frazier's set-up in the inlet... very subtle. Vince... record that view sometime. If anyone wants to see how the SonyBulletCam can record, look at my movies on Vince's website. Also if you want to see the forward belly view, I'll send a 5 mg download... lemme know at _johntmey@aol.com_ (mailto:johntmey@aol.com)


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    Time: 05:58:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: TaxiCam On Board
    From: "Nuffer, Chuck" <CNuffer@it21.com>
    Not sure whose rocket this was.......... but I shot this pic a couple years ago........ wheel pant mounted camera. http://www.f1rocket.com/html/oshkosh_2005_94.htm Regards, Chuck Nuffer S/N82 www.f1rocket.com ________________________________ From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOHNTMEY@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:25 AM Subject: Rocket-List: Re: TaxiCam On Board Good Idea, the TAXICAM, (Vince Frazier gets credit on this one !) Perhaps this is an entreprenurial opportunity for some noble, aviation-minded capitalist tekkie. Good time to do it after the accident at OSH. I don't think anyone has a package to sell. Units I know of are cobbled together, including my own. Actual Users: Motorhomes in backup mode (monitor) Skateboarders (record) Skydivers (record) Nascar (record and transmit) Combat T-6s and T-34s (record) Spies Others ? I would be interested in communicating with anyone who is setting up monitor (active LCD) or recording. I want 12Volt acceptance for all components and LCD harmonious with Sony Bullet cam. I have some entertaining video which comes close to TAXICAM. I mounted my Sony BulletCam (unprotected) on a standoff using the bottom.wing-body fairing screws just inboard of the right flap. The BulletCam wire comes into fuselage inside the flap pushrod hole... for the video recording, I use a Sony GVD-1000 portable VCR recorder. Same hookup to an LCD screen would be good too. The belly-view is forward between the gear. My mount was temporary but it could be made more permanent... not much drag there... dirty air anyway. My stuff all came from Ebay, buy-it-now, new. Look for Hoyttech kits (car racing or video equip). I like Vince Frazier's set-up in the inlet... very subtle. Vince... record that view sometime. If anyone wants to see how the SonyBulletCam can record, look at my movies on Vince's website. Also if you want to see the forward belly view, I'll send a 5 mg download... lemme know at johntmey@aol.com


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    Time: 06:10:43 AM PST US
    Subject: forward looking camera
    From: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu> Sorry to chime in on this sorta late: 1) GRT claims that their screen won't accept video, but then at Oshkosh they said that "someone" had a USB adapter that would allow it. I wish I knew who that was. I'd get one ASAP. Please call them up and bug the crap outta them. 2) the top of the fin isn't a good spot for a taxi camera. Too low and you can't see past the nose. Mark E. had his in the wheelpant and said it worked well, until it shook loose and became a speedbump. 3) sorry, no wiring diagrams. Most are plug and play. 4) why can't it go in a round inlet? Is there no aluminum baffle in front of the cylinder at all? 5) the prop does show in the video. On my camera(s) simply changing RPM at bit eliminates it, but it's never been a big hindrance. The biggest hindrance to these systems is finding a suitable monitor that you can read in the sunlight. 6) don't buy a motorhome backup camera. Their fisheye lens gives no depth to the field of view. Have fun. Vince


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    Time: 06:13:21 AM PST US
    From: "Lee Logan" <leeloganster@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: FW: TBM Avenger/RV-6 accident at OSH (what to do)
    Glass it into your wing tip fairing, perhaps?? May do that on mine... Regards, Lee...


