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1. 05:21 AM - Re: Rocket-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 06/28/07 (Jeff Linebaugh)
2. 06:52 AM - Re: Re: Rocket-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 06/28/07 (Rob Ray)
3. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: Rocket-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 06/28/07 (Wolfgang Meyn)
4. 08:56 AM - Re: (nico css)
5. 11:21 AM - RV8 Rocket (Max Hegler)
6. 11:25 AM - ()
7. 12:04 PM - Re: RV8 Rocket (Michael W Stewart)
8. 02:06 PM - Re: (Rob Ray)
9. 02:14 PM - Re: Rocket-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 06/28/07 (Jeff Linebaugh)
10. 02:28 PM - Re: Insurance stuff (Fred Weaver)
11. 02:30 PM - Re: Insurance stuff (Fred Weaver)
12. 05:58 PM - Re: Re: RV8 Rocket ()
13. 06:33 PM - Re: Re: RV8 Rocket (nico css)
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| Subject: | RE: Rocket-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 06/28/07 |
$1500 for full coverage? Smokey...you are the man! That is at least half
what everyone else has been paying...most are in the order of $3K. Who
wrote your policy? I understand there are only two companies writing
policies...
Jeff Linebaugh
jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
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Time: 10:49:11 AM PST US
From: Rob Ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Rocket-List:
I pay $1500 a year for full hull coverage on a 96 HR2. AUA insurance in NC
1800-727-3823.
RR
laboggan@mywdo.com wrote:
thanks everyone for the help.
Jim,
London is who is quoting me my insurance on my rocket.
Only 5 grand a year...........meaning, I won't be owning
this plane long.
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Time: 03:16:47 PM PST US
From: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Insurance companies
Thanks Weav!
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Insurance companies
>
>
> Jim and all....
> I've had recent experience with Nationair on some RV policies. Give
> Jenny Estes a call as she is quite knowledgeable about these airplanes
> and might be able to help. Their phone number is 636.532.0023. They are
> also reasonable when it comes to the checkout with your airplane because
> they understand there aren't a lot of CFI's that are capable of doing
> the job. It's better to have a competent Rocket pilot check you out and
> provide the familiarization flights. Then you don't wad up your new
> plane because you've had the right stuff. I can help almost anyone get
> squared away that really needs it. Most of you guys could just get in
> and fly it... The Rocket is a very nice plane to fly and won't bite you
> unless you are really not paying any attention at all.....
>
> Again, I think you should ask for Jenny...
> Weav
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Rocket-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 06/28/07 |
Jeff,
Be careful, my data plate says RV4 and I think it went to the carrier as an RV4.
It might be less because of that. When you talk to AUA ask for Rob Kamsch
and see what he can work out. Quotes are free...
RR
Jeff Linebaugh <jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> wrote:
$1500 for full coverage? Smokey...you are the man! That is at least half
what everyone else has been paying...most are in the order of $3K. Who
wrote your policy? I understand there are only two companies writing
policies...
Jeff Linebaugh
jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
________________________________ Message 3
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Time: 10:49:11 AM PST US
From: Rob Ray
Subject: Re: Rocket-List:
I pay $1500 a year for full hull coverage on a 96 HR2. AUA insurance in NC
1800-727-3823.
RR
laboggan@mywdo.com wrote:
thanks everyone for the help.
Jim,
London is who is quoting me my insurance on my rocket.
Only 5 grand a year...........meaning, I won't be owning
this plane long.
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Time: 03:16:47 PM PST US
From: "Jim Stone"
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Insurance companies
Thanks Weav!
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Weaver"
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Insurance companies
>
>
> Jim and all....
> I've had recent experience with Nationair on some RV policies. Give
> Jenny Estes a call as she is quite knowledgeable about these airplanes
> and might be able to help. Their phone number is 636.532.0023. They are
> also reasonable when it comes to the checkout with your airplane because
> they understand there aren't a lot of CFI's that are capable of doing
> the job. It's better to have a competent Rocket pilot check you out and
> provide the familiarization flights. Then you don't wad up your new
> plane because you've had the right stuff. I can help almost anyone get
> squared away that really needs it. Most of you guys could just get in
> and fly it... The Rocket is a very nice plane to fly and won't bite you
> unless you are really not paying any attention at all.....
>
> Again, I think you should ask for Jenny...
> Weav
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Rocket-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 06/28/07 |
Well,
my policy just came up for renewal.
Falcon told me that they do not write new policies but they renew the
existing ones which in my case (and acc. to them in everybody else's) go
through GLOBAL. What I got was $ 450.00 for liability and 1.83% of the hull
value (all risk). My premium for 2007/08 didn't change.
