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1. 04:39 AM - Re: Insurance (JOHNTMEY@aol.com)
2. 06:59 AM - Re: Insurance (CalBru@aol.com)
3. 07:18 AM - Re: (nico css)
4. 07:53 AM - Re: (Red Hamilton)
5. 12:28 PM - Re: Rocket-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 06/26/07 (Dave Lind)
6. 12:48 PM - Insurance companies (Jim Stone)
7. 12:52 PM - Re: Insurance companies (Fred Weaver)
8. 12:56 PM - Re: Insurance companies Ditto (JOHNTMEY@aol.com)
9. 01:01 PM - Re: Insurance companies (Rob Ray)
10. 01:20 PM - Re: Insurance companies (Jim Stone)
11. 01:20 PM - Re: Insurance companies (Rob Ray)
12. 02:34 PM - Re: Insurance companies (vft@aol.com)
13. 02:58 PM - Re: Insurance companies (Jim Stone)
14. 04:58 PM - Re: Insurance companies (Fred Weaver)
15. 07:29 PM - Re: Insurance companies (Rob Ray)
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Larry,
Once upon a time, Les Featherstone in Missouri was offering help ...,
regarding getting checked out.
15 hours is a bit of a stretch. There is no Rocket that is a commercial
unit so any time you get is courtesy of the owner and his good grace. Too bad
the insurance co's are anal about this.
My rec (with disclaimer). Manage the risk ! Get time in RV-4, RV-6, -8,
any RV tailwheel, any tailwheel, get a Rocket ride, F-1 ride... and if you are
feeling proficient... just go fly your Rocket 1st flight on a calm day. If
you built it right and got everything torqued correctly, it will be a
pussy-cat. You may end up flying 15 hours without totally being covered according
to your carrier. Nevermind that you are a test pilot flying off 25 (or 50)
hours of gov't required flight test program, investigating the envelope,
finding Va, Vx, Vy and all sorts of stuff... which the insurance co never figured
into their relevance. When you buy the insurance and sign the premium check,
aren't you betting you will crash ? What will the cause be... engine quits
? Or will you screw up a landing ? If after you get some exposure in
similar type,.. and you actually seriously think you are going to crash yours,
better not fly it ...ever. (My disclaimer would be that I may be totally full
of ****! )
I'm a CFI and have a Rocket with dual contols ... have put young pilots in
the front seat, no biggie. But I don't do touch-and-goes nor actual
instruction. The Rocket time is too valuable and too fleeting to measure. I
barely
meet your insurance co's time-in-type req (60 hrs) and I have been an
owner-flyer for 18 months. If you come to the Olympic Peninsula, I'll give you
30
minutes and a couple landings, no charge except you buy lunch. You can
probably find closer and more pertinent help around Colorado. Check with the
RVers
around DEN. Rich Winnick has F-1 but I doubt he would "rent" the beast.
Others ?
Good luck... we hope to hear good things about your 1st flight.
JohnM N5800 Sequim, WA
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I trained for a couple of hours with Craig Fordam at Boulder City, NV in his
Extra 300, then went up and spent some time in Scapoose, OR with Mike
Seager--the RV CFI. I highly recommend him.
My first landing was still probably my best; I flew naked for 20 hours until
I could qualify for insurance. I did not have an "hours with a CFI"
requirement, which I now am confronted with in my new Bearhawk!
Cal
F1 N954CB 120 hours
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Wouldn't they consider covering the plane while a CFI with those
qualifications are flying your Rocket? That way you don't have to use
someone else's machine.
Nico
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
laboggan@mywdo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:22 PM
Subject: Rocket-List:
I am getting ready to insure my plane for first flights
and for flying.
I have to find someone that I can get 15 hours of
instruction from a CFI in a Harmon Rocket.
The insurance company has some exact guidelines I have to
complete to get insured.
The CFI has to have 1000pic, 250 tailwheel, 50 in a Harmon
Rocket, no accidents, incidents, violations, etc...and I
have to take these 15 hours in a Harmon Rocket.
If anyone has this and is willing to do this with me
please let me know what you would want for doing
it...$$$$.
I live in Colorado Springs but looks like I'll have to
travel to get this done.
Seems Harmon Rockets have some pretty stiff insurance
requirements and a nice large cost.
I'm not willing to fly without it...
anyone willing to help, please email me. Thanks.
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If you are a member of the Antique/Classic division of EAA, there is a
program that includes homebuilts/tailwheels/high
performance/handpropping that required no time in type (not a Rocket in
my case) to have insurance including first flight; assuming that you
have used the EAA tech counselor and flight advisor programs and can
document that.