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    Time: 06:23:15 AM PST US
    Subject: ACS camera
    From: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/flycam1000.php cool... apparently ACS thinks that this is a good idea too. I'd not seen these when I installed mine. I don't think they were available. I wonder why they chose the larger camera. Regardless, it looks like a good system... if the monitor is readable in the sun. Vince


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    Time: 06:29:03 AM PST US
    From: "Tom Martin" <fairlea@amtelecom.net>
    Subject: Re: TaxiCam On Board
    John I purchased the same sony bullet camera that Vince is using but it has a BNC connection that will not mate with most cam recorders. Does your recorder use that connection? Tom Martin _____ From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOHNTMEY@aol.com Sent: August 29, 2006 8:25 AM Subject: Rocket-List: Re: TaxiCam On Board Good Idea, the TAXICAM, (Vince Frazier gets credit on this one !) Perhaps this is an entreprenurial opportunity for some noble, aviation-minded capitalist tekkie. Good time to do it after the accident at OSH. I don't think anyone has a package to sell. Units I know of are cobbled together, including my own. Actual Users: Motorhomes in backup mode (monitor) Skateboarders (record) Skydivers (record) Nascar (record and transmit) Combat T-6s and T-34s (record) Spies Others ? I would be interested in communicating with anyone who is setting up monitor (active LCD) or recording. I want 12Volt acceptance for all components and LCD harmonious with Sony Bullet cam. I have some entertaining video which comes close to TAXICAM. I mounted my Sony BulletCam (unprotected) on a standoff using the bottom.wing-body fairing screws just inboard of the right flap. The BulletCam wire comes into fuselage inside the flap pushrod hole... for the video recording, I use a Sony GVD-1000 portable VCR recorder. Same hookup to an LCD screen would be good too. The belly-view is forward between the gear. My mount was temporary but it could be made more permanent... not much drag there... dirty air anyway. My stuff all came from Ebay, buy-it-now, new. Look for Hoyttech kits (car racing or video equip). I like Vince Frazier's set-up in the inlet... very subtle. Vince... record that view sometime. If anyone wants to see how the SonyBulletCam can record, look at my movies on Vince's website. Also if you want to see the forward belly view, I'll send a 5 mg download... lemme know at johntmey@aol.com


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    Time: 10:13:29 AM PST US
    From: "Kevin Shannon" <kshannon@seanet.com>
    Subject: ACS camera
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Kevin Shannon" <kshannon@seanet.com> Looks like this camera would fit nicely in one of those Duckworth leading edge landing light kits Kevin Shannon Severson Construction LLC 360-373-4206v 360-373-3548f 206-786-1488c -----Original Message----- From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frazier, Vincent A Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:24 AM Subject: Rocket-List: ACS camera --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/flycam1000.php cool... apparently ACS thinks that this is a good idea too. I'd not seen these when I installed mine. I don't think they were available. I wonder why they chose the larger camera. Regardless, it looks like a good system... if the monitor is readable in the sun. Vince


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    Time: 02:04:01 PM PST US
    From: JOHNTMEY@aol.com
    Subject: Re: ACS camera
    Looks like a "bingo" on packaged "TAXICAM" (Aircraft Spruce item, the Flycam 1000) ! JohnM N5800 do not archive


