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Sat 08/23/08


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     1. 03:27 AM - Re: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash (nico css)
     2. 06:08 AM - Re: airport managers (capmrp)
     3. 08:27 AM - Re: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash (John Cox)
     4. 04:43 PM - Re: North LAS Airport Management (lack of) (Speedy11@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:27:24 AM PST US
    From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
    Subject: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash
    He saw an opportunity to further his career on the back others' misfortune, all right. I hope cooler heads prevail and laugh this fool off the stage. _____ From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Gummo Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:05 PM Subject: Rocket-List: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash Subject: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash I heard about a Velocity crashing into a house and killing the pilot and two people in the house while trying to land at North Las Vegas. It was the flight test period as the plane only had 5 hours of flight time. I went on the Internet to find a little more info. I was shocked to read the comments of the airport director. Quote from the website: http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=8883721 <http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=8883721&nav=168Ye9lq> &nav=168Ye9lq According to Airport Director Randall Walker, this incident is the worst air accident off the airport grounds in Las Vegas history. Now for the first time, Walker is publicly calling for more local control over what aircraft come in and out of airports. Walker says the airport has no control over what aircraft fly in and out -- there hasn't even been a risk assessment for what kind of risks these experimental aircraft may pose. But he says he is going to start lobbying to get Congress to change the law and allow airports to have more control. But again, Randall Walker says that these kinds of aircraft do not belong in urban areas. >From AirNav website: Ownership: Publicly-owned Owner: CLARK COUNTY 2730 AIRPORT DR SUITE 101 NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89030 Phone 702-261-3802 Manager: DOUG MCNEELEY 2730 AIRPORT DR SUITE 101 NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89030 Phone 702-261-3800 MGR. ALSO 702-261-3802. AL KRISCH, MANAGEMENT ANALYST II 702.261.3804 702.647.7508 (FAX) NORTH LAS VEGAS AIRPORT 2730 AIRPORT DRIVE, SUITE 101 NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89032 >From website: <http://www.aci-na.org/about/leadership_walker> http://www.aci-na.org/about/leadership_walker Prior to his appointment as the director of aviation, Walker was assistant county manager for Clark County from 1996 to 1997. As assistant county manager, he oversaw 12 county departments and provided fiscal oversight for District Court, Justice Court, and all of Clark County's elected officials. In 1995, Walker served as director of the county's Department of Finance. **************************************************************************** ******************************** I read the complete bio and there was no indication of any aviation experience. My first question is why do ANTI-AVIATION types, who are not pilots and have no flying experience, rise up to get airport director jobs? For example, the new director of airports for San Bernardino County, CA is not a pilot. My info maybe old, but the Navy had a rule that to command an aircraft carrier, you had to be a pilot. Might make a good rule for airport managers. (Sour grapes alert.) I might have a chip on my shoulder about this. As the manager of Apple Valley, CA (KAPV) airport job because available, I was not given a interview as I didn't have a BA business degree. My Masters Degree in Computer Science and a BS in Chemistry of course, didn't prepare me to run a airport. However, I also have twenty years of military experience as a flight safety officer and Supervisor of Flying. (Enough sour grapes.) Seems to me, we need to get EAA and AOPA on this right away before it gets out of hand. Please write and call anybody you think can help. Tom Gummo Apple Valley, CA Harmon Rocket-II do not archive http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3375 (20080821) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. MATRONICS --> http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 06:08:01 AM PST US
    From: capmrp <capmrp@cfu.net>
    Subject: Re: airport managers
    I'm afraid the main qualification for airport managers these days is the ability to do the bidding of the local city council AND to pull in as many federal funds as possible. Once they get good at those two, they suddenly find themselves qualified to pass judgement on what's good or not, for general aviation at large. Just amazing and just the kind of thing AOPA and EAA love to sink their teeth into. Go git 'em! Mike