The only guys who write new policies are the Cannon guys out of Scottsdale
http://www.cannonaviation.com/index.php (talk to Todd Smith).
They also require a certain amount of dual and from what I remember are not
insuring the 20/40 initial hours.
The premium they quoted me was about $1000.00 higher than what I pay with
Falcon. I guess there rates are about 2.4% of hull value.
Cheers
Wolfgang (F1 140hrs,)
PS.: I hold ATP,MEI,CFI,CFII and got about 5000 hrs (500 TW). total with
no accidents but I think this didn't do much for my rates.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Linebaugh
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 6:21 AM
Subject: Rocket-List: RE: Rocket-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 06/28/07
<jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net>
$1500 for full coverage? Smokey...you are the man! That is at least half
what everyone else has been paying...most are in the order of $3K. Who
wrote your policy? I understand there are only two companies writing
policies...
Jeff Linebaugh
jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
________________________________ Message 3
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Time: 10:49:11 AM PST US
From: Rob Ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Rocket-List:
I pay $1500 a year for full hull coverage on a 96 HR2. AUA insurance in NC
1800-727-3823.
RR
laboggan@mywdo.com wrote:
thanks everyone for the help.
Jim,
London is who is quoting me my insurance on my rocket.
Only 5 grand a year...........meaning, I won't be owning
this plane long.
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Time: 03:16:47 PM PST US
From: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Insurance companies
Thanks Weav!
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Insurance companies
>
>
> Jim and all....
> I've had recent experience with Nationair on some RV policies. Give
> Jenny Estes a call as she is quite knowledgeable about these airplanes
> and might be able to help. Their phone number is 636.532.0023. They are
> also reasonable when it comes to the checkout with your airplane because
> they understand there aren't a lot of CFI's that are capable of doing
> the job. It's better to have a competent Rocket pilot check you out and
> provide the familiarization flights. Then you don't wad up your new
> plane because you've had the right stuff. I can help almost anyone get
> squared away that really needs it. Most of you guys could just get in
> and fly it... The Rocket is a very nice plane to fly and won't bite you
> unless you are really not paying any attention at all.....
>
> Again, I think you should ask for Jenny...
> Weav
>
>
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Do any of the Rocket or F1 derivatives use the RV 8 as a basis? I am
wondering if I can use the RV-8 fuselage with the tapered wings from a
Rocket or F1.
Thanks,
Max
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If your insurance says RV-4 it will not cover you in a big
accident.
Same when you give a fake address on car insurance..they
will pay small claims but if you end up with a big one
they will do everything they can to not pay...
all they have to do is prove you falsified the contract
with them.
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There are RV-8's with 540's on them.
You would not be able to use the 8 fuse with the evo wing without serio
us
modification.
The wing root and carry through are completely different as are the rea
r
spar connects and dimensions.
Best,
Mike
"Max Hegler"
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Thanks,
Max
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Laboggan,
I spoke with my agent briefly today. As far as AIG is concerned, the Rocket is
a hybrid RV with alot of HP insured for the value stated. Having dealt with
AUA for 15 years and had friends with claims, falsification is not an issue. It
has everything to do with what is on the data plate. If your FAA registry says
RV4, that is how it insured.If it says HR2 then you go with it. Every experimental
is a "one of a kind" in the FAA eyes and insurance companies. RV's have
"safety in numbers" but are still considered "homebuilts". If it happens to
have a 540 in it and costs 85K+, then so be it. Since the Rocket is 80% RV4 parts,
you have a case to call it an RV4...It's worth investigating.
RR
laboggan@mywdo.com wrote:
If your insurance says RV-4 it will not cover you in a big
accident.
Same when you give a fake address on car insurance..they
will pay small claims but if you end up with a big one
they will do everything they can to not pay...
all they have to do is prove you falsified the contract
with them.
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| Subject: | Re: Rocket-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 06/28/07 |
Rob,
Eeecks....so if you ball'd it up, you think they'd write you a check?
As for free quotes...taint the case... The insurance companies have got that locked
up...you can't get a quote unless you sign an exclusive agreement with that
broker to get you a quote...that way you can't shop around, and they don't
have to do mulitple quotes.
That is why I asked who your insurance policy is with...
Jeff
Jeff,
Be careful, my data plate says RV4 and I think it went to the carrier as an RV4.
It might be less because of that. When you talk to AUA ask for Rob Kamsch and
see what he can work out. Quotes are free...
RR
--------
Jeff Linebaugh
jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
Collierville, TN
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121255#121255
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance stuff |
Incorrect.... Jeff, this only happens when you "surrender" your N
Number. If you are getting quotes, you don't have to provide an N number
but they don't tell you that. All you have to do to get quotes is tell
them you haven't finished yet but you are shopping. That way, they can't
"Lock you up"...