Red
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From: nico css
To: rocket-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:18 AM
Subject: RE: Rocket-List:
<nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Wouldn't they consider covering the plane while a CFI with those
qualifications are flying your Rocket? That way you don't have to use
someone else's machine.
Nico
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
laboggan@mywdo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:22 PM
To: rocket-list@matronics.com
Subject: Rocket-List:
I am getting ready to insure my plane for first flights
and for flying.
I have to find someone that I can get 15 hours of
instruction from a CFI in a Harmon Rocket.
The insurance company has some exact guidelines I have to
complete to get insured.
The CFI has to have 1000pic, 250 tailwheel, 50 in a Harmon
Rocket, no accidents, incidents, violations, etc...and I
have to take these 15 hours in a Harmon Rocket.
If anyone has this and is willing to do this with me
please let me know what you would want for doing
it...$$$$.
I live in Colorado Springs but looks like I'll have to
travel to get this done.
Seems Harmon Rockets have some pretty stiff insurance
requirements and a nice large cost.
I'm not willing to fly without it...
anyone willing to help, please email me. Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: Rocket-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 06/26/07 |
On Jun 26, 2007, at 11:57 PM, Rocket-List Digest Server wrote:
> laboggan@mywdo.com>
Would address you by name if I knew it....
A little more than two years ago I was in a similar circumstance. I
was about to purchase a Harmon II and based on my reading of their
requirements I thought I had to get instruction in a Harmon. But it
turned out it was just any tailwheel aircraft of that 'type' and I took
the instruction and received an endorsement from the person that Vans
recommends (not far from Portland,Oregon) in his RV-7.
dave lind
530 284-1433
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| Subject: | Insurance companies |
I am looking for insurance on my Rocket. Can you fellas give me some
names of companies who will insure Rockets please?
Thanks,
Jim Stone
PS. Calling Avemco today
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance companies |
Gee whiz Jim.... Why don't you call the most expensive guys first? Make
your calls to EAA and Falcon. They have the right programs.
Weav
Jim Stone wrote:
> I am looking for insurance on my Rocket. Can you fellas give me some
> names of companies who will insure Rockets please?
> Thanks,
> Jim Stone
> PS. Calling Avemco today
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance companies Ditto |
Ditto Falcon...
JohnM N5800 Sequim WA
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance companies |
AUA in North carolina. 1-800-727-3823
RR
Jim Stone <jrstone@insightbb.com> wrote:
I am looking for insurance on my Rocket. Can you fellas give me some
names of companies who will insure Rockets please?
Thanks,
Jim Stone
PS. Calling Avemco today
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance companies |
Falcon sez they do not insure HR. They recommended Avemco or London.
Avemco does not insure you for Phase I of the Test program and yet they
appear to be closely associated with EAA.
Any ideas on who else to call?
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Insurance companies
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> Gee whiz Jim.... Why don't you call the most expensive guys first? Make
> your calls to EAA and Falcon. They have the right programs.
> Weav
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> Jim Stone wrote:
>> I am looking for insurance on my Rocket. Can you fellas give me some
>> names of companies who will insure Rockets please?
>> Thanks,
>> Jim Stone
>> PS. Calling Avemco today
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance companies |
AUA in NC 1800-727-3823..
RR
Rob Ray <smokyray@yahoo.com> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance companies |
Cannon Insurance will cover F1's but not the HR2.?You can contact?them here: http://www.cannonaviation.com/
Danny Melnik
F1 #25
Melbourne (FL) Rocket Factory
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From: Rob Ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Insurance companies
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance companies |
Rob, the below is all I got from you, was there more?
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Ray
To: rocket-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Insurance companies
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance companies |
Jim and all....
I've had recent experience with Nationair on some RV policies. Give
Jenny Estes a call as she is quite knowledgeable about these airplanes
and might be able to help. Their phone number is 636.532.0023. They are
also reasonable when it comes to the checkout with your airplane because
they understand there aren't a lot of CFI's that are capable of doing
the job. It's better to have a competent Rocket pilot check you out and
provide the familiarization flights. Then you don't wad up your new
plane because you've had the right stuff. I can help almost anyone get
squared away that really needs it. Most of you guys could just get in
and fly it... The Rocket is a very nice plane to fly and won't bite you
unless you are really not paying any attention at all.....
Again, I think you should ask for Jenny...
Weav
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance companies |
AUA insurance in NC, I recommend them highly...
RR
Jim Stone <jrstone@insightbb.com> wrote:
Rob, the below is all I got from you, was there more?
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Ray
To: rocket-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Insurance companies
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