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    Time: 08:27:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash
    From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    Just as the airport administrator said, pilots just as he is goint to should contact their local congressional members. NASAO is a group you should all become aware of. These are the bureaucrats nationwide who try to maximize their salary and the funds to their respective airport by restricting selected group of pilot operations. It is ironic that FAM grants and other federal funds are based on take-offs and landings. Without GA, many commercial operation airports would cease to exist because they do not meet the requirement for funds. These are the guys that increase restaurant costs, gasoline costs, rental car costs, parking costs and smile as they take their state mandated holidays each year. His actions will do nothing to reduce accidents. John C From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:26 AM Subject: RE: Rocket-List: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash He saw an opportunity to further his career on the back others' misfortune, all right. I hope cooler heads prevail and laugh this fool off the stage. ________________________________ From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Gummo Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:05 PM Subject: Rocket-List: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash Subject: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash I heard about a Velocity crashing into a house and killing the pilot and two people in the house while trying to land at North Las Vegas. It was the flight test period as the plane only had 5 hours of flight time. I went on the Internet to find a little more info. I was shocked to read the comments of the airport director. Quote from the website: http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=8883721&nav=168Ye9lq According to Airport Director Randall Walker, this incident is the worst air accident off the airport grounds in Las Vegas history. Now for the first time, Walker is publicly calling for more local control over what aircraft come in and out of airports. Walker says the airport has no control over what aircraft fly in and out -- there hasn't even been a risk assessment for what kind of risks these experimental aircraft may pose. But he says he is going to start lobbying to get Congress to change the law and allow airports to have more control. But again, Randall Walker says that these kinds of aircraft do not belong in urban areas. >From AirNav website: Ownership: Publicly-owned Owner: CLARK COUNTY 2730 AIRPORT DR SUITE 101 NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89030 Phone 702-261-3802 Manager: DOUG MCNEELEY 2730 AIRPORT DR SUITE 101 NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89030 Phone 702-261-3800 MGR. ALSO 702-261-3802. AL KRISCH, MANAGEMENT ANALYST II 702.261.3804 702.647.7508 (FAX) NORTH LAS VEGAS AIRPORT 2730 AIRPORT DRIVE, SUITE 101 NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89032 >From website: http://www.aci-na.org/about/leadership_walker <http://www.aci-na.org/about/leadership_walker> Prior to his appointment as the director of aviation, Walker was assistant county manager for Clark County from 1996 to 1997. As assistant county manager, he oversaw 12 county departments and provided fiscal oversight for District Court, Justice Court, and all of Clark County's elected officials. In 1995, Walker served as director of the county's Department of Finance. ************************************************************************ ************************************ I read the complete bio and there was no indication of any aviation experience. My first question is why do ANTI-AVIATION types, who are not pilots and have no flying experience, rise up to get airport director jobs? For example, the new director of airports for San Bernardino County, CA is not a pilot. My info maybe old, but the Navy had a rule that to command an aircraft carrier, you had to be a pilot. Might make a good rule for airport managers. (Sour grapes alert.) I might have a chip on my shoulder about this. As the manager of Apple Valley, CA (KAPV) airport job because available, I was not given a interview as I didn't have a BA business degree. My Masters Degree in Computer Science and a BS in Chemistry of course, didn't prepare me to run a airport. However, I also have twenty years of military experience as a flight safety officer and Supervisor of Flying. (Enough sour grapes.) Seems to me, we need to get EAA and AOPA on this right away before it gets out of hand. Please write and call anybody you think can help. Tom Gummo Apple Valley, CA Harmon Rocket-II do not archive http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3375 (20080821) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Rocket-List --> http://forums.matronics.com -Matt href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c o ntribution ===========


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    Time: 04:43:51 PM PST US
    From: Speedy11@aol.com
    Subject: Re: North LAS Airport Management (lack of)
    Being a pilot does not insure that one has good judgement. It does when it comes to airport management and operation! ALL airport managers should be pilots. Stan Sutterfield **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)




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