And Yes, I think if Rob balled it up, they would pay. It's all about the
numbers you give them. They work the premiums around the numbers. If Rob
provided a hull value that he was comfortable with, I'm sure the premium
represents it.
Weav
Jeff Linebaugh wrote:
>
> Rob,
>
> Eeecks....so if you ball'd it up, you think they'd write you a check?
>
> As for free quotes...taint the case... The insurance companies have got that
locked up...you can't get a quote unless you sign an exclusive agreement with
that broker to get you a quote...that way you can't shop around, and they don't
have to do mulitple quotes.
>
> That is why I asked who your insurance policy is with...
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Jeff,
>
> Be careful, my data plate says RV4 and I think it went to the carrier as an RV4.
It might be less because of that. When you talk to AUA ask for Rob Kamsch
and see what he can work out. Quotes are free...
>
> RR
>
> --------
> Jeff Linebaugh
> jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
> Collierville, TN
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121255#121255
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance stuff |
Incorrect.... Jeff, this only happens when you "surrender" your N
Number. If you are getting quotes, you don't have to provide an N number
but they don't tell you that. All you have to do to get quotes is tell
them you haven't finished yet but you are shopping. That way, they can't
"Lock you up"...
And Yes, I think if Rob balled it up, they would pay. It's all about the
numbers you give them. They work the premiums around the numbers. If Rob
provided a hull value that he was comfortable with, I'm sure the premium
represents it.
Weav
Jeff Linebaugh wrote:
>
> Rob,
>
> Eeecks....so if you ball'd it up, you think they'd write you a check?
>
> As for free quotes...taint the case... The insurance companies have got that
locked up...you can't get a quote unless you sign an exclusive agreement with
that broker to get you a quote...that way you can't shop around, and they don't
have to do mulitple quotes.
>
> That is why I asked who your insurance policy is with...
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Jeff,
>
> Be careful, my data plate says RV4 and I think it went to the carrier as an RV4.
It might be less because of that. When you talk to AUA ask for Rob Kamsch
and see what he can work out. Quotes are free...
>
> RR
>
> --------
> Jeff Linebaugh
> jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net
> Collierville, TN
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121255#121255
>
>
>
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Sorry I just don't get it. Why would you use a -8 to make a "Rocket". Gear leg
boxes to get in the way of your feet. Less room overall. If you want a Rocket,
build one...HRII or F-1, slower (HRII)build or QB (F-1). Take your pick unless
ya "need" pre-punched.
Do Not Archive KABONG HRII N561FS.....waiting on the RV-12
>From: Michael W Stewart <mike.stewart@us.ibm.com>
>Date: 2007/06/29 Fri PM 02:01:28 CDT
>To: rocket-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Rocket-List: RV8 Rocket
>
>There are RV-8's with 540's on them.
>You would not be able to use the 8 fuse with the evo wing without serious modification.
>The wing root and carry through are completely different as are the rear spar
connects and dimensions.
>Best,
>Mike
>
>"Max Hegler" <MaxHegler@msn.com>
>Subject
>Rocket-List: RV8 Rocket
>Do any of the Rocket or F1 derivatives use the RV 8 as a basis? I am wondering
if I can use the RV-8 fuselage with the tapered wings from a Rocket or F1.
>
>Thanks,
>Max
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RV-12?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jhstarn@verizon.net
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Rocket-List: RV8 Rocket
Sorry I just don't get it. Why would you use a -8 to make a "Rocket". Gear
leg boxes to get in the way of your feet. Less room overall. If you want a
Rocket, build one...HRII or F-1, slower (HRII)build or QB (F-1). Take your
pick unless ya "need" pre-punched.
Do Not Archive KABONG HRII N561FS.....waiting on the RV-12
>From: Michael W Stewart <mike.stewart@us.ibm.com>
>Date: 2007/06/29 Fri PM 02:01:28 CDT
>To: rocket-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Rocket-List: RV8 Rocket
>
>There are RV-8's with 540's on them.
>You would not be able to use the 8 fuse with the evo wing without serious
modification.
>The wing root and carry through are completely different as are the rear
spar connects and dimensions.
>Best,
>Mike
>
>"Max Hegler" <MaxHegler@msn.com>
>Subject
>Rocket-List: RV8 Rocket
>Do any of the Rocket or F1 derivatives use the RV 8 as a basis? I am
wondering if I can use the RV-8 fuselage with the tapered wings from a
Rocket or F1.
>
>Thanks,
>Max
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