---------------------------------------------------------- Rocket-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/31/08: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:23 AM - Re: Fuel vents (lesdrag@aol.com) 2. 09:25 AM - Re: Rocket-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/30/08 (Ron Carter) 3. 09:56 AM - () 4. 10:14 AM - Re: Ron Carter (Fred Weaver) 5. 10:38 AM - Re: Re: Ron Carter (Rob Ray) 6. 10:40 AM - Re: Fuel vents (Jim Stone) 7. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: Ron Carter (Greg Young) 8. 11:20 AM - Re: (Rob Ray) 9. 04:56 PM - Re: Re: Ron Carter (Mark Neufeld - HR-2) 10. 05:16 PM - Re: Re: Fuel vents (Mark Neufeld - HR-2) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:23:50 AM PST US Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Fuel vents From: lesdrag@aol.com My fuel vents (two) face forward into the airstream exiting from the cowl.? They are mounted side by side on the fuselage centerline about 2" behind the firewall.? A different form of heated vents.? :-) It is also a convenient location for the brake reservoir static vents that are?in the same fittings. http://www.lessdrag.com/machinedparts.html Regards, Jim Ayers -----Original Message----- From: Mark Neufeld - HR-2 Sent: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 7:24 pm Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Fuel vents Do your fuel vent lines turn forward into the air stream, or are they cut 45* toward the air stream? Would that make a difference? My fist flight, HR II, N145HR, Fox Field, Lancaster, Ca, is about two weeks away. I'm ready now but my Garmin 330 transponder has an AD which requires the unit be sent to Garmin. Turn around is two long weeks. I discovered the AD when I inquired about the pitot static sytem check. The AD requires compliance after the required transponder pitot static system check. FAR 91.205(a) (civil aircraft) require all the equipment in the plane to be operable at the time when the airworthiness certificate is issued? That's the way I understand it.... even AD's? I now about FAR 91.213 approved equip list, but that's not applicable. Mark Neufeld From: Wernerworld Subject: Rocket-List: Fuel vents ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:25:10 AM PST US From: "Ron Carter" Subject: Rocket-List: Re: Rocket-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 01/30/08 Forward into the airstream. You might be interested in some stream lined and faired fuel vents and drain covers available at aircraft extras.com Ron Carter HR2 # 149 675 ttsn On 1/31/08, Rocket-List Digest Server wrote: > > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Rocket-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Rocket-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-01-30&Archive=Rocket > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 08-01-30&Archive=Rocket > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Rocket-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Wed 01/30/08: 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 07:36 PM - Re: Fuel vents (Mark Neufeld - HR-2) > > > ________________________________ Message > 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:36:53 PM PST US > From: Mark Neufeld - HR-2 > Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Fuel vents > > > Do your fuel vent lines turn forward into the air stream, or are they cut > 45* toward > the air stream? Would that make a difference? > > My fist flight, HR II, N145HR, Fox Field, Lancaster, Ca, is about two > weeks away. > I'm ready now but my Garmin 330 transponder has an AD which requires the > unit > be sent to Garmin. Turn around is two long weeks. I discovered the AD > when > I inquired about the pitot static sytem check. The AD requires compliance > after the required transponder pitot static system check. > > FAR 91.205(a) (civil aircraft) require all the equipment in the plane to > be operable > at the time when the airworthiness certificate is issued? That's the way > I understand it.... even AD's? I now about FAR 91.213 approved equip > list, > but that's not applicable. > > Mark Neufeld > > > From: Wernerworld > Subject: Rocket-List: Fuel vents > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:56:58 AM PST US From: Subject: Rocket-List: A few months ago people were writing about oil blowby under their planes. I have the problem myself. Have an air/oil seperator but it still blows out. I have let the oil get down to 9 qts and have now let it get to 7.5 and will see if it quits blowing out from here or even down to 6 quarts. Seems like someone wrote theirs leveled off at 6. Seems odd that a 12 quart oil system has to blow down to 6 quarts to level off. Anyone know why this happens? Can it be a cylinder with bad compression creating the blowby? I'll check that next though I don't think any of my cylinders are anywhere near worn. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:14:16 AM PST US From: Fred Weaver Subject: Rocket-List: Re: Ron Carter Hey Ron.... The link doesn't really go where you want it to go........ You might try that one again. Thanks, Weav Ron Carter wrote: > Forward into the airstream. You might be interested in some stream > lined and faired fuel vents and drain covers available at aircraft > extras.com > > Ron Carter > HR2 # 149 675 ttsn > > > On 1/31/08, *Rocket-List Digest Server* > wrote: > > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Rocket-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest > formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked > Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII > version > of the Rocket-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-01-30&Archive=Rocket > > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 08-01-30&Archive=Rocket > > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Rocket-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Wed 01/30/08: 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 07:36 PM - Re: Fuel vents (Mark Neufeld - HR-2) > > > ________________________________ Message > 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:36:53 PM PST US > From: Mark Neufeld - HR-2 > > Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Fuel vents > > > Do your fuel vent lines turn forward into the air stream, or are > they cut 45* toward > the air stream? Would that make a difference? > > My fist flight, HR II, N145HR, Fox Field, Lancaster, Ca, is about > two weeks away. > I'm ready now but my Garmin 330 transponder has an AD which > requires the unit > be sent to Garmin. Turn around is two long weeks. I discovered > the AD when > I inquired about the pitot static sytem check. The AD requires > compliance > after the required transponder pitot static system check. > > FAR 91.205(a) (civil aircraft) require all the equipment in the > plane to be operable > at the time when the airworthiness certificate is issued? That's > the way > I understand it.... even AD's? I now about FAR 91.213 approved > equip list, > > * > > > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:15 AM PST US From: Rob Ray Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Re: Ron Carter Ron, I cut mine with a 45 into the wind then drilled them through about 1/4 inch from the bottom and put a piece of safety wire through the tube. This keeps the mud-dobbers out...technique only.. RR Fred Weaver wrote: Hey Ron.... The link doesn't really go where you want it to go........ You might try that one again. Thanks, Weav Ron Carter wrote: Forward into the airstream. You might be interested in some stream lined and faired fuel vents and drain covers available at aircraft extras.com Ron Carter HR2 # 149 675 ttsn On 1/31/08, Rocket-List Digest Server wrote: * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Rocket-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Rocket-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. 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My fist flight, HR II, N145HR, Fox Field, Lancaster, Ca, is about two weeks away. I'm ready now but my Garmin 330 transponder has an AD which requires the unit be sent to Garmin. Turn around is two long weeks. I discovered the AD when I inquired about the pitot static sytem check. The AD requires compliance after the required transponder pitot static system check. FAR 91.205(a) (civil aircraft) require all the equipment in the plane to be operable at the time when the airworthiness certificate is issued? That's the way I understand it.... even AD's? I now about FAR 91.213 approved equip list, href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Rocket-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Rocket-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:40:47 AM PST US From: "Jim Stone" Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Fuel vents Hey Mark, Tell me more about the 330 AD. Or send me in the right direction. Thanks, Jim Stone Louisville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Neufeld - HR-2" Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:24 PM Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Fuel vents > > > Do your fuel vent lines turn forward into the air stream, or are they cut > 45* toward the air stream? Would that make a difference? > > My fist flight, HR II, N145HR, Fox Field, Lancaster, Ca, is about two > weeks away. I'm ready now but my Garmin 330 transponder has an AD which > requires the unit be sent to Garmin. Turn around is two long weeks. I > discovered the AD when I inquired about the pitot static sytem check. The > AD requires compliance after the required transponder pitot static system > check. > > FAR 91.205(a) (civil aircraft) require all the equipment in the plane to > be operable at the time when the airworthiness certificate is issued? > That's the way I understand it.... even AD's? I now about FAR 91.213 > approved equip list, but that's not applicable. > > Mark Neufeld > > > From: Wernerworld > Date: 2008/01/04 Fri PM 01:00:28 CST > To: rocket-list@matronics.com > Subject: Rocket-List: Fuel vents > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:51:50 AM PST US From: "Greg Young" Subject: RE: Rocket-List: Re: Ron Carter Try www.aircraftextras.com Regards, Greg Young _____ From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Weaver Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: Rocket-List: Re: Ron Carter Hey Ron.... The link doesn't really go where you want it to go........ You might try that one again. Thanks, Weav Ron Carter wrote: Forward into the airstream. You might be interested in some stream lined and faired fuel vents and drain covers available at aircraft extras.com Ron Carter HR2 # 149 675 ttsn ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:20:14 AM PST US From: Rob Ray Subject: Re: Rocket-List: My airboat friends around here all run IO-540's and tell me blowby is pretty common, especially on the 540. Airboat engine guys claim it is the length and depth of the sump combined with 6 cyllinders banging away creating the pressure. Most of the airboaters I have met have notches cut into their dipsticks at 6 qts (as do I). They also abuse their 540's to reassure us flyers of the strength of the engine. My local airboat lycoming friend showed me several racing airboat 540's brought in for overhaul. One had been run at 3500 RPM for an entire race with 2 qts remaining due to a cracked oil cooler with no damage. They also routinely see 500+ CHT's since they don't use baffling and are pushers. I asked why they liked the 540 so much, he said " limps home on 5 just fine"... Of course, they are afloat, not airborne, but it's still nice to see... RR A few months ago people were writing about oil blowby under their planes. I have the problem myself. Have an air/oil seperator but it still blows out. I have let the oil get down to 9 qts and have now let it get to 7.5 and will see if it quits blowing out from here or even down to 6 quarts. Seems like someone wrote theirs leveled off at 6. Seems odd that a 12 quart oil system has to blow down to 6 quarts to level off. Anyone know why this happens? Can it be a cylinder with bad compression creating the blowby? I'll check that next though I don't think any of my cylinders are anywhere near worn. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:33 PM PST US From: Mark Neufeld - HR-2 Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Re: Ron Carter Weaver Mine are forward also. Thanks for the info. Mark N145HR From: Fred Weaver Subject: Rocket-List: Re: Ron Carter Hey Ron.... The link doesn't really go where you wantit to go........ You might try that one again. Thanks, Weav Ron Carter wrote: Forward into the airstream. You might be interested in somestream lined and faired fuel vents and drain covers available ataircraft extras.com Ron Carter HR2 # 149 675 ttsn On 1/31/08, Rocket-List Digest Server wrote: * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Rocket-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below.The .html file includes the Digestformatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation.The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Rocket-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-01-30&Archive=Rocket Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 08-01-30&Archive=Rocket =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Rocket-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/30/08: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:36 PM - Re: Fuel vents(Mark Neufeld - HR-2) ________________________________Message1_____________________________________ Time: 07:36:53 PM PST US From: Mark Neufeld - HR-2 Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Fuel vents Do your fuel vent lines turn forward into the air stream, or are theycut 45* toward the air stream?Would that make a difference? My fist flight, HR II, N145HR, Fox Field, Lancaster, Ca, is about twoweeks away. I'm ready now but my Garmin 330 transponder has an AD which requiresthe unit be sent to Garmin.Turn around is two long weeks.I discovered the ADwhen I inquired about the pitot static sytem check.The AD requirescompliance after the required transponder pitot static system check. FAR 91.205(a) (civil aircraft) require all the equipment in the planeto be operable at the time when the airworthiness certificate is issued?That's theway I understand it.... even AD's?I now about FAR 91.213 approved equiplist, ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:16:01 PM PST US From: Mark Neufeld - HR-2 Subject: Re: Re: Rocket-List: Fuel vents Jim, The Garmin 330 transponder AD is: mandatory, covered under warranty, and required compliance after the biannual pitot static system check. I went to the Garmin web site and pasted the following service notice located in their "Service Alert" file. Today, Garmin is providing a software update (v3.06) for its GTX 330, 330D, 33 and 33D Mode S transponders. The company has issued mandatory service bulletins, requiring aftermarket customers and OEMs to install the v3.06 software on these products. The v3.06 software update supersedes all previous updates related to FAA Airworthiness Directive 2004-10-15, which addresses a potential air-to-air safety issue between GTX 330/330D-equipped aircraft and those installed with various TAS, TCAD and TCAS I equipment. AD 2004-10-15 lists a potential safety issue in which Garmins Mode S transponders may intermittently suppress an air-to-air interrogation from aircraft using certain collision-avoidance systems. While pilots flying with respective Garmin equipment will see nearby aircraft via TIS, it is possible that they may not be visible to certain traffic-awareness systems in nearby aircraft. Garmin equipped aircraft remain appropriately visible within the normal operating range of FAA Terminal and ARTCC RADAR. The AD specifies corrective action, including installation of the software update at a certified repair center. Garmin encourages its customers to contact their avionics dealer or the companys field-service engineering staff with any questions or concerns regarding the AD. From: Jim Stone Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Fuel vents Hey Mark, Tell me more about the 330 AD. Or send me in the right direction. Thanks, Jim Stone Louisville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Neufeld - HR-2" Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:24 PM Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Fuel vents > > > Do your fuel vent lines turn forward into the air stream, or are they cut > 45* toward the air stream? Would that make a difference? > > My fist flight, HR II, N145HR, Fox Field, Lancaster, Ca, is about two > weeks away. I'm ready now but my Garmin 330 transponder has an AD which > requires the unit be sent to Garmin. Turn around is two long weeks. I > discovered the AD when I inquired about the pitot static sytem check. The > AD requires compliance after the required transponder pitot static system > check. > > FAR 91.205(a) (civil aircraft) require all the equipment in the plane to > be operable at the time when the airworthiness certificate is issued? > That's the way I understand it.... even AD's? I now about FAR 91.213 > approved equip list, but that's not applicable. > > Mark Neufeld > > > From: Wernerworld > Date: 2008/01/04 Fri PM 01:00:28 CST > To: rocket-list@matronics.com > Subject: Rocket-List: Fuel vents > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rocket-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Rocket-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rocket-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rocket-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.