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    Time: 05:26:24 PM PST US
    From: "Fred LaForge" <fred.laforge@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: FW: TBM Avenger/RV-6 accident at OSH (what to do)
    --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Fred LaForge" <fred.laforge@verizon.net> I have been thinking about a camera too, It may end up near the left landing light. Fred LaForge EAA tech counselor,RV-4, HR-II project ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 10:17 PM Subject: Re: Rocket-List: FW: TBM Avenger/RV-6 accident at OSH (what to do) > --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net> > > Yo Gummo.. One thing about pointing it forward is that damn prop really > messes up the video. If you figure out how to eliminate the prop spinning > in > the picture, please let me know. > Weav > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net> > To: <rocket-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 9:36 PM > Subject: Re: Rocket-List: FW: TBM Avenger/RV-6 accident at OSH (what to > do) > > >> --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net> >> >> I have been thinking about it for my Rocket too. >> >> I heard of someone putting the camera in the wheel pants. >> >> As I have a very slow Rocket, I am also thinking about glassing it into > the >> flaring on the top of the vertical stabilizer. (A little more drag won't >> effect me.) It has been done in the past but I haven't looked to see if >> it >> would give me taxi info. It would be great for flying shots. >> >> Tom >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <jerrymanda@sbcglobal.net> >> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 2:32 PM >> Subject: RE: Rocket-List: FW: TBM Avenger/RV-6 accident at OSH (what to > do) >> >> >> > --> Rocket-List message posted by: <jerrymanda@sbcglobal.net> >> > >> > We'd like to install a camera in the HR-2 but we have the round inlets. >> > (we'll figure something out) >> > >> > Is there a page with info on your camera? Missed it. We've been >> > looking at motorhome cameras, and the system that ACS sells for $800. >> > >> > We are installing GRT also so installing in back seat would be great. >> > >> > Thanks for any info. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com >> > [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frazier, >> > Vincent A >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:37 AM >> > To: rocket-list@matronics.com >> > Subject: Rocket-List: FW: TBM Avenger/RV-6 accident at OSH (what to do) >> > >> > --> Rocket-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" >> > <VFrazier@usi.edu> >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:29 AM >> > >> > Regarding the accident, I'd like to toss out a few comments just to >> > offer some info and some related experiences. >> > >> > I've been flying my Rocket for 2 years and 130 hours now. It's great >> > fun but does have its share of weaknesses. One of which is the lack of >> > visibility over the nose when on the ground. Yes, I know all about >> > S-turns, so save your breath on those comments please. >> > >> > In my Rocket I found that I could not see an RV-6 until it was much >> > less >> > than 100' away if the big nose was in the way. Since we had a couple >> > of >> > RV-8s collide on a taxiway near here a few years ago, it really >> > bothered >> > me that the blind spot was, well... huge and inconvenient. My RV >> > buddies would zoom down the taxiway because they had reasonable >> > visibility and I would follow along doing S-turns at a much slower >> > speed. >> > >> > So, being a bit of a gadget freak, I decided to add a camera and LCD >> > screen to my plane. The Sony bullet color camera (VC-806B, standard >> > lens)and LCD screen were relatively cheap, only a few hundred bucks... >> > next to nothing in airplane dollars. The camera is mounted in the left >> > cowl inlet and the heat and vibration don't seem to bother it at all. >> > The LCD screen (sorry, no p/n available) is mounted under the panel and >> > works well even in bright sun, although it isn't quite 100% immune to >> > sunlight glare. >> > >> > Now when I follow my RV buddies I still S-turn as needed, but often can >> > simply glance at the LCD screen for confirmation. IT DOESN'T REPLACE >> > S-TURNS, but it gives a wonderful SUPPLEMENT. (I'm trying to choose my >> > words carefully because I know that I'll be flamed for being >> > DIFFERENT.) >> > I use the camera/LCD combo during virtually all of my ground ops and >> > find it very useful!!! With a quick glance I can see pop cans, runway >> > lights, debris, small animals, cracks in the pavement, etc, etc.... all >> > sorts of things that I don't want to run over!!! >> > >> > Now to share some reactions... last year at Oshkosh a warbird pilot >> > asked me what the LCD screen was for. When I told him that it was my >> > "taxi assist camera" he spun on his heel and walked away shaking his >> > head. I thought "Hmmm, whatever". I guess that he didn't think too >> > much of my system or my skills. Now, after 2 recent accidents (that I >> > know of) and a fatality, I wonder which mindset is correct, mine or >> > his? >> > >> > http://vincesrocket.com/Additions%20after%2010-27-04.htm for more info >> > >> > Vince >> > >> > FWIW, I also wanted a cheap way to display my GRT EFIS info to the back >> > seat passenger in my plane. GRT wants $2500 for a slave display. >> > Another camera and LCD screen easily displays the GRT info to the rear >> > seater and it cost 10% of what GRT wanted. Not as elegant, but 100% >> > useful. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> > > > -- > >




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